If I was Matthews, I'm not going to lie, I would be pissed. He's supposed to be the #1 guy on this team, instead Johnny T seems to be getting all the attention and instantly given an A.

Kind of a slap in the face.
- Maverick1818

Dont see it like that at all.You notice nobody got the C right.You dont think maybe when hes good and ready he will get it?As far as JT getting a A,sure why not.

Word is Matthews isnt happy about Snakevares coming in and calling the shots and Nylander is boycotting training camp due to Dubas Melnyking him


Grab your popcorn this is gonna get interesting

Word is Matthews isnt happy about Snakevares coming in and stealing the show and Nylander is boycotting training camp due to Dubas Melnyking him


Grab your popcorn this is gonna get interesting
- Komisaurus Rex

Actually this sounds more like it.

I never mentioned his contract. You did. I bet he'll get similar numbers to Tavares fwiw.

I bet he will get a letter eventually, but why the rush? Why does he NEED one now? Just to keep up with McDavid in some bizarre competition?

Do you honestly think Matthews doesn't respect players like Marleau, Tavares, or even Reilly? He probably looked up to some of them before he made the NHL.

Why would he really be that upset just because they got letters and he didn't?
Do you really think his ego is that big that he's gonna be insulted that he got overlooked in favor of these other great options? I mean, it's not like they picked some lesser talent player with a similar amount of experience like Connor Brown, or Zack Hyman...

He wasn't snubbed or something, there are just a lot of good options and no need to rush to give him such a position. The idea that he's all bent out of shape about this is just the rambling fantasies dreamt up by EK.
- Thecakeisalie

Your not reading or understanding what I'm saying.

The comment was he doesn't have to/doesn't want to have a letter (or similar), because he shouldn't have the pressure (amongst other things. I countered that by questioning should he have the similar responsibility or similar of a huge contract then?. It's comparable, what you have said is not.

Your not reading or understanding what I'm saying.

The comment was he doesn't have to/doesn't want to have a letter (or similar), because he shouldn't have the pressure (amongst other things. I countered that by questioning should he have the similar responsibility or similar of a huge contract then?. It's comparable, what you have said is not.
- Aussiepenguin

No your response is nonsensical.

Being made captain and getting a large contract don't need to coincide. Just because he gets the responsibility of a big contract soon, doesn't mean he also needs to shoulder the further responsibility of being captain right away.

Could they make him captain now? Yeah, probably. Do they need to? No.
There are other excellent options for leadership positions who can take away some of the pressure from him for now and maybe even mentor him on what it means to be a good leader on an NHL team.

No your response is nonsensical.

Being made captain and getting a large contract don't need to coincide. Just because he gets the responsibility of a big contract soon, doesn't mean he also needs to shoulder the further responsibility of being captain right away.

Could they make him captain now? Yeah, probably. Do they need to? No.
There are other excellent options for leadership positions who can take away some of the pressure from him for now and maybe even mentor him on what it means to be a good leader on an NHL team.
- Thecakeisalie

Again I have never mentioned captain. What is your reading comprehension difficulty? Too many beers - nothing wrong with that! Move away from me wanting Matthews captain!

Again I have never mentioned captain. What is your reading comprehension difficulty? Too many beers - nothing wrong with that! Move away from me wanting Matthews captain!
- Aussiepenguin

Captain or assistant doesn't change my argument. Your own argument makes no sense, as I just explained.

Just because he gets the "responsibility" of a large contract (in what world is a great player going to be against a big contract cause of the responsibility? It's retarded) doesn't mean he needs to compound that with the extra responsibility of a letter right away.
Maybe he'll get a letter at some point, but it doesn't need to be now.

Again I have never mentioned captain. What is your reading comprehension difficulty? Too many beers - nothing wrong with that! Move away from me wanting Matthews captain!
- Aussiepenguin

I'll be honest, I'm really not sure what you're saying or what your point is. It's probably on me, but you've lost me. So as they say on Dragon's Den, I'm out.

Why you would want a letter in Toronto is beyond me. You have to answer questions that esteemed media members like Berger, Cox, Simmons and Eklund have.

You have to answer questions about scenarios you had no knowledge existed.

I mean could you imagine having to answer EKs question from a fortnight ago asking "Are both Ontario teams in turmoil?".

How do you answer that with a straight face?
- walshyleafsfan

I'll be honest, I'm really not sure what you're saying or what your point is. It's probably on me, but you've lost me. So as they say on Dragon's Den, I'm out.
- walshyleafsfan

It's just that dumb, you are having trouble grasping it.

He's basically trying to argue that if Matthews shouldn't be expected to shoulder the responsibility and scrutiny he'd get from having a letter on his jersey, that he also should therefore be protected from the responsibility of having to live up to a large contract.

It's some weird argument that if he's not ready for a letter, he should be given a lesser contract to save him from responsibility or some such.

I think you have the right idea. This argument is giving me a shades of UG vibe. Just pointless back and forth with the goalposts constantly shifting.

I'll be honest, I'm really not sure what you're saying or what your point is. It's probably on me, but you've lost me. So as they say on Dragon's Den, I'm out.
- walshyleafsfan

Best you let it go, he's in ahole mode this evening and is pretty much incoherent.

Does anyone else wonder about a guy who is on the beach using his iphone to post dumb poop on some other teams thread?

Captain or assistant doesn't change my argument. Your own argument makes no sense, as I just explained.

Just because he gets the "responsibility" of a large contract (in what world is a great player going to be against a big contract cause of the responsibility? It's retarded) doesn't mean he needs to compound that with the extra responsibility of a letter right away.
Maybe he'll get a letter at some point, but it doesn't need to be now.
- Thecakeisalie

Ok, I can't draw a picture but I'll break it down.

