Peter Tessier: Control, we have a problem. Jets manage a point but were again outplayed in most aspects of the game against the worst team in the league.

I only have one question.
Does Patrik Laine have a pulse?
He might have the best shot in the league but if you don't work hard to get chances it doesn't matter.
He looks slow, disengaged and looking for someone else to do the dirty work.

I only have one question.
Does Patrik Laine have a pulse?
He might have the best shot in the league but if you don't work hard to get chances it doesn't matter.
He looks slow, disengaged and looking for someone else to do the dirty work.
- Rang

I think there are 5 jets doing similar things. But he is so noticeable, he really is trying but utterly lost with no confidence.

Let’s switch gears and become
Sellers, tear it down and re build. It’s not working.

Or

Let’s ride it out......nope forget it!!! Panic and sell sell sell.

did you all see how great Mark Stone played last night, WOW 1 goal, 1 assist and man what a hell of a way to break up that 2 on 1. Man he would be great on the Jets team, too bad too many are too stupid and don't want to trade "the future" for a younger version of Bergeron when only 4 players on the entire team is over 30.....

Let's not go that far, but don't bury your head in the sand and say the Jets have no problems except Laine's disappearing act.

For instance:

Hellebuyck is 25th in GAA
the penalty kill has fallen to 21st
Jets give up the 4th most shots

Ross, I see the obvious sarcasm.

So the Jets have lost a few more games than usual. Its certainly not panic time. I can attribute these mostly one goal losses to a couple of factors. You'd think we lost the game last night but we did get a point. Considering all the penalties....not horrible.

1) Specialty teams . PP has gone cold ( see #2) . PK has been better has well.
2) Laine has been playing terrible which has really hurt the second line
3) Defense.... injuries to Buff and Kulikov , and Trouba has been very average this season even with Morrisey covering up for him a lot. Overcharge....the bet on your boy is not paying off.

The positives:

The 3rd and 4th lines have been very good. Our top line doesn't really go cold for more than a few games. Buff and Ehlers will be back inside 2 weeks. We will be likely adding a very good player in Stone, or Duchesne, or Skinner very soon.

It's not all gloom and doom. Every team has a rough spell during the season. If we hit March and still are not playing well, then it time to worry .

Don't expect a super stubborn Maurice to make any changes to his line-up, line combos or hockey philosophy. He didn't do it against Vegas in the playoffs and he has shown he will not be told or is just unable to make adjustments. Always out shot and this team with speed and skill just dumps and chases the puck. Frustrating to watch. When Ehlers comes back it would be great to see a line of Ehlers, Laine and Roslovic as all season Laine and Little just don't work together. Unfortunately the Jets have no #2 line and two 4th lines so he flogs Scheifele's line to death. Giving up the future to get a rental would not work as Maurice will take a talented player like Stone or Duchene and force them to play Maurice style hockey that will just frustrate them.

did you all see how great Mark Stone played last night, WOW 1 goal, 1 assist and man what a hell of a way to break up that 2 on 1. Man he would be great on the Jets team, too bad too many are too stupid and don't want to trade "the future" for a younger version of Bergeron when only 4 players on the entire team is over 30.....
- Athrin

Didn’t you hear, we are switching gears and trading wheeler to the sens for their 2020 first, chabot, Tkachuk and Logan Brown.

I think there are 5 jets doing similar things. But he is so noticeable, he really is trying but utterly lost with no confidence.
- Peter.Tessier

I thought Stanbo gifted you guys Marko Dano a few years ago to help when crises of confidence hit.

I just heard that the Senators have held Mark Stone from practice today. I'm sure that will keep the rumor fire going strong. I did believe it would happen before Dorian left Winnipeg today.

I just heard that the Senators have held Mark Stone from practice today. I'm sure that will keep the rumor fire going strong. I did believe it would happen before Dorian left Winnipeg today.
- jetsnation

Very seldom does the team that is leading the conversation to get a specific player ever end up getting the deal done. Winnipeg is merely the rabbit in this dog race. Almost certain discussions with the Jets will set the market and another team will swoop in at the last minute and scoop the final deal.

Dorion will take the deal that includes the best prospect.

Peter, I am very happy that you are starting to point out the ice time. It does appear to me that both Scheifele and Wheeler are beginning to run out of fuel.

The problem with the Jets is not Laine twisting in the wind, or overplaying the top line leading slowly to their death, or the injuries building up. The problem with the Jets is not how bad they’ve been for the last 20 games.

No, the problem with the Jets is all of these things coming together to expose the fact that they’ve been this bad all year. We’re consistenly outshot, outchanced, and outplayed. Top end skill, a hot PP, and strong goaltending have carried us.
Anyway, I’m going to ignore the rampant defensive breakdowns, inability to get the puck out of our end efficiently, complete absence of defensive support from the forwards, and lack of any visible system in place, and just pay attention to the forwards here:

Maurice refuses to break up his same 3 forward pairings (55-26, 18-29, 17-13) which has lead to us getting the bare minimum out of all 6 players involved. They’re all starting to stall out. Scheifele and Wheeler have been below standard for a while now, Little and Laine have never worked, and Lowry and Tanev aren’t doing much of anything at all. Split them all up.

