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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 12 @ 2:29 AM ET
Not if he's on a line with Eichel and Skinner, or they need another 3 minutes of ice time. They've taken him off the net front on the PP to play him below the goal line, he's now making the pass to the tap in goal. I'm fine with his career shattering points pace he's on so far. Everything staying the same he'll finish just 2 or 3? shy of his career average in goals.
- Wetbandit1


Some ppl only trash players that are actually good for some reason

I’m baffled
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Suck it, Beady - Ancient Hockeybuzz proverb
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jan 12 @ 7:46 AM ET
Some ppl only trash players that are actually good for some reason

I’m baffled

- jdfitz77

No one trashed him you (frank)ing wank
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 12 @ 7:56 AM ET
No one trashed him you (frank)ing wank
- BeadyEyedDouche


I chuckled.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't know how to edit my Location, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 12 @ 8:47 AM ET
American teams win it, but the cup spends more time in Canada each year during the summer then anywhere else. I never understood this argument. American teams would never see a cup if all the Canadians played within our countries borders.
- Pegullaville


Another reason for a Northern Wall!
FUND AND BUILD THE WALL

To which the construction workers should all have to listen to The Wall CD during construction.
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 12 @ 9:00 AM ET
Another reason for a Northern Wall!
FUND AND BUILD THE WALL

To which the construction workers should all have to listen to The Wall CD during construction.
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

- IonSabres


Ok well we’ll take our sport with us then You guys can keep Bettman though.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jan 12 @ 9:09 AM ET
No one trashed him you (frank)ing wank
- BeadyEyedDouche


mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jan 12 @ 9:11 AM ET
I'm afraid to look at the standings.

And the Amerks got throttled last night. Good post Schultzie on the game.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't know how to edit my Location, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 12 @ 9:30 AM ET
Ok well we’ll take our sport with us then You guys can keep Bettman though.
- Pegullaville

Nah, we love our Canadian neighbors...well, I mean until playoff time
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 12 @ 9:43 AM ET
Nah, we love our Canadian neighbors...well, I mean until playoff time
- IonSabres


Apart from the time the Broncos ran Jason Elam on to the field to kick a field goal with no time outs and almost no time remaining to beat the Bills in Buffalo like 10 years ago I’ve always had peaceful interactions with Americans haha.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't know how to edit my Location, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 12 @ 10:15 AM ET
Interesting decision upcoming for JBotts concerning what to do for a 2C.
It is a position we all agree is lacking on this team to drive secondary scoring the team obviously is in need of.
He has stated he prefers younger players with term...so a hockey trade.
However,
- do the Sabres have the assets to acquire a higher end producer, say someone of say a RNH caliber?
- the are not a ton of options available for a 25-35-60 producer with 2 -3 years left
- is it the best strategy for a limited roster to be dealing valuable assets?
- probably costs a 1st, A-Prospect, Roster Player

Another option is to leverage the upcoming UFA market.
Questions for this option are
- will current market conditions drive the Cap hit too high?
- does the longer term of a new contract negatively impact Mitt's assention to 2C
- is C the best position to invest heavily in NOW given the pipeline of Mitts, Asplund, Davidsson

Here are a couple of suitable UFA options to consider, admittedly higher-end producers, but expected production 60+pts:
- Kevin Hayes, 26, 0.85PPG
- Matt Duchane, 27, 1.14PPG
- Brock Nelson, 26, 0.69PPG
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 12 @ 10:38 AM ET
Interesting decision upcoming for JBotts concerning what to do for a 2C.
It is a position we all agree is lacking on this team to drive secondary scoring the team obviously is in need of.
He has stated he prefers younger players with term...so a hockey trade.
However,
- do the Sabres have the assets to acquire a higher end producer, say someone of say a RNH caliber?
- the are not a ton of options available for a 25-35-60 producer with 2 -3 years left
- is it the best strategy for a limited roster to be dealing valuable assets?
- probably costs a 1st, A-Prospect, Roster Player

Another option is to leverage the upcoming UFA market.
Questions for this option are
- will current market conditions drive the Cap hit too high?
- does the longer term of a new contract negatively impact Mitt's assention to 2C
- is C the best position to invest heavily in NOW given the pipeline of Mitts, Asplund, Davidsson

Here are a couple of suitable UFA options to consider, admittedly higher-end producers, but expected production 60+pts:
- Kevin Hayes, 26, 0.85PPG
- Matt Duchane, 27, 1.14PPG
- Brock Nelson, 26, 0.69PPG

- IonSabres


Hayes will be overpaid, Nelson is a former Islander (we’ve seen how this story goes twice), I like Duchene though. Question is money and term but I think Duchene is the 2nd best player on this team if he were to sign here.

