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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Feb 1 @ 9:48 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Schenn will the Penguins make their move for a third line center? Schenn will the Penguins make their move for a third line center?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 1 @ 9:57 AM ET
I’m tired of people not giving Johnson a real chance. He’s only half way through his first season. Give him a chance to settle in.
LeafsPain54
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 05.24.2017

Feb 1 @ 10:00 AM ET
Article about Schenn....Wilson still finds a way to cry about Jack Johnson. Never fails.
Yeah Boyes
St Louis Blues
Location: Ekland, MO
Joined: 04.20.2009

Feb 1 @ 10:02 AM ET
The Blues missed the playoffs the year they traded Stastny. Schenn is available but he won't come cheap.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 1 @ 10:04 AM ET
Article about Schenn....Wilson still finds a way to cry about Jack Johnson. Never fails.
- LeafsPain54


I believe the reason he's pointing it out is the Pens could have signed a similar player for much less money giving them more cap flexibility to make a bigger move at the trade deadline.

Wilson has been pretty terrible this year as a blogger, but I have to think any team that signed Johnson would have had the same amount of whining lol
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 1 @ 10:07 AM ET
The Blues missed the playoffs the year they traded Stastny. Schenn is available but he won't come cheap.
- Yeah Boyes


It's funny, the last few years I thought you guys were overrated by so many people and overachieved, but this year I actually picked you guys fighting for top three in the division. On paper I thought you guys finally had the the all-around depth you were lacking to deeper in the playoffs.

Shows how much I know
usmcaaron
Season Ticket Holder
St Louis Blues
Location: United States, MO
Joined: 05.20.2008

Feb 1 @ 10:08 AM ET
So, by these calculations, teams looking to acquire Schenn should see a player just not getting the bounces per se, so they should take advantage of the Blues and "buy-low". But if other teams can pick up on it, but why wouldn't the Blues?  That's flawed logic. It's not like other teams can see something St. Louis doesn't.

DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Feb 1 @ 10:09 AM ET
At this point it's looking like pens might just have to hold onto brassy and hope he lights up it in the last third and playoffs
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 1 @ 10:12 AM ET
At this point it's looking like pens might just have to hold onto brassy and hope he lights up it in the last third and playoffs
- DeflatedPucks


There's no way teams are apprehensive about adding a guy like him at his price. I think plenty of teams realize it's more of a "team fit" issue. I have to wonder if the reason Rutherford hasn't moved Brass yet is not so much that he can't, but maybe he's more concerned about replacing him.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 1 @ 10:14 AM ET
So, by these calculations, teams looking to acquire Schenn should see a player just not getting the bounces per se, so they should take advantage of the Blues and "buy-low". But if other teams can pick up on it, but why wouldn't the Blues?  That's flawed logic. It's not like other teams can see something St. Louis doesn't.
- usmcaaron


Never underestimate the ability of teams to misuse a player, but overall I agree with your sentiment.

I don't think Schenn will come cheap, nor should he. He should be able to garner very solid futures from any current contender who'd look to pick him up.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 1 @ 10:21 AM ET
I still think Bozak is a great fit for the Pens. If the Pens could offer a package where STL retained around 25% I would do it.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 1 @ 10:23 AM ET
I just don't like that guy. I hope they go in another direction. I don't want to see the Pens empty what little assets we have. Trade picks....sure.

If we're trading prospects, get a decent RHD. Trade Brass for a pick or middle 6 wing. Let Sheahan take the 3C spot.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 1 @ 10:24 AM ET
I just don't like that guy. I hope they go in another direction. I don't want to see the Pens empty what little assets we have. Trade picks....sure.

If we're trading prospects, get a decent RHD. Trade Brass for a pick or middle 6 wing. Let Sheahan take the 3C spot.

- madmike71


Pens are done d-hunting. I gave up on that dream a while ago lol

YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 1 @ 10:25 AM ET
It depends what the Blues are looking for. Yes another team can offer more in futures, but the Pens could be the only team giving them a 2C back. For example, if the trade were Brassard + 1st (for example), I think that's more appealing than another team giving up a 1st and a prospect or something...

I'm also a big believer that Brassard, for whatever reason, is a poor fit here. Once he plays for his next team he will be back to 2C, two-way, pain in the ass to play against, big game Brass.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 1 @ 10:29 AM ET
It depends what the Blues are looking for. Yes another team can offer more in futures, but the Pens could be the only team giving them a 2C back. For example, if the trade were Brassard + 1st (for example), I think that's more appealing than another team giving up a 1st and a prospect or something...

I'm also a big believer that Brassard, for whatever reason, is a poor fit here. Once he plays for his next team he will be back to 2C, two-way, pain in the ass to play against, big game Brass.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


As Wilson pointed out, teams aren't so excited about late 1st round picks. As it stands right now, it's more than possible the Pens make the playoffs while still picking the middle of the 1st round.

All this said, the Pens would need to sweeten the pot. Brass + 1st is basically just a first because you have no idea if he'd re-sign there. It would probably take Bras, a 1st and one of Addison, Hallander or Borqvist. I like Schenn, but personally I think that's too much for the Pens do give.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 1 @ 10:30 AM ET
I still think Bozak is a great fit for the Pens. If the Pens could offer a package where STL retained around 25% I would do it.
- Rinosaur


I dont think he's worth $5M. And paying a premium for salary retention can bite you in the ass. But there's definitely a lot of value in knowing he has great chemistry with Phil.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 1 @ 10:32 AM ET
I dont think he's worth $5M. And paying a premium for salary retention can bite you in the ass. But there's definitely a lot of value in knowing he has great chemistry with Phil.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Sending a 1st for any player at the deadline can bite you in the ass. Bozak is having a solid year. His production has dipped, but looking at his some of his underlying stats he's still playing well.

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Feb 1 @ 10:33 AM ET
Haydn Fleury sent down after being recalled yesterday.

Justin Williams missing from practice today.


....WHAT DID YOU DO?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 1 @ 10:34 AM ET
Ive been talking about Schenn for 3C for a while...get it done* GMJR


*I see no way of him getting this done without losing someone of importance which in turn could negatively impact the team overall...
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 1 @ 10:38 AM ET
So, by these calculations, teams looking to acquire Schenn should see a player just not getting the bounces per se, so they should take advantage of the Blues and "buy-low". But if other teams can pick up on it, but why wouldn't the Blues?  That's flawed logic. It's not like other teams can see something St. Louis doesn't.
- usmcaaron



All depends on the competence of a team's GM, really.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Feb 1 @ 10:38 AM ET
Article about Schenn....Wilson still finds a way to cry about Jack Johnson. Never fails.


^Yeah, it's almost as if having Johnson on the roster somehow effects getting Schenn. Ya weirdo.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 1 @ 10:39 AM ET
I still think Bozak is a great fit for the Pens. If the Pens could offer a package where STL retained around 25% I would do it.
- Rinosaur

Contract is terrible even at 25% retained.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 1 @ 10:39 AM ET
Haydn Fleury sent down after being recalled yesterday.

Justin Williams missing from practice today.


....WHAT DID YOU DO?

- BINGO!


Probably Jack Johnson's fault
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 1 @ 10:40 AM ET
Article about Schenn....Wilson still finds a way to cry about Jack Johnson. Never fails.


^Yeah, it's almost as if having Johnson on the roster somehow effects getting Schenn. Ya weirdo.

- Blackstrom2

Gotta give JJ more time. He is still settling in with PIT.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Feb 1 @ 10:40 AM ET
Probably Jack Johnson's fault
- YouMeAndDupuis9


He was drafted by them, seems plausible.
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