Trevor Shackles: Tom Pyatt and the Quest for a Goal Tom Pyatt hasn't been on the ice for a single goal this season

Pyatt has a good work ethic. Not sure it is fair to go hard on a guy who shows up and gives you everything he has. Problem is he just does not have enough to give. And, so, the problem is actually more reflective of coaching and management inadequacies.

Sens are rebuilding. There are several kids that should be playing a regular shift and getting power play and penalty kill time. Way too much worry about winning games and not nearly enough focus on letting the kids develop.

Maybe it is about the club trying to neutralize the consequence of Colorado having their first round pick. That ship has sailed, let it go.

Just seen you on CP24.

Just seen you on CP24.
- LeafGuy89

Ayyyy nice! Hope it looked good

Pyatt has a good work ethic. Not sure it is fair to go hard on a guy who shows up and gives you everything he has. Problem is he just does not have enough to give. And, so, the problem is actually more reflective of coaching and management inadequacies.

Sens are rebuilding. There are several kids that should be playing a regular shift and getting power play and penalty kill time. Way too much worry about winning games and not nearly enough focus on letting the kids develop.

Maybe it is about the club trying to neutralize the consequence of Colorado having their first round pick. That ship has sailed, let it go.
- spatso

Sure he has a good worth ethic, but that doesn't translate to results. I'm not going hard on the guy, I'm just pointing out something so extreme that it'd be bad if I *didn't* bring this up.

Sure he has a good worth ethic, but that doesn't translate to results. I'm not going hard on the guy, I'm just pointing out something so extreme that it'd be bad if I *didn't* bring this up.
- Trevor Shackles

Sorry was not my intention to knock you for your observation. My comment had more to do with the management and coaches making choices that put a player in a situation that is well beyond his skill and competence level.

Maybe it is about the club trying to neutralize the consequence of Colorado having their first round pick. That ship has sailed, let it go.
- spatso

Its unfair and delusional to ask your fellow fans to ignore or dismiss the fact the Sens don't have their own first round pick in a tank year. Just like you stopped being a Leaf fan because of the Leafs trading first round picks, and futures to win now, when they were a bad team. Dont be a hypocrite.

Pyatt has a good work ethic. Not sure it is fair to go hard on a guy who shows up and gives you everything he has. Problem is he just does not have enough to give. And, so, the problem is actually more reflective of coaching and management inadequacies.

Sens are rebuilding. There are several kids that should be playing a regular shift and getting power play and penalty kill time. Way too much worry about winning games and not nearly enough focus on letting the kids develop.

Maybe it is about the club trying to neutralize the consequence of Colorado having their first round pick. That ship has sailed, let it go.
- spatso

saying someone has good work ethic, or grit, or character........is just code for saying they're a nice guy who isn't any good at hockey

saying someone has good work ethic, or grit, or character........is just code for saying they're a nice guy who isn't any good at hockey
- sensarmy_11

Bingo

Geez. Tough market.
First the players go after Guy Boucher's father Marty Raymond. Now we are trashing his son Tom Pyatt.
Maybe Guy is just loyal to a fault.

Bingo
- Trevor Shackles

Looks like some of us get it.

Chabot, very good. White also had strong game. Stone clearly took over the leadership of the team this evening.

Is Chabot now leading all Dmen in scoring?

Is Chabot now leading all Dmen in scoring?
- spatso

Yes, he is.

While the team still has major problems in terms of keeping the puck out of the net (worst GA in the league, and bottom-5 PK), they deserve credit for their early offensive production (6th in the league in GF and PP)... particularly given the number of new faces in the lineup, and the fact that they're accounting for the loss of Karlsson, Hoffman, and Brassard.

Beyond Chabot leading all D-men in scoring and being in the top-10 in league scoring, their best players are performing well, and there's a semblance of scoring depth starting to develop. Even without considering Tkachuk's potential, they currently have multiple top-30 scorers at every position.

Stone - 4th in RW Scoring
Dzingel - T16th in LW Scoring
Lajoie - T20th in D Scoring
Duchene - T21st in C Scoring

Tierney - T24th in C Scoring
Boedker - T25th in LW Scoring
Ryan - T29th in RW Scoring
DeMelo - T35th in D Scoring

I included DeMelo because it's equally notable that he's currently tied with Karlsson straight-up... which clearly won't last, but underlies just how much the team is getting scoring by committee.

That said, if Anderson has any kind of significant injury they should consider signing one of Lehtonen, Mason, or Pavelec very soon... there's really no chance that McKenna or Condon could possibly hold the fort for any substantial period of time, or are even likely to provide basic support to Anderson a back-ups.

Yes, he is.

