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I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Oct 1 @ 11:01 PM ET
What!!!!!
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- glennjpawlak22


William J LePetomaine, "Holy underwear!"
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Oct 1 @ 11:03 PM ET
Am i hearing this right CC has been cleared to play?
- BetweenTheDots

That's what Q said today after practice. It doesn't mean he's going to play soon necessarily, it may still be some time to get into game-ready shape.

@BHTVeric
Joel Quenneville said Corey Crawford is medically cleared to play, now he just "has to get ready to play."

@NBCSBlackhawks
Corey Crawford practices with #Blackhawks, medically cleared to play https://t.co/4kH7PWWp5b
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Oct 1 @ 11:30 PM ET
That's what Q said today after practice. It doesn't mean he's going to play soon necessarily, it may still be some time to get into game-ready shape.

@BHTVeric
Joel Quenneville said Corey Crawford is medically cleared to play, now he just "has to get ready to play."

@NBCSBlackhawks
Corey Crawford practices with #Blackhawks, medically cleared to play https://t.co/4kH7PWWp5b

- L_B_R


He's already saying, nah i don't need to go to the AHL to get a couple of games in? Hmmmmm? So we'll see from here, but it sounds very positive.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Oct 1 @ 11:43 PM ET
Apparently CC will be making the trip to Ottawa, which is a great sign.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Oct 2 @ 12:43 AM ET
Just a stab at piecing together a possible Hogs lineup. They have 15 forwards, 8 defensemen, and 3 goalies. Not sure what AHL roster limits are but I expect one of the goalies to be sent to Indy so he can be the starter for the Fuel.

Fortin - Highmore - D Sikura
Edjsell - Louis - Schroeder
Knott - T Sikura - Iacopelli
Noel - Maletta - Nilsson

BENCH: Pelletier, Samuelsson, Broadhurst

Carlsson - Dahlstrom
Gilbert - Raddysh
Snuggerud - Hillman

BENCH: Campbell, Tuulola

Delia
Tompkins

Lankinen as the Indy starter so that he can get his reps on North American ice rather than riding the pine most games in Rockford.

Pelletier replaces D Sikura as a top 6 starter once Dylan gets recalled to the Hawks, hopefully sooner rather than later.
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

Oct 2 @ 1:09 AM ET
Got through 14% of “The Break Away” last night. It seems to be an easy read; the writer is trying to tell a story in a straightforward manner, not impress the reader with the writer’s skills. Author appears to have had good access to family members and archival information. So far the book paints a rather negative picture of “Dollar Bill” and presents the family as pretty disfunctional. From what I’ve read, the author had painted the negative picture the few reviews I’ve read indicated. In typical hawks fashion, however, the ebook was priced at about double what a top-of-the-charts book from authors like Baldacci, Coes, Child, Sandford or Flynn goes for.
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Oct 2 @ 3:56 AM ET
New coach has reeinvigirated Kings last year. Yes its a hit or miss as you said but it was obvious for a while this team need new changes behind the bench and GM for a while already. It may not be better but if one does not try one does not eventually hit Sullivan type.
I think this team benefits from Tort life coach who yells and demands instead of succumbing to country club comforting environment which current core adjusted to love.

- vshun


Reinvigorated the Kings to what?? A first round sweep to an expansion team - where they scored 3 goals in 4 games, and were shutout in two games??

If that's your definition of reinvigorated - I pass
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Oct 2 @ 4:03 AM ET
Respectfully, you are making my case. Of course talent means a lot. The idea that Babcock was the worst coach? Kind of crazy talk. In case you have not noticed Hockey Canada does not let Q close to any national coaching opportunities.

I have said this many times in the past, which gets lost in all my hyperbole, but at the end of the day, if you are not able to get all the players to buy in, it is much more efficient to change the coach then 20 plus players.

Coaches, and all managers in any walk of life, are drawn to the challenge of taking whatever resources they are given and maximizing the organization objectives/goals.

It appears that many coaches have dealt with far more adversity in losing key players for extended periods of time, and still finding a way to keep their teams competitive (making playoffs). Hawk fans go thru extended mental gymnastics every year to "just know" that Toews has some injuries that will require multiple off season surgeries... and that Q's hands are tied.

My comment is centered, not on the fact that the hawks have fallen back in the pack, it is just in how they have done it. Clearly, regardless of talent, there is a disconnect in how this team competes night in and night out. That, to me, is a reflection of the coach.

While I knock Q, I will not take away what has been accomplished. Pro sports is what have you done for me lately. Contorting our minds and wishing for yesteryear, wastes the current opportunity in front of us. Before you trade your core, switch the coach and the message. Reinvigorate the group before its too late.

