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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 14 @ 5:07 PM ET
LE our biggest contract has a 15 team NTC kicking in for 2020-21 & 2021-22. Also a lockout/strike could occur in 2020.

Those years options open up to move him or buy him out. That is far down the road & for another day.

Beagle & Roussel are also maybe a concern at those same years.

Just go look at Capfriendly & see how well we sit & do the math.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Sep 14 @ 5:07 PM ET
Peter Chiarelli on Karlsson:

“I won’t lie. When he came to our division, there was an expletive coming out of my mouth. He’d be nice to have here, but we weren’t on his list. It was a non-starter.”

If he wouldn't go to Edmonton, he definitely wasn't coming here!

- Carol Schram



Edmonton is still pretty different from Vancouver in terms of livability.

I remember Chris Prongers wife forbid him from signing an extension in edmonton because she couldn't stand living there.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 14 @ 5:08 PM ET
Edmonton is still pretty different from Vancouver in terms of livability.

I remember Chris Prongers wife forbid him from signing an extension in edmonton because she couldn't stand living there.

- classic321


AKA he doesn't wear the pants 😂😂
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Sep 14 @ 5:12 PM ET
2019-20 at the ealiest but more likely the 2020-21 season. Have you done your capology to back up your concerns? Its premature to assume cap management is an issue in those years without a basis & presuming JB hasn’t planned or considered the future. The cap is in great shape.
- Nighthawk


they already have $17.5m locked in for 2021-22 between horvat erikson rousell, and beagle. add in a rough guess of boeser and pettersson getting $15m between them and thats almost half of todays salary cap without paying for a starting goalie or 2 top pairing defensemen.

even if the cap rises another $10 million in 4 years youve still got 41% of your cap tied up without having paid several key positions. its not a catastrophe but $12 million of that is the junk you normally pay a combined 5 for
Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

Sep 14 @ 5:15 PM ET
AKA he doesn't wear the pants 😂😂
- Nighthawk


I'm pretty sure it was because he couldn't keep his pants on that his wife called for the move.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 14 @ 5:17 PM ET
I'm pretty sure it was because he couldn't keep his pants on that his wife called for the move.
- Beergu

You could be onto something there 😂😂
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Sep 14 @ 5:17 PM ET
WPG had the same issue a few years back but no longer. EDM won't have an issue attracting players after this year.
- LordHumungous

Been hearing that for 10 years
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 14 @ 5:18 PM ET
LE our biggest contract has a 15 team NTC kicking in for 2020-21 & 2021-22. Also a lockout/strike could occur in 2020.

Those years options open up to move him or buy him out. That is far down the road & for another day.

Beagle & Roussel are also maybe a concern at those same years.

Just go look at Capfriendly & see how well we sit & do the math.

- Nighthawk

Again LE's contract is buyout proof
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 14 @ 5:20 PM ET
LE our biggest contract has a 15 team NTC kicking in for 2020-21 & 2021-22. Also a lockout/strike could occur in 2020.

Those years options open up to move him or buy him out. That is far down the road & for another day.

Beagle & Roussel are also maybe a concern at those same years.

Just go look at Capfriendly & see how well we sit & do the math.

- Nighthawk


Only 7 players are signed for the 2020-21 season. I think what people are concerned about, is having room for to pay our future stars, being able to sign a free agent, that may help bring us to the next level, when we reach contention status, and the potential cap recapture of Luongo's contract.
Personally , I am not that concerned at this time, but those concerns could be a reality.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 14 @ 5:27 PM ET
they already have $17.5m locked in for 2021-22 between horvat erikson rousell, and beagle. add in a rough guess of boeser and pettersson getting $15m between them and thats almost half of todays salary cap without paying for a starting goalie or 2 top pairing defensemen.

even if the cap rises another $10 million in 4 years youve still got 41% of your cap tied up without having paid several key positions. its not a catastrophe but $12 million of that is the junk you normally pay a combined 5 for

- johnnykarate


Seeing we have 18m locked up for 2021 & that’s not a problem & leaves us 71m for 19 players. LE is $6m of that & could easily be gone by then or absorbed. Same goes fir both Beagle & Roussel. EP has his ELC end in 2020. He could get a bridge but not likely. So assuming he hits stardom that might mean $10m so leaves us at 28m for 5 F’s & 0 D. Hughes is the following year. 64m for 18 players is a ton of cap & when ELC’s if other prospects are factored in & raises it still looks great. Now if prospects turn out as we expect its good times for us & if a problem cap wise then we are no different than any other contender.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 14 @ 5:30 PM ET
Only 7 players are signed for the 2020-21 season. I think what people are concerned about, is having room for to pay our future stars, being able to sign a free agent, that may help bring us to the next level, when we reach contention status, and the potential cap recapture of Luongo's contract.
Personally , I am not that concerned at this time, but those concerns could be a reality.