While the team still has major problems in terms of keeping the puck out of the net (worst GA in the league, and bottom-5 PK), they deserve credit for their early offensive production (6th in the league in GF and PP)... particularly given the number of new faces in the lineup, and the fact that they're accounting for the loss of Karlsson, Hoffman, and Brassard.

Beyond Chabot leading all D-men in scoring and being in the top-10 in league scoring, their best players are performing well, and there's a semblance of scoring depth starting to develop. Even without considering Tkachuk's potential, they currently have multiple top-30 scorers at every position.

Stone - 4th in RW Scoring
Dzingel - T16th in LW Scoring
Lajoie - T20th in D Scoring
Duchene - T21st in C Scoring

Tierney - T24th in C Scoring
Boedker - T25th in LW Scoring
Ryan - T29th in RW Scoring
DeMelo - T35th in D Scoring

I included DeMelo because it's equally notable that he's currently tied with Karlsson straight-up... which clearly won't last, but underlies just how much the team is getting scoring by committee.

That said, if Anderson has any kind of significant injury they should consider signing one of Lehtonen, Mason, or Pavelec very soon... there's really no chance that McKenna or Condon could possibly hold the fort for any substantial period of time, or are even likely to provide basic support to Anderson a back-ups.
- khawk

Good summary. Thanks for the effort.

Perhaps the Karlsson trade was a better outcome than I thought. Norris looks good at Michigan.

You certainly have touched a hot button on the health of Anderson. Hard for any team, especially a young team, to play in front of weak goaltending.

Chabot plays over 24 minutes, 9 shots and 3 pts. He got a bunch of shifts playing with Wideman and it seemed to open up the ice.

Best game I have seen him play.

Awesome skater.

Chabot plays over 24 minutes, 9 shots and 3 pts. He got a bunch of shifts playing with Wideman and it seemed to open up the ice.

Best game I have seen him play.

Awesome skater.
- spatso

They were saying on the radio, that if karlsson was still here he wouldn't have all this time to excel.

I was wary about giving him so much responsibility so early, but hes thriving.
Defensive game still needs polishing, but that will come in time. Really exciting player.

Pyatt is dime a dozen.He dont bothered me last season and previous one.His stats were fine for his TOI.But this season its terrible...his last season before becoming free agent.Time to get rid of him and allow prospect to come over.

Blobby look great and came in hot this season.He can still spell intensity and embrace young blood.Stone look great as always,Duchene perform well,Chabot is the real deal,Tkachuk got the poise,Dzingel dzangles,Andy was in beastmode,White is showing finally why he got hype when drafted,Demelo and Tierney look like solid acquisitions,Boedker is fine and versatile.

There is a lot to like about this team.It may be ugly in defensive zone but its mainly because of poor coaching/stategies.Offensively its damn good and exciting stuff.Lot of highlight reel saves from Andy.

With Tkachuk returning soon and Smith in few weeks,Pyatt is absolutely not worth a roster spot right now.Bring in Paul at least...he easily better option.

Tkachuk-Tierney-Stone
Dzingel-Duchene-Ryan
Smith-White-Boedker
Mccormick-Carey Paul

Chabot-Demelo
Lajoie-Jaros
Boro-Ceci/wideman

Uncertain about Ceci/Wideman.Both dont impress me so much or at all.They're interchangable to me.

Think about it. Bobby Orr was 19 when he won his first Norris trophy.

It began a debate that still continues today. Some dinosaurs actually believe that the best Dman is the plug that can physically control the play in his own end.

If Ottawa makes the playoffs it will be because Chabot continues to grow his game.

It is a long shot but right now Chabot has to be in the early season mix. (Karlsson had his best season when he was 21, he had 19 goals and 78 points). Chabot is well ahead of that pace.

Other early season contenders are Burns, John Carlson and Klingberg.

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Other early season contenders are Burns, John Carlson and Klingberg.

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- spatso

Morgan Reilly
Giordano
Byfuglien
Subban

Morgan Reilly
Giordano
Byfuglien
Subban
- SensFan25

Is Subban the best Dman on his team? No to Reilly.

Typical bias in the sports media too... Morgan Rielly scores 18pts in 15gp as a 24yo on a team that everyone knew would be able to score goals, and TSN is running stories about him being a true #1 d-man, and early Norris Trophy candidate.

Meanwhile, Thomas Chabot had scored 20pts in 15gp as a 21yo, while also having to fill the void of losing Erik Karlsson, on a team that virtually nobody expected to have a 6-6-3 record or have scored more goals than the Leafs... yet you barely hear anything about that from the Leafellatio specialists at TSN.

Don't get me wrong, Rielly is off to a great start and certainly deserves recognition - it would just be nice if there was even a remote sense of parity around these things, but there really isn't.