- TrueGrit


As usual, you are talking out of your behind. You were so not missed here during your time off.

Take the case of Alain Vigneault. Over a seven year period, he coached a talented Vancouver team. They had two of the best forwards on the planet - in their prime, a top three goalie, and and a very good defensive core. Those teams were probably more talented than the Hawks - and they have how many cups to show for it??

I also give you John Cooper in Tampa. While most on this site crown Yzerman as the greatest G.M. that ever lived - how many cups does Cooper sport?? Yep, the sound of crickets......

I keep telling people on this site - and I will tell you - be careful what you wish for.

Because five years after Quenneville is gone - most of you will be pining for the days he was here - and he will probably be winning somewhere else.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Oct 2 @ 7:13 AM ET
As usual, you are talking out of your behind. You were so not missed here during your time off.

Take the case of Alain Vigneault. Over a seven year period, he coached a talented Vancouver team. They had two of the best forwards on the planet - in their prime, a top three goalie, and and a very good defensive core. Those teams were probably more talented than the Hawks - and they have how many cups to show for it??

I also give you John Cooper in Tampa. While most on this site crown Yzerman as the greatest G.M. that ever lived - how many cups does Cooper sport?? Yep, the sound of crickets......

I keep telling people on this site - and I will tell you - be careful what you wish for.

Because five years after Quenneville is gone - most of you will be pining for the days he was here - and he will probably be winning somewhere else.

- dahawks8819


More like the days he was here along with the team he coached. I'm generally a fan of Q but every coach has a shelf life, a point in time where the message becomes stale and a new bench boss is needed.

Does that mean they can hire someone better than Q? Likely no, but it doesn't mean there is no one out there that can potentially get more out of the current team as configured.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 2 @ 7:46 AM ET
More like the days he was here along with the team he coached. I'm generally a fan of Q but every coach has a shelf life, a point in time where the message becomes stale and a new bench boss is needed.

Does that mean they can hire someone better than Q? Likely no, but it doesn't mean there is no one out there that can potentially get more out of the current team as configured.

- HawkintheD



Yeah but did Q ever play "Wayne" Pirri the way True Contrarian was certain Pirri should be played? The answer is no! Therefore True Contrarian is right and you are wrong. As True Contrarian rightly said in 2011, Q isn't a modern coach and should be fired. And please don't bore me with your alternate facts about the 2013 and 2015 cup wins. Those wins have no bearing on this discussion because the cup wins were not modern, therefore the 2013 and 2015 cup wins don't count.
wonthecup10
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 02.05.2008

Oct 2 @ 7:50 AM ET
Just a stab at piecing together a possible Hogs lineup. They have 15 forwards, 8 defensemen, and 3 goalies. Not sure what AHL roster limits are but I expect one of the goalies to be sent to Indy so he can be the starter for the Fuel.

Fortin - Highmore - D Sikura
Edjsell - Louis - Schroeder
Knott - T Sikura - Iacopelli
Noel - Maletta - Nilsson

BENCH: Pelletier, Samuelsson, Broadhurst

Carlsson - Dahlstrom
Gilbert - Raddysh
Snuggerud - Hillman

BENCH: Campbell, Tuulola

Delia
Tompkins

Lankinen as the Indy starter so that he can get his reps on North American ice rather than riding the pine most games in Rockford.

Pelletier replaces D Sikura as a top 6 starter once Dylan gets recalled to the Hawks, hopefully sooner rather than later.

- AEL_Fox


Most of them are Stan’s , roll the dice, let me combed some independent league’s, and see if we could catch lightning in a bottle with any of these guys. Hopefully there’s a couple of these guys that will surprise a lot of people.

My question is what about some of the kids they drafted That are still in college what is thier estimated time of arrival?
wonthecup10
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 02.05.2008

Oct 2 @ 7:55 AM ET
As usual, you are talking out of your behind. You were so not missed here during your time off.

Take the case of Alain Vigneault. Over a seven year period, he coached a talented Vancouver team. They had two of the best forwards on the planet - in their prime, a top three goalie, and and a very good defensive core. Those teams were probably more talented than the Hawks - and they have how many cups to show for it??

I also give you John Cooper in Tampa. While most on this site crown Yzerman as the greatest G.M. that ever lived - how many cups does Cooper sport?? Yep, the sound of crickets......

I keep telling people on this site - and I will tell you - be careful what you wish for.

Because five years after Quenneville is gone - most of you will be pining for the days he was here - and he will probably be winning somewhere else.

