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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Aug 6 @ 10:35 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Provorov, WJSS Wrapup, Ginning, Wylie, Kalynuk and More
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 6 @ 11:39 AM ET
...I don't have much fear of a long-term extension not getting done at the end of the day.
This is purely speculation, but it would not be a surprise if the Provorov camp comes in with a demand that is north of the $7.5 million long-term cap hit on Florida Panthers' defenseman Aaron Ekblad.

- bmeltzer


I'm with you in believing that this is all but inevitable. I'm guessing it will be at least $8 x 8, and wouldn't be surprised (nor chagrined) were it more.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 6 @ 11:44 AM ET
From other thread:

I want someone to file a FOIA request with the NHL to see the chart they have for suspensions. Goes something like this.

Base suspension: 5 games.

Adjustment chart:

Less than 20 goals and 40 points: Suspension remains the same

20-25 goals, 50 points:-1 game

30 goals, 60 points: -3 games.

40+ goals, 70 points: No suspension.

Brad Marchand: Suspend the other player.

- MJL


This is great!
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 6 @ 11:46 AM ET
I'm with you in believing that this is all but inevitable. I'm guessing it will be at least $8 x 8, and wouldn't be surprised (nor chagrined) were it more.
- Scoob

I'm content with 8x8.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Aug 6 @ 11:53 AM ET
I still believe Provy's deal will be a monster but well worth it. Doughty's 10 or 11 mil deal kicks in this year or next year, Subban is around 9 mil. If we can get him locked in for 8 years at $8mil that would be terrific. EK should be signed before that as well.

I am not all that familiar with the thinking behind bridge deals other than one side wants to commit long-term to what is being offered. If both sides are far apart next summer, would we offer a bridge deal to avoid other teams making Provy an offer sheet (RFA)?

Thanks for explaining.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 6 @ 12:17 PM ET
I'm content with 8x8.
- Pixote Andolini


That would be a bargain, imho. And who doesn't love a bargain?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 6 @ 12:27 PM ET
That would be a bargain, imho. And who doesn't love a bargain?
- Scoob



Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 6 @ 12:52 PM ET
That would be a bargain, imho. And who doesn't love a bargain?
- Scoob

Yeah in 2 seasons it would definitely be a bargain. I can see the Flyers signing him for a league max contract. The kid is legit and his work ethic and professionalism is unreal considering his age.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 6 @ 12:52 PM ET
That would be a bargain, imho. And who doesn't love a bargain?
- Scoob


Oh really? And why is that?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 6 @ 12:55 PM ET
Yeah in 2 seasons it would definitely be a bargain. I can see the Flyers signing him for a league max contract. The kid is legit and his work ethic and professionalism is unreal considering his age.
- Pixote Andolini


I don't know how I feel about an 8-year deal at $16M per year.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Aug 6 @ 1:00 PM ET
I don't know how I feel about an 8-year deal at $16M per year.
- jmatchett383


Love Prov, but to me he’s more Timonen than Pronger - so to speak.

Max deal is a hell no. He will get a nice contract and likely be the number one guy here for years. It will be a lovely thing.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 6 @ 1:00 PM ET
I don't know how I feel about an 8-year deal at $16M per year.
- jmatchett383

I misspoke (misstyped) I meant max amount of term not the highest money contract.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 6 @ 1:02 PM ET
Also remember when a young Crosby tried to mess with Kovalchuk?


YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 6 @ 1:11 PM ET
I suspect a bridge deal will be costing himself and his agent a good amount of money. Just get a fair 8 year deal done and move on
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Aug 6 @ 1:26 PM ET


The flyers contracts under hexy have been wildly inconsistent. Some overpays and some absolute steals. Hard to tell what provy will be but younger flyers so far have seemed to all take team friendly contracts. Coots may be the best contract in hockey if he has another few years like last
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 6 @ 1:35 PM ET

- MBFlyerfan


lol! I love that album.

hey man, somebody stole your batt'ry
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 6 @ 1:36 PM ET
Yeah in 2 seasons it would definitely be a bargain. I can see the Flyers signing him for a league max contract. The kid is legit and his work ethic and professionalism is unreal considering his age.
- Pixote Andolini


yep - and he hasn't even reached his ceiling
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 6 @ 1:37 PM ET
Oh really? And why is that?
- jmatchett383


Why is it a bargain?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 6 @ 1:42 PM ET
Also remember when a young Crosby tried to mess with Kovalchuk?



- Pixote Andolini


That's funny. It's also the kind of thing that fueled Crosby to improve.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 6 @ 1:53 PM ET
Oh look... it's SCOOBBUZZ
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 6 @ 1:58 PM ET
The flyers contracts under hexy have been wildly inconsistent. Some overpays and some absolute steals. Hard to tell what provy will be but younger flyers so far have seemed to all take team friendly contracts. Coots may be the best contract in hockey if he has another few years like last
- Tfaehner



Really? Besides Weise which ones do you see as overpays? You might say Amac but I thought he was signed under Homer.

And even then, Amac's contract doesn't look nearly as bad as it once did.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 6 @ 2:05 PM ET
Really? Besides Weise which ones do you see as overpays? You might say Amac but I thought he was signed under Homer.

And even then, Amac's contract doesn't look nearly as bad as it once did.

- MBFlyerfan


The Flyers still have not recovered from the Boyd Gordon fiasco.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 6 @ 2:29 PM ET
Oh look... it's SCOOBBUZZ
- mayorofangrytown


someone has to carry the weight today
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 6 @ 2:41 PM ET
someone has to carry the weight today
- Scoob

Looks like it's going to be a slow day. Must be vacation week for the bulk of the rif raf
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.10.2013

Aug 6 @ 2:51 PM ET
Looks like it's going to be a slow day. Must be vacation week for the bulk of the rif raf
- mayorofangrytown


We need to start some arguments. Doesn’t have to be hockey related.
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