- Reubenkincade


Well said. Being concerned or not, you should at least consider the potential for difficulty.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 14 @ 5:31 PM ET
Again LE's contract is buyout proof
- A_SteamingLombardi


Nope. 2020 the lockout/strike window opens up. He could be exposed for the Seattle e-draft & picked up. His 6th year has much less bonus money. If the cap in 2022 is about 95m he is only 7% of a teams cap & becones more reasonable. Still it’s something JB got into & will have to deal with.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 14 @ 5:32 PM ET
Wasnt nate schmitt caught for a banned substance after taking bcaas from the vegas training staff? I cant comment cause im pretty ignorant to whats on that list, but i dont think its as easy to take steroids in the pros as i think you guys might think.
- Codes1087


Roids are for power and size, think footballers and body builders. Hgh is more likely. The testing only commences 2 weeks before training camp so the is plenty of time to get a month boost under the current CBA.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 14 @ 5:33 PM ET
I find a need to say this...

Harping on contracts & female doging about players in the offseason is getting very stale. Is it too much to ask to let them train & play hockey before we have 7 more months of the same ol same ol?

- Nighthawk


YES!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 14 @ 5:34 PM ET
Well said. Being concerned or not, you should at least consider the potential for difficulty.
- 1970vintage


Only if potential becomes reality.
Luongo could go in LTIR no problem.
Even if a healthy backup it’s fine.
I understand ppl looking far ahead but i see nothing terribly bad to worry about. So much can happen in 3-4yrs i can wait.

I am not a doom & gloomer. Enough of those ppl to already go around.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 14 @ 5:35 PM ET
YES!
- Pres.cup


Troll check confirmed 👍
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 14 @ 5:36 PM ET
Beagle lapping the entire group during bag skates





Suck it Pres/Vintsy!

- Nucker101




Do you know what that proves? That he's the best at being bag skated, due to having the most practice at it because he sucks! Thanks for verifying the fact that he's great at suckage!
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 14 @ 5:36 PM ET
Nope. 2020 the lockout/strike window opens up. He could be exposed for the Seattle e-draft & picked up. His 6th year has much less bonus money. If the cap in 2022 is about 95m he is only 7% of a teams cap & becones more reasonable. Still it’s something JB got into & will have to deal with.
- Nighthawk

Buying out LE saves nothing, it all counts against the cap, but hey just keep swinging those pom poms.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 14 @ 5:37 PM ET
Buying out LE saves nothing, it all counts against the cap, but hey just keep swinging those pom poms.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Keep on pissin in yer corn flakes 👍
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 14 @ 5:38 PM ET
Roids are for power and size, think footballers and body builders. Hgh is more likely. The testing only commences 2 weeks before training camp so the is plenty of time to get a month boost under the current CBA.
- Pres.cup


Brock looks jacked, but it really doesnt mean he got there using juice. Its amazing what protein alone can do for a guy who works out 5 or 6 times a week, is on a good diet plan, and has the resources at his disposal to get in great shape. I guess what im trying to say, that if anybody can get jacked in 2 or 3 months of summer, with tons of time and resources, its hockey players.

Edit - i guess with the wrong resources and time, hockey players can also end up like virtanen and hutton too lol
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 14 @ 5:38 PM ET
I hearya but the term means nothing yet while we have this ongoing rebuild & draft & develop. Again down the road is too far to determine what it means.
- Nighthawk


In three year it will mean something, right? Do you think he's tradable in three years?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 14 @ 5:38 PM ET
Keep on pissin in yer corn flakes 👍
- Nighthawk

You're still wrong (frank)tard.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 14 @ 5:40 PM ET
Loui Erickson at 6 million-4-years remaining
Jay Beagle 3 million -4 years.
Both the same age, both kill penalties, one is a much needed centre, one is a winger blocking youth entering the system.

- Reubenkincade


Add rousell... 12 million dollar bottom line in three years.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 14 @ 5:42 PM ET
In three year it will mean something, right? Do you think he's tradable in three years?
- Pres.cup

When you look through rose colored glassed all the red flags lust look like flags.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 14 @ 5:42 PM ET
What is shortsighted in your opinion?
I see no problems if anything is needed to be done. Worrying about year 3 & 4 is premature & not any problem i’d worry about. Cap is fine.

- Nighthawk


So we should only ever plan for this year and the next? Great, why didn't we trade the first round in 21,22,23,24,25,26 for EK? you need to plan three and four years out.
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