- dahawks8819


Right on and to the point. Excellent post đź‘Ť
phantasmo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.13.2016

Oct 2 @ 7:56 AM ET

I keep telling people on this site - and I will tell you - be careful what you wish for.

Because five years after Quenneville is gone - most of you will be pining for the days he was here - and he will probably be winning somewhere else.

- dahawks8819


I'm with you. This roster is a relic of days of glory past. The Hawks brass has all but admitted this is a white flag season with all of the ticket promotions "....if you haven't been in awhile, come see what it's all about". No mention of "One Goal", any sort of competitive edge.

The Vegas thing is smoke and mirrors
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Oct 2 @ 8:33 AM ET
That's what Q said today after practice. It doesn't mean he's going to play soon necessarily, it may still be some time to get into game-ready shape.

@BHTVeric
Joel Quenneville said Corey Crawford is medically cleared to play, now he just "has to get ready to play."

@NBCSBlackhawks
Corey Crawford practices with #Blackhawks, medically cleared to play https://t.co/4kH7PWWp5b

- L_B_R


Just to add, when listening to the interview, someone asked him if it will be a few practices or if they will be extra cautious.

Q responded with "Well, a few practices, when he's been out for that long, sometimes it is 2 or 3 weeks, but we'll see."
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Oct 2 @ 9:02 AM ET
Just to add, when listening to the interview, someone asked him if it will be a few practices or if they will be extra cautious.

Q responded with "Well, a few practices, when he's been out for that long, sometimes it is 2 or 3 weeks, but we'll see."

- breadbag


Does this change his return timetable or is it still the Nov-Dec mark?
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Oct 2 @ 9:04 AM ET
Thank you for the Hogs roster update.

As far as blueliners who can play both sides, I think Hillman is capable as well.

- AEL_Fox


Correct.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Oct 2 @ 9:13 AM ET
Does this change his return timetable or is it still the Nov-Dec mark?
- I Am The Breadman


I wasn't aware of an official timetable, but just glad he is getting close.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Oct 2 @ 9:16 AM ET
Just a stab at piecing together a possible Hogs lineup. They have 15 forwards, 8 defensemen, and 3 goalies. Not sure what AHL roster limits are but I expect one of the goalies to be sent to Indy so he can be the starter for the Fuel.

Fortin - Highmore - D Sikura
Edjsell - Louis - Schroeder
Knott - T Sikura - Iacopelli
Noel - Maletta - Nilsson

BENCH: Pelletier, Samuelsson, Broadhurst

Carlsson - Dahlstrom
Gilbert - Raddysh
Snuggerud - Hillman

BENCH: Campbell, Tuulola

Delia
Tompkins

Lankinen as the Indy starter so that he can get his reps on North American ice rather than riding the pine most games in Rockford.

Pelletier replaces D Sikura as a top 6 starter once Dylan gets recalled to the Hawks, hopefully sooner rather than later.

- AEL_Fox


Guys, thanks for shedding light on the Hog's roster. I'm really curious to see the development of the D in the system.
ChicagoHope
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lyndon, IL
Joined: 08.13.2007

Oct 2 @ 10:11 AM ET
Does this change his return timetable or is it still the Nov-Dec mark?
- I Am The Breadman


I am predicting that he returns November 1st.
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Oct 2 @ 10:20 AM ET
As usual, you are talking out of your behind. You were so not missed here during your time off.

Take the case of Alain Vigneault. Over a seven year period, he coached a talented Vancouver team. They had two of the best forwards on the planet - in their prime, a top three goalie, and and a very good defensive core. Those teams were probably more talented than the Hawks - and they have how many cups to show for it??

I also give you John Cooper in Tampa. While most on this site crown Yzerman as the greatest G.M. that ever lived - how many cups does Cooper sport?? Yep, the sound of crickets......

I keep telling people on this site - and I will tell you - be careful what you wish for.

Because five years after Quenneville is gone - most of you will be pining for the days he was here - and he will probably be winning somewhere else.

- dahawks8819


I can guarantee you that I will not be pining for Q 5 years after he is gone. Give it a rest with respect to the “Be careful what you wish for” rhetoric. This time period should already be running. I have wanted Q gone for years now. Even when the team was competing and winning Cups I never believed it was because of Q. In fact I posted back then that Q needed to get out of the players’ way. When he did there was success. When he was stubborn and didn’t there were early exits. Q fans like to forget that there was a series of First Round exits too. The Hawks won 3 Cups but there are very good arguments to be made that they should have won more, perhaps many more. Losing to an inferior LA team in the West Final is but one example - remember whichever team won that Series was going to easily win the Cup.

