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Trevor Shackles
Ottawa Senators
Location: Richmond, BC
Joined: 05.18.2018

Sep 11 @ 3:12 AM ET
Trevor Shackles: Melnyk Makes it Apparent that Erik Karlsson is a Goner In a strange video released last night, Eugene Melnyk made it seem like Erik Karlsson (and others) will be gone in 2019-2020
Footer52
Season Ticket Holder
Colorado Avalanche
Location: CRESTONE, CO
Joined: 09.20.2013

Sep 11 @ 3:42 AM ET
actually astonishing what a trainwreck these 5 minutes were from melnyk
jimrobin
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.07.2005

Sep 11 @ 3:59 AM ET
I'm so embarrassed to be a Sens fan right now. He must think we're all complete morons. There's 5 mins and 47 seconds I'll never get back.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 11 @ 3:59 AM ET
I despise Melnyk. My credentials in that regard are gold plated and have been for a long time.

However, i am fine with this rebuild promo. Far better to go "all in" rather than play at the margins.

So, 10 players (this year) with less than 10 NHL games played and adding another 6 rookies next year.

These numbers have been given to Melnyk (by Dorion and others). I assume that 3 and perhaps as many as 5 of those rookie players (out of the 16) are part of the return for Karlsson, Stone and Duchene.

Guy Boucher was a great junior coach. I guess he is going to have to remember how to coach kids again.




spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 11 @ 4:17 AM ET
actually astonishing what a trainwreck these 5 minutes were from melnyk
- Footer52


Actually this is one of his better efforts. Believe me there are far worse.
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Sep 11 @ 5:31 AM ET
The 10 rookie thing is pretty crazy... even if you included the likes of Chabot, White, Chlapik, Paul, and McCormick, that still implies 5 of Tkachuk, Brown, Wolanin, Batherson, Formenton, Jaros, Englund, or Gagne making the team. You also have to somehow get past the fact that they currently have 17 other one-way contracts on the books for 2018/19... so the math doesn't really add up, which is hardly surprising.

Regardless, we can only hope that the penny drops at some point before July 1st, 2019 that veteran leadership for a team full of rookies means keeping players like Duchene and Stone... not Borowiecki and Smith.
randybobandy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kanata, ON
Joined: 08.23.2018

Sep 11 @ 6:20 AM ET
I think this is the worst news a Sens fan could receive right now. The PR person he hired this past summer must have been the cheapest on the market or Melnyk is completely out of touch with the fan base or thinks we're all naive and dumb.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Sep 11 @ 7:15 AM ET
Senators franchise reminds to the perishing Rome... a shame what is happing there - just a year after their great playoff-run, the fans and people paying for games&merchandise deserve much better. As seen here over the summer, Canadian hockey fans are the most enthusiastic of all, but some of their franchises are sadly managed really bad...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 11 @ 7:21 AM ET
I feel bad for you guys, I hope someone comes in and buys the team. You deserve better.
Shampoo
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.20.2018

Sep 11 @ 7:24 AM ET
Is the worst part of that video not that Eugene says he isnt going anywhere ?
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Sep 11 @ 7:26 AM ET
So at this point, maximizing the returns for Duchene, Stone and Karlsson is obviously quite important, and while I can see Duchene and Stone moving at the TDL, anybody giving up the farm for Karlsson probably wants as much time to negotiate a contract as possible. Is he gone before the start of pre-season?
Panzer_IVA
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.02.2018

Sep 11 @ 7:33 AM ET
actually astonishing what a trainwreck these 5 minutes were from melnyk
- Footer52

Looks like the tire fire just got a fresh load added to it...
Brandon
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 11 @ 8:00 AM ET
I much prefer silence to this non-sense, I feel worse for the future than 24 hours ago. Wake me up in 5 or so years
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 11 @ 8:06 AM ET
Is the worst part of that video not that Eugene says he isnt going anywhere ?
- Shampoo

I think the fact he says he is staying, definitely means he's going.

Why would he say it otherwise?

Everything is perfectly fine here.

I'd also expect Karlsson, Stone and Duchene to re-sign very shortly.

--SpatsDerp--
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Sep 11 @ 8:09 AM ET
Good point about some of those young players he references might actually be from the returns of trades - so maybe, just maybe, there might be a possible trade already worked out for 'a' player.

I didn't look at the video - was he smiling all through it? I won't look at it as some of you have said it's a waste of time!