This has also caused a revolving door of LWs in the top 9 failing to develop chemistry with anyone. Connor has either been carried on line 1, or drowning on 2 or 3. Ehlers has been doing everything by himself this season. Perreault is spinning his wheels on line 3 trying to get someone rolling, and it hasn’t worked.

Another unfortunate byproduct of Maurice’s stubbornness is the increased attention on the 4th line. It’s all fun and games now, but they’re gonna get hit with regression like a train hitting a golf cart, and they’ll have way too many eyes in them when it happens. Copp is doing his best work ever carrying that line along, Appleton is hot and cold but looks ready, and Lemieux is riding a frankly sarcastic PDO. This will come back to haunt us, and with Appleton likely heading back to the Moose soon, and Lemieux being Mo’s favourite pet, Copp will be wrongfully blamed in his best NHL season.

They need to try something like this:
Ehlers-Scheifele-Laine
Connor-Copp-Wheeler
Perreault-Lowry-Little
Tanev-Petan-Roslovic

Or, the Stone version (minus Roslovic):
Laine-Scheifele-Stone
Connor-Lowry-Wheeler
Perreault-Little-Ehlers
Petan-Copp-Tanev

Very seldom does the team that is leading the conversation to get a specific player ever end up getting the deal done. Winnipeg is merely the rabbit in this dog race. Almost certain discussions with the Jets will set the market and another team will swoop in at the last minute and scoop the final deal.

Dorion will take the deal that includes the best prospect.
- spatso

Spatso, there is a big difference here. Dorian and crew has spent the better part of a week in Winnipeg scouting both the Jets and the Manitoba Moose. Jets have had their scouts doing the same. The Jets team have also been in Ottawa and Ottawa in Winnipeg. This all leads to a lot of interaction and backroom meetings. Stone is also a Winnipegger and as such I'm pretty sure he would love to lead the Jets to the promised land. I'm sure there have been some type of informal discussions by Chevy through Dorian with Stone, and his desires to sign in Winnipeg because it would add more value to whatever deal Dorian strikes.

It all adds up to more than just being a "rabbit in a dog race". Dorian needs to act soon as an injury to Stone could be very very costly. There is only a week to go here. expect something shortly. I'm sure Chevy has told Dorian that if he doesnt want to do a deal by the end of this weekend that he will move to getting a deal done with other teams for the likes of Skinner or Panarin. There is deal tension here by both sides to act very soon.

Let’s switch gears and become
Sellers, tear it down and re build. It’s not working.

Or

Let’s ride it out......nope forget it!!! Panic and sell sell sell.
- Ross77

Who is saying anything about selling?

Let's not forget that it was Maurice's idea to have Laine flip wings when Ehlers got hurt.

Conner has 3 assists in his last 8 eight games and Laine has no confidence, isn't time for Maurice to be a coach and go to Laine and say "here's your one chance, hop over the boards every time Sheifele does and show me something."

Who is saying anything about selling?
- Peter.Tessier

I’m starting it, for pure poops and giggles, what else can I do for three days now?

Spatso, there is a big difference here. Dorian and crew has spent the better part of a week in Winnipeg scouting both the Jets and the Manitoba Moose. Jets have had their scouts doing the same. The Jets team have also been in Ottawa and Ottawa in Winnipeg. This all leads to a lot of interaction and backroom meetings. Stone is also a Winnipegger and as such I'm pretty sure he would love to lead the Jets to the promised land. I'm sure there have been some type of informal discussions by Chevy through Dorian with Stone, and his desires to sign in Winnipeg because it would add more value to whatever deal Dorian strikes.

It all adds up to more than just being a "rabbit in a dog race". Dorian needs to act soon as an injury to Stone could be very very costly. There is only a week to go here. expect something shortly. I'm sure Chevy has told Dorian that if he doesnt want to do a deal by the end of this weekend that he will move to getting a deal done with other teams for the likes of Skinner or Panarin. There is deal tension here by both sides to act very soon.
- jetsnation

1) possible that happened,

2) more importantly Yes,as a good business person, Chevy likley told Dorian that he would only be held ransom till a certain date, other wise its on to plan B.

Spatso, there is a big difference here. Dorian and crew has spent the better part of a week in Winnipeg scouting both the Jets and the Manitoba Moose. Jets have had their scouts doing the same. The Jets team have also been in Ottawa and Ottawa in Winnipeg. This all leads to a lot of interaction and backroom meetings. Stone is also a Winnipegger and as such I'm pretty sure he would love to lead the Jets to the promised land. I'm sure there have been some type of informal discussions by Chevy through Dorian with Stone, and his desires to sign in Winnipeg because it would add more value to whatever deal Dorian strikes.