Edit: Let me rephrase, he'd be the 2nd best forward if he were to sign here. I ultimately think Dahlin becomes the best player on the team with Eichel as a close second and that should scare the entire Eastern Conference.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO NY, NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 12 @ 10:46 AM ET
Hayes will be overpaid, Nelson is a former Islander (we’ve seen how this story goes twice), I like Duchene though. Question is money and term but I think Duchene is the 2nd best player on this team if he were to sign here.
- Pegullaville


1. Pommer
2. Duchene
3. Eichel
4. Dahlin


Kinda like this?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:58 AM ET
No one trashed him you (frank)ing wank
- BeadyEyedDouche

He had like 8 shot attempts last night.

They need to be buried

*This is sarcasm, Reinhart played well*
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 12 @ 12:19 PM ET
Hayes will be overpaid, Nelson is a former Islander (we’ve seen how this story goes twice), I like Duchene though. Question is money and term but I think Duchene is the 2nd best player on this team if he were to sign here.

Edit: Let me rephrase, he'd be the 2nd best forward if he were to sign here. I ultimately think Dahlin becomes the best player on the team with Eichel as a close second and that should scare the entire Eastern Conference.

- Pegullaville


Do we go after Duchene bc we need a Center in the short term?
Or should we look more at Stone, who’s a bit better as a goal scorer and is one of the best defensive forwards in the league?

Probably depends what they think about Mittelstadt going forward

Both of those guys are having career years in Ottawa right now
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 12 @ 12:42 PM ET
Do we go after Duchene bc we need a Center in the short term?
Or should we look more at Stone, who’s a bit better as a goal scorer and is one of the best defensive forwards in the league?

Probably depends what they think about Mittelstadt going forward

Both of those guys are having career years in Ottawa right now

- jdfitz77


I like both players. Whether they want to come here, or if Botts wants them is another story. I think a Skinner-Eichel-Stone line would be up there, if not better then the top lines in Colorado and Boston respectively.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 12 @ 12:46 PM ET
Interesting decision upcoming for JBotts concerning what to do for a 2C.
It is a position we all agree is lacking on this team to drive secondary scoring the team obviously is in need of.
He has stated he prefers younger players with term...so a hockey trade.
However,
- do the Sabres have the assets to acquire a higher end producer, say someone of say a RNH caliber?
- the are not a ton of options available for a 25-35-60 producer with 2 -3 years left
- is it the best strategy for a limited roster to be dealing valuable assets?
- probably costs a 1st, A-Prospect, Roster Player

Another option is to leverage the upcoming UFA market.
Questions for this option are
- will current market conditions drive the Cap hit too high?
- does the longer term of a new contract negatively impact Mitt's assention to 2C
- is C the best position to invest heavily in NOW given the pipeline of Mitts, Asplund, Davidsson

Here are a couple of suitable UFA options to consider, admittedly higher-end producers, but expected production 60+pts:
- Kevin Hayes, 26, 0.85PPG
- Matt Duchane, 27, 1.14PPG
- Brock Nelson, 26, 0.69PPG

- IonSabres


Trade for RNH
Nylander, 1st,
+ 2 of (Beaulieu, Scandella, Sobotka)
Idk if that works, but something like that?

Sign Stone

Skinner-Jack-Sam
Sheary-RNH-Stone
CjSmith-Mitts-Thompson
Girgs-Larsson-Okposo(unless we dump him)
E Rod

Dahlin-Bogo
Pilut-Risto
McCabe-
Nelson/Guhle/(Scandella or Beaulieu)
Hunwick

Hutton/Ullmark
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 12 @ 12:50 PM ET
I like both players. Whether they want to come here, or if Botts wants them is another story. I think a Skinner-Eichel-Stone line would be up there, if not better then the top lines in Colorado and Boston respectively.
- Pegullaville


For sure
I could see Stone being a nice fit next to Mitts too- once Mitts is really ready for 2C

Until then though...
Trade for RNH?
Sign someone like Nelson or Hayes who can move down to 3C eventually?

