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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Jan 28 @ 6:50 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 1/28/19 vs. WPG
hereticpride
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 28 @ 7:52 AM ET
Weise situation is just bizarre. Wonder if there was a trade in place and it fell apart at the last minute?

Hart will really be tested against this Jets squad. I'm eager to see how he manages in this one.
MBFlyerfan
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All Lives Matter, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 28 @ 7:56 AM ET
I see an Orange Logo. It been so long.

Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Jan 28 @ 8:01 AM ET
I see an Orange Logo. It been so long.
- MBFlyerfan

The long cold winter of our discontent has come to an end.
MBFlyerfan
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All Lives Matter, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 28 @ 8:03 AM ET
Flyers captain Claude Giroux, who scored a goal and an assist for victorious Team Metro in the 2019 NHL Star Game on Saturday night, was not back from San Jose in time for Sunday's afternoon practice in Voorhees. As such, 13th forward Jori Lehterä stood in on Giroux's line at practice in order for the other lines to remain intact.



Frankly I'm amazed we didn't have a rash of posts about how stupid Gordon and Fletcher are for trading Giroux or scratching him in favor of Lehtera something something.....
jsh139
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly 'burbs, PA
Joined: 06.22.2017

Jan 28 @ 8:21 AM ET
Will Weise actually report to the Phantoms or is he still being told to stay home?
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 28 @ 8:27 AM ET
Game Day!

Going to be a tough one tonight.
MBFlyerfan
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All Lives Matter, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 28 @ 8:28 AM ET
Will Weise actually report to the Phantoms or is he still being told to stay home?
- jsh139




Now that he has been officially assigned, I doubt they are still telling him to stay home.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 8:33 AM ET
Will Weise actually report to the Phantoms or is he still being told to stay home?
- jsh139



he will kill any chance of getting traded if he does not, career suicide that is already on life support.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 8:52 AM ET
he will kill any chance of getting traded if he does not, career suicide that is already on life support.
- wcorvette


Honestly, I didn't understand those who thought he was going to be traded in a matter of days when he was waived. Just ride out the contract. Send him to the AHL again next season or keep his as a depth forward.
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 8:54 AM ET
Honestly, I didn't understand those who thought he was going to be traded in a matter of days when he was waived. Just ride out the contract. Send him to the AHL again next season or keep his as a depth forward.
- MJL



agreed, I think they are going to save as much on the cap as they would have in a trade with retained salary.

plus, cap is not an issue next season
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 28 @ 9:01 AM ET
Unrelated (mostly), but if it THEORECTICALLY didn't involve top young players/prospects, and was just vets/picks (Voracek and 1st as main components), would you trade for Shea Weber since, after this season, there are no cap recapture penalties against anyone but Nashville? Dude may not be 2011 Shea Weber, but he's still a top RHD...for how long is the question.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 28 @ 9:02 AM ET
Honestly, I didn't understand those who thought he was going to be traded in a matter of days when he was waived. Just ride out the contract. Send him to the AHL again next season or keep his as a depth forward.
- MJL


Probably had something to do with multiple article headlines stating weise was told to stay home and wait for a trade.

He has negative value imo and I guess the flyers had that confirmed. I’m not sending a pick away to be rid of him either
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buh bye NJ, hello Florida!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 28 @ 9:02 AM ET
No Buff at least, that bodes well for the health of our forwards
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buh bye NJ, hello Florida!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 28 @ 9:03 AM ET
The long cold winter of our discontent has come to an end.
- Shrike


Well...kinda, sorta.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buh bye NJ, hello Florida!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 28 @ 9:06 AM ET
Unrelated (mostly), but if it THEORECTICALLY didn't involve top young players/prospects, and was just vets/picks (Voracek and 1st as main components), would you trade for Shea Weber since, after this season, there are no cap recapture penalties against anyone but Nashville? Dude may not be 2011 Shea Weber, but he's still a top RHD...for how long is the question.
- jmatchett383


I'm not parting with what will almost certainly be a top ten pick for Weber. He's been injured a lot the last couple of years and his play could quickly drop off a cliff the next couple of years.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 28 @ 9:06 AM ET
Just for fun: Here is a list of the top 5 picks from 2014-2017. How would you rate them overall 1-20? I think #1 and #2 are pretty easy (Dal Colle and Strome, respectively), but just curious how some players like Ekblad and Dubois would stack up.

Aaron Ekblad
Sam Reinhart
Leon Draisaitl
Sam Bennett
Michael Dal Colle

Connor McDavid
Jack Eichel
Dylan Strome
Mitchell Marner
Noah Hanifin

Auston Matthews
Patrik Laine
Pierre-Luc Dubois
Jesse Puljujarvi
Olli Juolevi

Nico Hischier
Nolan Patrick
Miro Heiskanen
Cale Makar
Elias Pettersson
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 28 @ 9:07 AM ET
I'm not parting with what will almost certainly be a top ten pick for Weber. He's been injured a lot the last couple of years and his play could quickly drop off a cliff the next couple of years.
- BiggE


What if it was a 2020 1st?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 9:11 AM ET
Probably had something to do with multiple article headlines stating weise was told to stay home and wait for a trade.

He has negative value imo and I guess the flyers had that confirmed. I’m not sending a pick away to be rid of him either

- Just5



A player being told that and a trade being imminent, are two completely different things.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buh bye NJ, hello Florida!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 28 @ 9:11 AM ET
What if it was a 2020 1st?
- jmatchett383


Maybe, but Voracek, with all his faults, is still a lot to give up for a guy whose best days are clearly behind him.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 28 @ 9:13 AM ET
Maybe, but Voracek, with all his faults, is still a lot to give up for a guy whose best days are clearly behind him.
- BiggE


Fair enough. Just trying to make the cap hit work, and Voracek is the one who fits the bill best.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 28 @ 9:16 AM ET
@ Jmatch, I wouldn't do it. He has 7 seasons left on that contract and like someone said earlier he has not had a healthy season in some time. As good as he is, he's just too old/injury prone at this point. The only way it can be justified would be if we won a cup in his first 3 years while he still has some game left but idk if we are that close.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: It don't matter where you from, it's where you at
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 28 @ 9:19 AM ET
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: It don't matter where you from, it's where you at
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 28 @ 9:20 AM ET
Unrelated (mostly), but if it THEORECTICALLY didn't involve top young players/prospects, and was just vets/picks (Voracek and 1st as main components), would you trade for Shea Weber since, after this season, there are no cap recapture penalties against anyone but Nashville? Dude may not be 2011 Shea Weber, but he's still a top RHD...for how long is the question.
- jmatchett383


Not for Voracek, but make it JvR and I'll take him to the airport and wait for Weber's plane to arrive.
meduser
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: BC
Joined: 06.23.2012

Jan 28 @ 9:22 AM ET
Aaron Ekblad
Sam Reinhart
Leon Draisaitl
Sam Bennett
Michael Dal Colle

Connor McDavid
Jack Eichel
Dylan Strome
Mitchell Marner
Noah Hanifin

Auston Matthews
Patrik Laine
Pierre-Luc Dubois
Jesse Puljujarvi
Olli Juolevi

Nico Hischier
Nolan Patrick
Miro Heiskanen
Cale Makar
Elias Pettersson


McDavid
Matthews
Eichel
Marner
Laine
Draisaitl
Petterson
Dubois
Ekblad
Hischier
Reinhart
Hanifin
Bennett
Patrick
Heiskanen
Puljujarvi
Strome
Dal Colle
Makar
Juolevi
That's how I would list them.
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