Q has been opportunistic his entire coaching career, in the same manner that Scotty Bowman was. If you coach elite teams you are guaranteed a certain level of success. There are numerous Coaches that could have duplicated or bettered Q’s success with the Hawks.

The Hawks are the only team to not search out a “new voice”. Q has been coaching the Hawks 6 years longer than any other NHL Coach has been coaching. Q has more extra years than any other Coach has years. So either all the other NHL franchises do not know what they are doing or the Hawks franchise doesn’t.

Your personal attack on True Grit is also indefensible. You seem to be suggesting that unless he agrees with you and is pro-Q he has no place on this Board. Look it up - such one-minded thinking hasn’t been a good thing historically.

This is where we stand - 3 years ago a First Round loss to the Blues - 2 years ago a First Round SWEEP loss to the Predators, after finishing First in the West - 1 year ago - missed the play-offs altogether. Only Q, with the Hawks, survives this performance.



HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:24 AM ET
Yeah but did Q ever play "Wayne" Pirri the way True Contrarian was certain Pirri should be played? The answer is no! Therefore True Contrarian is right and you are wrong. As True Contrarian rightly said in 2011, Q isn't a modern coach and should be fired. And please don't bore me with your alternate facts about the 2013 and 2015 cup wins. Those wins have no bearing on this discussion because the cup wins were not modern, therefore the 2013 and 2015 cup wins don't count.
- paulr


True, Brandon Gretzky has gone on to be a scoring phenom...for the Wolves. Of course 2013 doesn't count as it was a shortened season and honestly who cares about 2015? That team wasn't stacked top to bottom, had more of Stan's guys than Dale's and wasn't guaranteed to win the Cup like in 2010, so I didn't pay much attention.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:52 AM ET
Correct.
- Justin Lowe



I'm a big fan of Hillman, he has a different skill set than the other, more highly touted defensive prospects.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Oct 2 @ 10:56 AM ET
Right on and to the point. Excellent post đź‘Ť
- wonthecup10


I rest my case ... But really Q should have been gone after he stormed out of the draft meeting over Jhammer trade ..He will not get on board with the FO ,and fights them tooth and nail on every player move .Looks like he has no understanding of a hard cap .

His lack of practice time is legendary ,therefore best coach to play fore . That may work when you have super star players and boat loads of veteran players . He throws young players into the Fire with no real direction ,that may work sometimes .Most of the time they need a little coaching no a lot of coaching .Q benching and sitting them is Neanderthal coaching .And he has no imagination or seems fire for the game anymore ..Time for a change and soon .
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Oct 2 @ 11:09 AM ET
I rest my case ... But really Q should have been gone after he stormed out of the draft meeting over Jhammer trade ..He will not get on board with the FO ,and fights them tooth and nail on every player move .Looks like he has no understanding of a hard cap .

His lack of practice time is legendary ,therefore best coach to play fore . That may work when you have super star players and boat loads of veteran players . He throws young players into the Fire with no real direction ,that may work sometimes .Most of the time they need a little coaching no a lot of coaching .Q benching and sitting them is Neanderthal coaching .And he has no imagination or seems fire for the game anymore ..Time for a change and soon .

- oldduffman


Any coach who cares about their team would be upset when their GM punted two trades in a row. Hammer for Murphy is only trumped by Panarin for Saad. We lost both of those trades, badly. Murphy is a 5/6 Dman, and Saad is maybe half the player Panarin is. I think Q should've probably been cut loose after the sweep or last season. He's a phenomenal coach and getting 3 Cups in 6 years is a nearly impossible task, I can't believe someone on here honestly thinks he should have more, getting one cup has escaped plenty of teams in this league. Q is a great coach, but the mojo is gone and we need a new system that will hold everyone accountable and emphasize speed.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Oct 2 @ 11:24 AM ET
Any coach who cares about their team would be upset when their GM punted two trades in a row. Hammer for Murphy is only trumped by Panarin for Saad. We lost both of those trades, badly. Murphy is a 5/6 Dman, and Saad is maybe half the player Panarin is. I think Q should've probably been cut loose after the sweep or last season. He's a phenomenal coach and getting 3 Cups in 6 years is a nearly impossible task, I can't believe someone on here honestly thinks he should have more, getting one cup has escaped plenty of teams in this league. Q is a great coach, but the mojo is gone and we need a new system that will hold everyone accountable and emphasize speed.
- ObeseOprah


Hammer was already starting to fall apart from years of wear, tear and being a human shield, so I don’t agree that the Hawks lost that trade.

Now if you’re suggesting the trade was Murphy for the memory of 2015 and before Hammer then yes the Hawks got wiped out in that deal.
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