It all adds up to more than just being a "rabbit in a dog race". Dorian needs to act soon as an injury to Stone could be very very costly. There is only a week to go here. expect something shortly. I'm sure Chevy has told Dorian that if he doesnt want to do a deal by the end of this weekend that he will move to getting a deal done with other teams for the likes of Skinner or Panarin. There is deal tension here by both sides to act very soon.
- jetsnation

Dorian is at the Moose game right now, Chippy is there to.

1) possible that happened,

2) more importantly Yes,as a good business person, Chevy likley told Dorian that he would only be held ransom till a certain date, other wise its on to plan B.
- CharlieDog

Yes. And the Jets have also been very fortunate in the way their schedule has been coming into the trade deadline. We have had both the Rangers and Blue Jackets in here recently so Chevy has had a chance to have in-person one-on-one discussions with Gorton and Kokalainen as well. The Jets are loaded with talent and prospects that has many relevant GM's drooling. Chevy no idiot when it comes to creating deal tension. I'm certain Dorian will act soon or we move on.

Peter Tessier: Control, we have a problem.
Jets manage a point but were again outplayed in most aspects of the game against the worst team in the league.
- Peter.Tessier

Lets forcus on the possitives!

Laine can only go up from here. He is terrible and has hopefully severly damaged his signing value going forward

Ras and Meyers have been surprising good during this slump

Trouba has also shown a clear lacking hockey IQ and hopefully has proven to be closer to the 6M dollar range should he resign with the Jets. His 8M asking is an absolute joke given what he brings.

Scheiffs is on his A game, and Buff will be rested and ready to be his usual physical force come playoffs. Ehlers as well, he was absolutely buzzing when he got injured.

This team has nowhere to go but up, and the injured players are not being rushed back. Gonna be rested players on the upswing come playoffs.

Lets forcus on the possitives!

Laine can only go up from here. He is terrible and has hopefully severly damaged his signing value going forward

Ras and Meyers have been surprising good during this slump

Trouba has also shown a clear lacking hockey IQ and hopefully has proven to be closer to the 6M dollar range should he resign with the Jets. His 8M asking is an absolute joke given what he brings.

Scheiffs is on his A game, and Buff will be rested and ready to be his usual physical force come playoffs. Ehlers as well, he was absolutely buzzing when he got injured.

This team has nowhere to go but up, and the injured players are not being rushed back. Gonna be rested players on the upswing come playoffs.
- bikeguy99

Yes. If the Jets were a stock then I'd be buying the dip.

The problem with the Jets is not Laine twisting in the wind, or overplaying the top line leading slowly to their death, or the injuries building up. The problem with the Jets is not how bad they’ve been for the last 20 games.

No, the problem with the Jets is all of these things coming together to expose the fact that they’ve been this bad all year. We’re consistenly outshot, outchanced, and outplayed. Top end skill, a hot PP, and strong goaltending have carried us.
Anyway, I’m going to ignore the rampant defensive breakdowns, inability to get the puck out of our end efficiently, complete absence of defensive support from the forwards, and lack of any visible system in place, and just pay attention to the forwards here:

Maurice refuses to break up his same 3 forward pairings (55-26, 18-29, 17-13) which has lead to us getting the bare minimum out of all 6 players involved. They’re all starting to stall out. Scheifele and Wheeler have been below standard for a while now, Little and Laine have never worked, and Lowry and Tanev aren’t doing much of anything at all. Split them all up.

This has also caused a revolving door of LWs in the top 9 failing to develop chemistry with anyone. Connor has either been carried on line 1, or drowning on 2 or 3. Ehlers has been doing everything by himself this season. Perreault is spinning his wheels on line 3 trying to get someone rolling, and it hasn’t worked.

Another unfortunate byproduct of Maurice’s stubbornness is the increased attention on the 4th line. It’s all fun and games now, but they’re gonna get hit with regression like a train hitting a golf cart, and they’ll have way too many eyes in them when it happens. Copp is doing his best work ever carrying that line along, Appleton is hot and cold but looks ready, and Lemieux is riding a frankly sarcastic PDO. This will come back to haunt us, and with Appleton likely heading back to the Moose soon, and Lemieux being Mo’s favourite pet, Copp will be wrongfully blamed in his best NHL season.

They need to try something like this:
Ehlers-Scheifele-Laine
Connor-Copp-Wheeler
Perreault-Lowry-Little
Tanev-Petan-Roslovic

Or, the Stone version (minus Roslovic):
Laine-Scheifele-Stone
Connor-Lowry-Wheeler
Perreault-Little-Ehlers
Petan-Copp-Tanev
- Rexypoo

if the jets want to keep Stone, letting him go to FA would be the dumbest thing a GM could even do and not even anything Chiarelli did would compare even come close to be as bad as letting Stone walk after trading for him, Connor or Ehlers would need to be in the deal as the Jets will not have the cap to keep Trouba/Myers, Laine, Connor and ehlers with Wheeler getting his raise.

Petan over Appleton and/or Lemieux ?
Ha ha ha !