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dirt4949
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: lombard, IL
Joined: 01.27.2009

Aug 26 @ 3:48 PM ET
They have elite scoring. they have Hossa and datsyuk
HockeyHunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa
Joined: 05.16.2017

Aug 26 @ 3:54 PM ET
They should be looking at either Stone or Duchene from the Sens in my opinion. A 1st from Arizona would hold a lot of value to Dorion this year as well as a couple of the Yotes prospects.
Newgod77
Boston Bruins
Location: IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Aug 26 @ 4:13 PM ET
You should get Bergeron and Marchand to help you write the blogs.
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Aug 26 @ 5:47 PM ET
James Tanner: The Missing Piece: Time to Trade for an Elite Scorer
- james_tanner1

How come when I click on the Coyotes logo the most recent blog that comes up is from last year?
If you are indeed the Coyotes blogger again then wouldn't it make sense to have them in that section, as opposed to having to click on the Capitals logo to read Coyotes blogs?
Just seems kind of lazy and unprofessional to not have that adjustment made.
EugenesAxe
Location: G-Town, ON
Joined: 02.18.2010

Aug 26 @ 8:31 PM ET
“The Arizona Coyotes have got a pretty good team”

Unfortunately, their competition are really good. Goaltending is avg. Defense is avg. forwards are avg. no playoffs for them. Again
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Aug 26 @ 8:37 PM ET
They should be looking at either Stone or Duchene from the Sens in my opinion. A 1st from Arizona would hold a lot of value to Dorion this year as well as a couple of the Yotes prospects.
- HockeyHunter

No one is giving up a 1st for duchenne.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Aug 27 @ 2:10 AM ET
Coyotes are still a non playoff team ...what did I miss that changed that??? Gal for Domi? or the resigning of OEL? Strome getting his chance????
i'm confused

- Leafs66


Young players tend to get better. The Jets weren't a playoff team either until they were.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Aug 27 @ 5:01 AM ET
Do I have to? Do I really have to agree with Tanner?

Yes I do. Because of facts. And I will give credit where it's due - since I totally give the insults. An elite forward - but more specifically and elite C would make a huge difference.

Arizona has a 'winnable goalie'. I'm not gonna go full hyperbole like you do with Rannta(sp)- but a Corey Crawford is a winning goalie because he's consistent and maybe 15th in the league. I know you hate Rinne....but he is consistent...he's a winnable goaltender. You don't have to have Carey Hasek to win a cup.

Arizona has a good blueline. I would never say top in the league, but they are a 'winnable' blue line.

Elite players are hard to come by. Panarin kicks ass and would be a huge benefit to the Coyotes but adding Panarin doesn't make them a contender(I define contender as top 8.... because in a league of parity there are 8 great teams).

Elite C. That's the need. 20 years post Sundin we lucked our way into a Matthews and got ourselves a Tavares. 20 (frank)ing years!

I agree with many of your Arizona assessments (minus the hyperbole) but where do they get their elite C? I would love to see them succeed. These ramblings are in no particular order.

Cheers Tanner. On a blog without hyperbole and to acknowledge some of your accurate assessments that we never would acknowledge because of the hyperbole.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 6:21 AM ET
James Tanner
Washington Capitals Blogger
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 7:54 AM ET
this is the best roster the team has ever assembled, and one of the best in the NHL.
- james_tanner1


he Coyotes need to take a bit of their future and turn it into an elite scoring forward, because if they add that to what they already have they will have a very good team.
- james_tanner1


So even though the current Coyotes's roster is "one of the best in the NHL", they'll need to add an elite top-end forward to make them "very good." Sounds about par for the course.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 27 @ 11:26 AM ET
How is the Russian community?
Panarin needs to know.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 27 @ 12:45 PM ET
Do I have to? Do I really have to agree with Tanner?

Yes I do. Because of facts. And I will give credit where it's due - since I totally give the insults. An elite forward - but more specifically and elite C would make a huge difference.

Arizona has a 'winnable goalie'. I'm not gonna go full hyperbole like you do with Rannta(sp)- but a Corey Crawford is a winning goalie because he's consistent and maybe 15th in the league. I know you hate Rinne....but he is consistent...he's a winnable goaltender. You don't have to have Carey Hasek to win a cup.

Arizona has a good blueline. I would never say top in the league, but they are a 'winnable' blue line.

Elite players are hard to come by. Panarin kicks ass and would be a huge benefit to the Coyotes but adding Panarin doesn't make them a contender(I define contender as top 8.... because in a league of parity there are 8 great teams).

Elite C. That's the need. 20 years post Sundin we lucked our way into a Matthews and got ourselves a Tavares. 20 (frank)ing years!

I agree with many of your Arizona assessments (minus the hyperbole) but where do they get their elite C? I would love to see them succeed. These ramblings are in no particular order.

Cheers Tanner. On a blog without hyperbole and to acknowledge some of your accurate assessments that we never would acknowledge because of the hyperbole.

