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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 11 @ 3:51 PM ET
LW: M Tkachuk, Ovi, Gaudreau, Tatar

C: Point, Larkin, Guentzel, MacKinnon

RW: DeBrincat, Laine, Meier, Rantanen

D: Dahlin, Carlson, Rielly, Burns, Letang, Giordano

G: Vasy, Desmith

Can't say I put any thought into this week though.

- Feds91Stammer


I had a similar lineup originally
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 11 @ 3:51 PM ET
That was my point...not the loss of a conditional pick, although it's weird as it appears to be the Penguins helping out CBJ. Maybe GMJR traded JJ, and our 1st to anyone for a 6th! (fingers crossed)
- iworkatinitech


I don't think Prow has much value, but maybe he's a part of a package deal?
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Feb 11 @ 3:52 PM ET
Ok, call me crazy, but why not try to build a super line and then let the rest fall where they may. It's obvious that changes are needed and with two of the best elite forwards in the world, you (the Pens coach) have the luxury of experimenting around. So, put Malkin, Crosby, and Guentzel on the same line. Or Malkin - Crosby - Kessel if that works. Either one of those lines would create nightmares for opponents.

I get the need to spread the wealth around and keep Sid and Geno on different lines. But sometimes you gotta stack one mega-line and roll with that if nothing else is working.

The Lightning have been trying to keep Stamkos and Kucherov separated. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I'd like to see the Bolts do what I suggested the Pens do - overload a line. Put Point-Stamkos-Kucherov on a line and see what happens.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 11 @ 3:54 PM ET
Ok, call me crazy, but why not try to build a super line and then let the rest fall where they may. It's obvious that changes are needed and with two of the best elite forwards in the world, you (the Pens coach) have the luxury of experimenting around. So, put Malkin, Crosby, and Guentzel on the same line. Or Malkin - Crosby - Kessel if that works. Either one of those lines would create nightmares for opponents.

I get the need to spread the wealth around and keep Sid and Geno on different lines. But sometimes you gotta stack one mega-line and roll with that if nothing else is working.

The Lightning have been trying to keep Stamkos and Kucherov separated. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I'd like to see the Bolts do what I suggested the Pens do - overload a line. Put Point-Stamkos-Kucherov on a line and see what happens.

- GalacticStone


The Penguins defense isn't good enough to do this. What happens if the Pens load up is the bottom six will be weak and easy to play against, and the defense isn't good enough to make up for it.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 11 @ 3:58 PM ET
Ok, call me crazy, but why not try to build a super line and then let the rest fall where they may. It's obvious that changes are needed and with two of the best elite forwards in the world, you (the Pens coach) have the luxury of experimenting around. So, put Malkin, Crosby, and Guentzel on the same line. Or Malkin - Crosby - Kessel if that works. Either one of those lines would create nightmares for opponents.

I get the need to spread the wealth around and keep Sid and Geno on different lines. But sometimes you gotta stack one mega-line and roll with that if nothing else is working.

The Lightning have been trying to keep Stamkos and Kucherov separated. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I'd like to see the Bolts do what I suggested the Pens do - overload a line. Put Point-Stamkos-Kucherov on a line and see what happens.

- GalacticStone

LOL stop. Log off for the day.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Feb 11 @ 4:01 PM ET
LOL stop. Log off for the day.
- Feds91Stammer

But, if I do that, who will give me precious validation that I sorely require?
Yonk1216
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Scranton, PA
Joined: 02.24.2011

Feb 11 @ 4:03 PM ET
I don't think Prow has much value, but maybe he's a part of a package deal?
- madmike71


I don't understand why Prow hasn't gotten at least a look with Schultz out....

He's a right handed defenseman and has 15 goals this season so far...... even if he can't play a lick of defense he's still able to play on his natural side and maybe actually contribute on the 2nd PP unit.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 11 @ 4:06 PM ET
I don't understand why Prow hasn't gotten at least a look with Schultz out....

He's a right handed defenseman and has 15 goals this season so far...... even if he can't play a lick of defense he's still able to play on his natural side and maybe actually contribute on the 2nd PP unit.

- Yonk1216


Nobody understands what they're trying to accomplish on D. Unless they're trying to miss the playoffs. If that's the goal, it's a great plan.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 11 @ 4:20 PM ET
I don't understand why Prow hasn't gotten at least a look with Schultz out....

He's a right handed defenseman and has 15 goals this season so far...... even if he can't play a lick of defense he's still able to play on his natural side and maybe actually contribute on the 2nd PP unit.

