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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jan 3 @ 3:05 PM ET
Carol Schram: Pettersson gets first hat trick, Demko is coming, Utunen eliminates Canada Elias Pettersson tallied his first career hat trick as the Vancouver Canucks started the Eastern Canadian portion of their World Juniors road trip with an overtime win over Ottawa. Plus, Thatcher Demko's call-up is imminent as Mike McKenna is placed on waivers and Canucks prospect Toni Utunen is the unlikely hero for Finland as Team Canada is eliminated from the World Junior Championship in the quarterfinal.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 3 @ 3:08 PM ET
Thank you Carol.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 3 @ 3:16 PM ET
Thanks Carol! JV had a fair few healthy sctratches too. Holding guys accountable, whats not to love!
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 3 @ 3:23 PM ET
Playoffs.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jan 3 @ 3:23 PM ET
Carol you are a pro. Another year in the books and you consistently slam out awesome stuff like this one. Thanks
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 3 @ 3:31 PM ET
Thanks Carol, and happy new year!

With the Goldobin talk, I was similarly reminded of Baertschi. It doesn't feel like too long ago that the same criticisms Goldobin is facing (soft, poor defense, and benefiting from a good young center) were being said of Sven. Here's to hoping Goldobin figures it out as well, as his production ceiling seems to be considerably higher than Baertschi's
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 3 @ 3:41 PM ET
Tank you Carol fir another good one.

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 3 @ 4:09 PM ET
Thanks Carol, and happy new year!

With the Goldobin talk, I was similarly reminded of Baertschi. It doesn't feel like too long ago that the same criticisms Goldobin is facing (soft, poor defense, and benefiting from a good young center) were being said of Sven. Here's to hoping Goldobin figures it out as well, as his production ceiling seems to be considerably higher than Baertschi's

- WhiteLie


There were a couple people pushing that nonsense but he was never even close to lazy on D. Awareness needed to sharpen is all. Goldy... standing there chewing on his cud waiting for someone to get the puck and give it to him...
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 3 @ 4:10 PM ET
Thanks Carol. Happy New Year.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 3 @ 4:12 PM ET
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 3 @ 4:16 PM ET
Would you guys do Edler and Goldy for Kappy off of the Leafs? Maybe we need to take some salary off them to fit it but I feel that is a trade they would make. They get solid D and a young player with offensive upside and trade a kid who they can't afford to pay. Works for both teams... but has the potential to be home run for the Canucks.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 07.22.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:19 PM ET
There were a couple people pushing that nonsense but he was never even close to lazy on D. Awareness needed to sharpen is all. Goldy... standing there chewing on his cud waiting for someone to get the puck and give it to him...

- boonerbuck


I don't think its a lack of effort for Goldy. Its a lack of IQ and being able to do the math as it happens defensively.

Its just weird that this team's collective defensive inabilities seem to projected entirely onto Goldobin as if his aura is making everyone else also bad.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 3 @ 4:23 PM ET
Would you guys do Edler and Goldy for Kappy off of the Leafs? Maybe we need to take some salary off them to fit it but I feel that is a trade they would make. They get solid D and a young player with offensive upside and trade a kid who they can't afford to pay. Works for both teams... but has the potential to be home run for the Canucks.
- boonerbuck


Canucks don't have to make moves like that . Unless it is something that blows your socks off , no need.
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
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Jan 3 @ 4:33 PM ET
There were a couple people pushing that nonsense but he was never even close to lazy on D. Awareness needed to sharpen is all. Goldy... standing there chewing on his cud waiting for someone to get the puck and give it to him...

- boonerbuck


I don't know if people just took the story and ran with it, but I recall some pieces written about Baertschi needing similar time in the pressbox to watch and reset his game (whether that means effort/awareness/etc only ol' Willie knows for sure). I definitely agree his awareness needs to sharpen and think it'll come the more he gains NHL experience. I also approve the use of these motivational tactics for players and don't see it as a bad thing, particularly for guys under 150 games played
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 3 @ 4:34 PM ET
McKenna officially on waivers. Hello Thacher

Who names their kid Thacher
WhiteLie
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Jan 3 @ 4:36 PM ET
Canucks don't have to make moves like that . Unless it is something that blows your socks off , no need.
- VANTEL


Agreed. Not saying the deal is lopsided, but I think it greatly benefits Toronto more than Vancouver. I think a solo Edler deal would bring a return that better caters to the plan going forward

Also, for what its worth on Goldobin, loudly proclaiming you scratched a young player and dedicated a whole practice for him to learn is hardly selling high on the kid
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 3 @ 4:37 PM ET
McKenna officially on waivers. Hello Thacher

Who names their kid Thacher

- VANTEL


McKenna off to play for his 54th pro team, man that guy could probably write a book or two about his career lol
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 3 @ 4:38 PM ET
I don't think its a lack of effort for Goldy. Its a lack of IQ and being able to do the math as it happens defensively.

Its just weird that this team's collective defensive inabilities seem to projected entirely onto Goldobin as if his aura is making everyone else also bad.

- Lindenis#1


I'm not sure what you are talking about? I called him lazy and going over video, you can see endless examples. Did you hear Green yesterday? He covered ir tactfully and I agree.

I said absolutely nothing about our D problems being his fault in fact the Canucks were the stingiest team in the league in December so that makes no sense.

So you wouldnt rather see Kappy in our top 6 instead of Goldy? I can only assume I guess.


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 3 @ 4:39 PM ET
Agreed. Not saying the deal is lopsided, but I think it greatly benefits Toronto more than Vancouver. I think a solo Edler deal would bring a return that better caters to the plan going forward

Also, for what its worth on Goldobin, loudly proclaiming you scratched a young player and dedicated a whole practice for him to learn is hardly selling high on the kid

- WhiteLie



Was laughing at that too.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 3 @ 4:40 PM ET
Canucks don't have to make moves like that . Unless it is something that blows your socks off , no need.
- VANTEL


In which manner?

Kappy in our top 6 is a better fit than Goldy and he's in the same age group. Edler is a UFA.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 3 @ 4:40 PM ET
Lets trade a 3rd round pick for Nylander if TO takes some salary retention.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 3 @ 4:41 PM ET
Would you guys do Edler and Goldy for Kappy off of the Leafs? Maybe we need to take some salary off them to fit it but I feel that is a trade they would make. They get solid D and a young player with offensive upside and trade a kid who they can't afford to pay. Works for both teams... but has the potential to be home run for the Canucks.
- boonerbuck


I like Kapanen a lot so I would do that, assuming Edler's trade value is a late 1st + random prospect. Kapanen is the type of player you hope to draft with that late 1st anyway.


Travis Green would probably hate that trade though, he's been using Edler as a workhorse #1 dman ever since he came back from injury, he's averaged like 24.5 minutes a game in December.

Trade would hurt the Canucks this year for sure, but pay off in the long run.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 3 @ 4:43 PM ET
i've been waiting



Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 3 @ 4:44 PM ET
i've been waiting




- kicksave856

kicksave856, aka Demko's biggest fan, hello


is that your jersey?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 3 @ 4:45 PM ET
In which manner?

Kappy in our top 6 is a better fit than Goldy and he's in the same age group. Edler is a UFA.

- boonerbuck


You could get two Kappys and a second for Edler. Toronto can't afford Kappy next year why not wait.

Until Edler agrees to waive and Canucks agree to part ways I think it is nothing more than water cooler talk.
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