- Njuice


Anyone even from a cursory view point can see the needs. That's easy. The question is how they should go about filling them. In that respect, Tanner is wrong in my opinion. Panarin is in his prime but 30 comes quick. The cost to obtaining him would be prohibitive. The Yotes should just keep drafting in order to try and keep the window open, if it opens, as long as possible and not try for a quick fix.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Aug 27 @ 12:45 PM ET
Gordie Howe in his prime doesn’t make Arizona/Phoenix a playoff team. Wayne, maybe.

And if they did trade for Bread Man, there’s no way he resigns. He’s stated he wants to play in a major market. In guessing NYR, although LAK would be an interesting landing spot.
Dahlmanyotes
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 06.15.2015

Aug 27 @ 1:29 PM ET
Gordie Howe in his prime doesn’t make Arizona/Phoenix a playoff team. Wayne, maybe.

And if they did trade for Bread Man, there’s no way he resigns. He’s stated he wants to play in a major market. In guessing NYR, although LAK would be an interesting landing spot.

- scottak


Embarrassing. Please take some time to understand hockey before commenting. 1) the coyotes are a better team than standings show, which is why half baked fans like you disagree with analysts and experts. 2) the Panarin demanding to go to New York was debunked a long time ago and old news. Sure he wants to go to a contender, but the coyotes will likely finish ahead of both LA and NY, and will raise Panarin (and other FA) eyebrows. Actually this has already been done, considering Van Riemsdyk wanted to sign but we backed off on money, Marion almost signed. But ultimately Chayka thought Grabner was the best value signing. Why would the top FAs be interested in a team that “Howe in his prime wouldn’t make a contender”

Ridiculous.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:34 PM ET
Sounds like Zetterberg going on LTIR shortly. A chance to reunite him with Hossa and Datsuyk.
Dahlmanyotes
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 06.15.2015

Aug 27 @ 1:36 PM ET
I fully agree this is the missing piece, but think trading Hayton and a first is too much. If we needed it that bad, we should’ve drafted Zadina! (And we do need it that bad, so we should’ve drafted Zadina!)

Panarin fits the mold, but he would need to sign the contract before the trade. And I would rather trade Strome than Hayton. I think Strome is a Ryan Johansson type (good!) but Hayton is a Bergeron/Toews type (great!).
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Aug 27 @ 2:09 PM ET
I would have put money down on Arizona taking Zadina.

It just made tooooo much sense.

Then you reach for a guy you could got 10.
They already have a lot of center prospects and they traded for a guy who they are going to put at center.

Stephan
Dvorak
Strome
Fischer
Galchenyuk


gramps
Location: Chandler, AZ
Joined: 10.10.2006

Aug 28 @ 12:17 AM ET
They have elite scoring. they have Hossa and datsyuk
- dirt4949


I was in Phoenix last week and couldn't find a Hossa Coyote jersey.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Aug 28 @ 12:31 AM ET
why trade for one when you could have just drafted zadina
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Aug 28 @ 12:32 AM ET
I would have put money down on Arizona taking Zadina.

It just made tooooo much sense.

Then you reach for a guy you could got 10.
They already have a lot of center prospects and they traded for a guy who they are going to put at center.

Stephan
Dvorak
Strome
Fischer
Galchenyuk

- classic321

yup or drafted a RHD as they have nothing coming in that department either.
Cloud
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Stockholm
Joined: 06.20.2012

Aug 28 @ 5:42 AM ET
They must really like that Hayton kid to grab him 4th and for a position where they are strong. So to suggest that he may be on the block is pretty idiotic
James Tanner
Washington Capitals
Location: North Cederbrooke , ON
Joined: 01.19.2017

Aug 28 @ 12:49 PM ET
They must really like that Hayton kid to grab him 4th and for a position where they are strong. So to suggest that he may be on the block is pretty idiotic
- Cloud



I would venture to guess that Chayka has read quite a few books on game theory and such, and in that regard it wouldn't ever make sense to take anyone off the table. Theoretically, everyone has a price, and the Coyotes are in a position where their window - such that it is - is now because so many of their best players are in that 27-32 range.

The salary cap is pretty forgiving to teams that want to roll the dice and then regroup. But that said, I don't really think they want to trade Hayton, your reasoning is sound.
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Aug 28 @ 4:15 PM ET
Embarrassing. Please take some time to understand hockey before commenting. 1) the coyotes are a better team than standings show, which is why half baked fans like you disagree with analysts and experts. 2) the Panarin demanding to go to New York was debunked a long time ago and old news. Sure he wants to go to a contender, but the coyotes will likely finish ahead of both LA and NY, and will raise Panarin (and other FA) eyebrows. Actually this has already been done, considering Van Riemsdyk wanted to sign but we backed off on money, Marion almost signed. But ultimately Chayka thought Grabner was the best value signing. Why would the top FAs be interested in a team that “Howe in his prime wouldn’t make a contender”

Ridiculous.

- Dahlmanyotes


You grabbed Grabner, yup makes you a top want to be place for UFA, no doubt !
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Aug 28 @ 4:21 PM ET
You grabbed Grabner, yup makes you a top want to be place for UFA, no doubt !
- Xizord


At least in Arizona one doesn't have to speak perfect French to be welcomed...
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