- Yonk1216


Probably below average skating...

regardless... I actually think we should have been playing Ruhwedel
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 11 @ 4:38 PM ET
Probably below average skating...

regardless... I actually think we should have been playing Ruhwedel

- YouMeAndDupuis9


I’d actually be curious to see Pettersson and Ruhwedel. They’re both two players who aren’t flashy and do their jobs.
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Feb 11 @ 4:40 PM ET
I’d actually be curious to see Pettersson and Ruhwedel. They’re both two players who aren’t flashy and do their jobs.
- Rinosaur

That would be a 3rd pair I would actually feel somewhat comfortable with...so long as JJ isn't in the top 4.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 11 @ 4:56 PM ET
regarding Ottawa:


@travisyost
1h1 hour ago
There are just fascinating cap implications if this happens. They need to take on big money to even hit the cap floor next year.


GMJR: hey Mr. Dorion, I'm willing to part with one of our "core" defenseman in order to help you reach the cap floor. 1st round draft pick, lots of character, and signed for 4 more years! I'll take Dzingel off your hands as well.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 11 @ 5:18 PM ET
regarding Ottawa:


@travisyost
1h1 hour ago
There are just fascinating cap implications if this happens. They need to take on big money to even hit the cap floor next year.


GMJR: hey Mr. Dorion, I'm willing to part with one of our "core" defenseman in order to help you reach the cap floor. 1st round draft pick, lots of character, and signed for 4 more years! I'll take Dzingel off your hands as well.

- YouMeAndDupuis9



That is a legit good scenario for us... ignoring that we'd get anything useful back
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Feb 11 @ 5:22 PM ET
People have a tendency to allow elite hockey players (Sid, Geno, Kessel, Kucherov, etc.) to skew their perception of what normal top 6 production is. There’s just not enough pucks to go around that’s going to have every player on a teams top 6 be 60+ point players, especially when said top 6 players aren’t getting any significant PP time.
- j.boyd919

Had no idea Simon's stats were that high. I have only watched probably 50% of pens games this season, always seems like he does nothing besides get in good position and then do nothing with the puck haha. misanalysis on my part.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 11 @ 5:24 PM ET
Had no idea Simon's stats were that high. I have only watched probably 50% of pens games this season, always seems like he does nothing besides get in good position and then do nothing with the puck haha. misanalysis on my part.
- SuperHenderson13



Malkin's slump has made him look diminished
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 11 @ 5:31 PM ET
Had no idea Simon's stats were that high. I have only watched probably 50% of pens games this season, always seems like he does nothing besides get in good position and then do nothing with the puck haha. misanalysis on my part.
- SuperHenderson13

You’re not the only one. The last time we had this debate on here, I did some digging and found that Simon was also like second on the team with primary assists, so it’s not like he’s a passanger and inflating his stats with secondary apples.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 11 @ 5:39 PM ET
Had no idea Simon's stats were that high. I have only watched probably 50% of pens games this season, always seems like he does nothing besides get in good position and then do nothing with the puck haha. misanalysis on my part.
- SuperHenderson13


Hahah they wasn’t directly specifically at you by any means. I think they a lot of people have skewed perceptions on what top 6 production is because of the studs around the league. “If you’re not producing like Kuch, you’re not top 6.” I literally had a lightning fan tell me that once here in hockeybuzz. I like that article I linked in my reply because it actually has a good list of what production rates are for forwards on each line. It’s a little dated but scoring hasn’t changed that much since the article was written so it’s still relevant.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 11 @ 5:54 PM ET
What else does he need to be before you like him?
- MattStrat

You know, score points lol. He very inconsistent on that front and why he should be on the third line.
Edit: actually he's just in a slump I think one assist in his last 10? IDK the whole team sucks lol
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 11 @ 6:04 PM ET
I was listening to Madden on the way home and he was actually talking about Simon and he said it seems like Simon gets a lot of slack to stay mostly in the top 6 and Blueger gets scratched.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 11 @ 6:08 PM ET
I was listening to Madden on the way home and he was actually talking about Simon and he said it seems like Simon gets a lot of slack to stay mostly in the top 6 and Blueger gets scratched.
- 668710



He did have a huge slump, and still gets top/mid 6 time... but that entire mid 6 has slumped... soooo... hes not the only one. Teddy is getting the Cullen treatment, so Madden is a dumbass. Those are fully different situations.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 11 @ 6:14 PM ET
I was listening to Madden on the way home and he was actually talking about Simon and he said it seems like Simon gets a lot of slack to stay mostly in the top 6 and Blueger gets scratched.
- 668710

If I’m a Blueger stan, I would be pointing the finger at Cullen, not Simon.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 11 @ 6:50 PM ET
#firesullivan
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 11 @ 7:00 PM ET
#firesullivan
- Rinosaur

Haha, that may need to happen. Call coach Q
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Feb 11 @ 7:07 PM ET
an "angry" sidney crosby. ok. im predicting a yuge win tonite. Rust with game winner.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 11 @ 7:07 PM ET
If I’m a Blueger stan, I would be pointing the finger at Cullen, not Simon.
- Victoro311

I think he was talking about the young guys though. Because we all know Cullen isn't going anywhere.
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