I'm saying the kid is a leader. A comment that wasn't yours explained that he shouldn't be given the responsibility of having a letter (NOT (frank)ING CAPTAIN ), & be allowed to develop slowly without other things getting in the way.

I replied to that should he get a huge contract implying with a big contract there are responsibilities that come with that & ill expand & say a lot of things that come with a letter are also comparable with having a big contract. That poster hasn't replied.

I'm not arguing any point against you as I'm not discussing him being a captain. Stop looking to try & discredit my comment by changing what the subject matter is as I'm not saying it.

It's just that dumb, you are having trouble grasping it.

He's basically trying to argue that if Matthews shouldn't be expected to shoulder the responsibility and scrutiny he'd get from having a letter on his jersey, that he also should therefore be protected from the responsibility of having to live up to a large contract.

It's some weird argument that if he's not ready for a letter, he should be given a lesser contract to save him from responsibility or some such.

I think you have the right idea. This argument is giving me a shades of UG vibe. Just pointless back and forth with the goalposts constantly shifting.
- Thecakeisalie

You're close but just so far away.

Best you let it go, he's in ahole mode this evening and is pretty much incoherent.

Does anyone else wonder about a guy who is on the beach using his iphone to post dumb poop on some other teams thread?
- Aetherial

Here I was thinking its eks thread not the Leafs thread you arrogant arse!

I'm passing time in the sun as there is no surf. So please, feel free to go (frank) your self!

Here I was thinking its eks thread not the Leafs thread you arrogant arse!

I'm passing time in the sun as there is no surf. So please, feel free to go (frank) your self!
- Aussiepenguin

rattled

If I was Matthews, I'm not going to lie, I would be pissed. He's supposed to be the #1 guy on this team, instead Johnny T seems to be getting all the attention and instantly given an A.

Kind of a slap in the face.
- Maverick1818

This


(frank)ing


Guy

What say me? I say you may want to wipe your chin. Youve got poop on it from kissing Matthews ass so damn much. Did you have your whole head up there? He had a poop playoff because hes lazy. When the playoffs were over the coach flew to Arizona to meet him with rumours swirling they werent getting along. Now he doesnt get an A. Ever think maybe Matthews is the problem? All this tells a more intuitive person than you that Matthews is a lazy, spoiled, entitled prima donna dbag that only cares about himself. Ship him outta town fast

This


(frank)ing


Guy


- jimi james

Sens fan. they need something these days to keep their mind off of their own team.

The other guy is just doing his daily troll and somehow he managed to rattle himself. I imagine he does pretty much everything by himself.

What say me? I say you may want to wipe your chin. Youve got poop on it from kissing Matthews ass so damn much. Did you have your whole head up there? He had a poop playoff because hes lazy. When the playoffs were over the coach flew to Arizona to meet him with rumours swirling they werent getting along. Now he doesnt get an A. Ever think maybe Matthews is the problem? All this tells a more intuitive person than you that Matthews is a lazy, spoiled, entitled prima donna dbag that only cares about himself. Ship him outta town fast
- Liamace

How is it that you think he came to be that way?

rattled
- Aetherial

#notleafsthread

#notleafsthread
- Aussiepenguin

Subject matter: 100% Leafs

Your participation: unexplainable, incoherent, rattled

Subject matter: 100% Leafs

Your participation: unexplainable, incoherent, rattled
- Aetherial

It's such a shame. You Leaves fans just hate it when there's a comment made that goes against anything positive you people think. Nothing I've said this morning is really negative, it just questions the pathway Babcock is choosing. You appear to see it challenging the very stability of the organisation!

I'm glad you've moved on from stupid, butthurt & jealous.

I'm feeling generous. How about you give me your thoughts about the differences between having a letter (NOT THE CAPTAIN ), & an $11m contract? Are there any similarities?

#nottheleafsthread

It's such a shame. You Leaves fans just hate it when there's a comment made that goes against anything positive you people think. Nothing I've said this morning is really negative, it just questions the pathway Babcock is choosing. You appear to see it challenging the very stability of the organisation!

I'm glad you've moved on from stupid, butthurt & jealous.

I'm feeling generous. How about you give me your thoughts about the differences between having a letter (NOT THE CAPTAIN ), & an $11m contract? Are there any similarities?

#nottheleafsthread
- Aussiepenguin

It's such a shame. You Leaves fans just hate it when there's a comment made that goes against anything positive you people think. Nothing I've said this morning is really negative, it just questions the pathway Babcock is choosing. You appear to see it challenging the very stability of the organisation!

I'm glad you've moved on from stupid, butthurt & jealous.

I'm feeling generous. How about you give me your thoughts about the differences between having a letter (NOT THE CAPTAIN ), & an $11m contract? Are there any similarities?

#nottheleafsthread
- Aussiepenguin

Oh I have an idea for you.

Nobody with measurable cognitive function can understand what Dorion is talking about.

So maybe you can help?

https://mobile.twitter.co...tatus/1040412758943195136

The Leafs have been very fortunate to have had the Oilers "rebuild" happen a few years before them

It's made the Leafs management job very easy. Look at what the Oilers have done. Do the opposite.
- walshyleafsfan

Well that comment is ridiculous.

So the Leafs have the same playing personnel a sign the Oil?

I think the Leafs are the prototype for all teams to follow in a rebuild, they've done it very very well to date. The Oil have done things in a terrible way that quite frankly the Leafs couldn't possibly follow. Oh, & the Leafs don't have McDavid.