Or just roll with Mitts again at 2C next year & bank on him being ready for it?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 12 @ 12:56 PM ET
Interesting decision upcoming for JBotts concerning what to do for a 2C.
It is a position we all agree is lacking on this team to drive secondary scoring the team obviously is in need of.
He has stated he prefers younger players with term...so a hockey trade.
However,
- do the Sabres have the assets to acquire a higher end producer, say someone of say a RNH caliber?
- the are not a ton of options available for a 25-35-60 producer with 2 -3 years left
- is it the best strategy for a limited roster to be dealing valuable assets?
- probably costs a 1st, A-Prospect, Roster Player

Another option is to leverage the upcoming UFA market.
Questions for this option are
- will current market conditions drive the Cap hit too high?
- does the longer term of a new contract negatively impact Mitt's assention to 2C
- is C the best position to invest heavily in NOW given the pipeline of Mitts, Asplund, Davidsson

Here are a couple of suitable UFA options to consider, admittedly higher-end producers, but expected production 60+pts:
- Kevin Hayes, 26, 0.85PPG
- Matt Duchane, 27, 1.14PPG
- Brock Nelson, 26, 0.69PPG

- IonSabres


Short answer is that they don't have a lot of tradeable assets and JB won't give them up.

A lot of people will toss around a 2nd + a prospect, but we don't have a 2nd or tradeable 3rd. If you won't move a first, you're working with very little. Honestly, this team is not a 2C away from contending anyways.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 12 @ 12:56 PM ET
Trade for RNH
Nylander, 1st,
+ 2 of (Beaulieu, Scandella, Sobotka)
Idk if that works, but something like that?

Sign Stone

Skinner-Jack-Sam
Sheary-RNH-Stone
CjSmith-Mitts-Thompson
Girgs-Larsson-Okposo(unless we dump him)
E Rod

Dahlin-Bogo
Pilut-Risto
McCabe-
Nelson/Guhle/(Scandella or Beaulieu)
Hunwick

Hutton/Ullmark

- jdfitz77




Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 12 @ 1:00 PM ET
For sure
I could see Stone being a nice fit next to Mitts too- once Mitts is really ready for 2C

Until then though...
Trade for RNH?
Sign someone like Nelson or Hayes who can move down to 3C eventually?

Or just roll with Mitts again at 2C next year & bank on him being ready for it?

- jdfitz77


I think they’ll bring somebody in forsure. That can either handle 2/3rd line Centre duties
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 12 @ 1:06 PM ET

- Sabresfan-365




Hey... a guy can dream, can’t he?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
I think they’ll bring somebody in forsure. That can either handle 2/3rd line Centre duties
- Pegullaville


They’ve got room to add a Stone/Duchene
+ a Hayes/Nelson/RNH

-if they dump Okposo (easier said than done)

-or move Sobotka & Scandella/Beaulieu (more realistic option)
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 12 @ 1:16 PM ET
This was a transition year. I honestly would be shocked if it wasn't Botts goal to pick twice in the top 15 this year, get rid of the deadweight, and hit the ground running next year. This team is overachieving even with the recent sputtering.
- Pegullaville



pretty much what I said before... I think it's pretty clear what the plan was this year.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 12 @ 1:31 PM ET
pretty much what I said before... I think it's pretty clear what the plan was this year.
- gordong


Playoff experience has really helped the Devils this year that’s all I gotta say in terms what I hope for from the rest of this season. Just get Skinner signed.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 12 @ 1:32 PM ET
They’ve got room to add a Stone/Duchene
+ a Hayes/Nelson/RNH

-if they dump Okposo (easier said than done)

-or move Sobotka & Scandella/Beaulieu (more realistic option)

- jdfitz77


It would be an offseason move forsure. I would assume Oilers would be looking to add though not subtract. Even if they did trade RNH I’d assume it would be for an ROR type of package perhaps more.
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