Can the Rangers letter to their fans before trade deadline last season be referenced when talking about this video?
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Sep 11 @ 8:23 AM ET
Wow time for the league to step in and sell the team under the “what’s good for the Ottawa senators fans” banner and be done with this joker.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Sep 11 @ 8:24 AM ET
Wow time for the league to step in and sell the team under the “what’s good for the Ottawa senators fans” banner and be done with this joker.
- dozerD10


Absolutely.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 11 @ 8:30 AM ET
It’d be incredibly naive to think that the “rebuild” (a word he used multiple times) is on the upswing.


Trust me. The poop hasn't even come out of the horse to hit the fan yet.
sgoodwin
Ottawa Senators
Location: London, ON
Joined: 03.20.2013

Sep 11 @ 8:31 AM ET
In the age of Trump and Doug Ford, you can basically say absolutely anything you want regardless of whether it has a shred of truth to it or not. You don't have to answer questions and no-one will ever call you on it. Just say whatever the (frank) you want.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 11 @ 8:35 AM ET
Wow time for the league to step in and sell the team under the “what’s good for the Ottawa senators fans” banner and be done with this joker.
- dozerD10

Why? The organization is "like, totally solid". He said it himself.

The leadership within the organization is very strong.

The Sens are also "loaded up with draft picks for the next 4,5,6 years."

Euguene talks a lot of sense (imo)
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 11 @ 8:35 AM ET
Good point about some of those young players he references might actually be from the returns of trades - so maybe, just maybe, there might be a possible trade already worked out for 'a' player.

I didn't look at the video - was he smiling all through it? I won't look at it as some of you have said it's a waste of time!

Can the Rangers letter to their fans before trade deadline last season be referenced when talking about this video?

- Aussiepenguin


You have to hit bottom before anything really changes. I am feeling pretty good about today. I know there are still a few bad news stories to come. But, after that, the only way left is up. So, relax. Sens fans need to get ready to support a line-up that will quickly evolve into the youngest line-up in the NHL.


riceroni
Ottawa Senators
Location: e5, ON
Joined: 07.29.2009

Sep 11 @ 8:39 AM ET
Melnyk is a cancer and there is no denying that.

Anyway, unfortunately he's the owner and it's his prerogative to spend how he likes and shape the team as he desires. His vision and my vision are not the same for the franchise however and it stopped me from being a season ticket holder of 10 years.

I actually would support the Senators (by buying tickets) in a full rebuild. I can get over the traded pick next draft. One pick doesn't make the whole thing fall apart. If that's the direction they choose to go then great, I'd hate seeing Stone, Karlsson and Duchene playing elsewhere but I recognize that it's best for them and best for Ottawa to move on.

Get as much as you can for them.

Stone can maybe get you your 1st rd pick back from the Avs. Do it!

Karlsson can get Heiskanen + a 2nd

Duchene can get a 1st + a good prospect as well... Then keep Ryan, and Ceci and make them suffer!
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 11 @ 8:45 AM ET
Melnyk is a cancer and there is no denying that.

Anyway, unfortunately he's the owner and it's his prerogative to spend how he likes and shape the team as he desires. His vision and my vision are not the same for the franchise however and it stopped me from being a season ticket holder of 10 years.

I actually would support the Senators (by buying tickets) in a full rebuild. I can get over the traded pick next draft. One pick doesn't make the whole thing fall apart. If that's the direction they choose to go then great, I'd hate seeing Stone, Karlsson and Duchene playing elsewhere but I recognize that it's best for them and best for Ottawa to move on.

Get as much as you can for them.

Stone can maybe get you your 1st rd pick back from the Avs. Do it!

Karlsson can get Heiskanen + a 2nd

Duchene can get a 1st + a good prospect as well... Then keep Ryan, and Ceci and make them suffer!

- riceroni


Good man!

The bonus in this is knowing that Melnyk is not the guy with the $000 behind everything that is happening and I think Melnyk has taken on the dirty job of disposing of the dirty diapers on his way out. Melnyk may remain in a nominal role but you know the guys who are putting up the development money are going to have the last word on how the team is finally shaped.

If the Sens get Heiskanen...I would be very content.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 11 @ 8:59 AM ET
(frank)ing hell the TGOR this morning was so bizarre.
Brandon
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 11 @ 9:08 AM ET
In the age of Trump and Doug Ford, you can basically say absolutely anything you want regardless of whether it has a shred of truth to it or not. You don't have to answer questions and no-one will ever call you on it. Just say whatever the (frank) you want.
- sgoodwin


Jesus
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