If one of the Olofssons gets injured or exhausted we could bring in one of the Varones.
- Der Kaiser

I was thinking a couple Mancari’s for depth just in case the 4th line RW Oloffsson gets hurt. But he might be dashed underneath the Rochester 1LW Oloffsson

Not like this is much of a surprise with two top 5 prospects in the entire NHL but Steve Kournianos ranked the Sabres as the #1 prospect pool in the NHL on sporting news NHL today.

Your a moran.
- jcragcrumple

He'd cut off your nose to spider-face

William Karlsson has requested $6.5 million in salary arbitration.

Vegas has offered $3.5 million. The two sides have an arbitration hearing scheduled for Saturday. Karlsson went from scoring six goals and 25 points in 2016-17 to 43 goals and 78 points last season.


Can't give him 6.5, he scored 6 goals in 81 games and 9 goals in 81 games before this, his track record in other leagues is below average.

William Karlsson has requested $6.5 million in salary arbitration.

Vegas has offered $3.5 million. The two sides have an arbitration hearing scheduled for Saturday. Karlsson went from scoring six goals and 25 points in 2016-17 to 43 goals and 78 points last season.


Can't give him 6.5, he scored 6 goals in 81 games and 9 goals in 81 games before this, his track record in other leagues is below average.
- SABRES 89

You mean shooting at 27% isn't sustainable?

- homiedclown

She always wanted a man in her life.

William Karlsson has requested $6.5 million in salary arbitration.

Vegas has offered $3.5 million. The two sides have an arbitration hearing scheduled for Saturday. Karlsson went from scoring six goals and 25 points in 2016-17 to 43 goals and 78 points last season.


Can't give him 6.5, he scored 6 goals in 81 games and 9 goals in 81 games before this, his track record in other leagues is below average.
- SABRES 89

The parties may offer evidence of the following:
(A) the overall performance, including National Hockey League
official statistics (both offensive and defensive), of the Player in
the previous season or seasons;
(B) the number of games played by the Player, his injuries or illnesses
during the preceding seasons;
(C) the length of service of the Player in the League and/or with the
Club;
(D) the overall contribution of the Player to the competitive success or
failure of his Club in the preceding season;
(E) any special qualities of leadership or public appeal not inconsistent
with the fulfillment of his responsibilities as a playing member of
his team;

I would say that he would have a good argument for $6.5m based on what can be presented in his arbitration case.

We are back to #1 prospect pool per Steve Kournianos...

http://www.sportingnews.c...tn8fb6mqnial16bxvtds5dacu

We are back to #1 prospect pool per Steve Kournianos...

http://www.sportingnews.c...tn8fb6mqnial16bxvtds5dacu
- RhinoFan

PROSPECT POSITION 2018-19 TEAM (Proj.) ACQUIRED

10. Victor Olofsson LW Buffalo (NHL) 7th/2014

PROSPECT POSITION 2018-19 TEAM (Proj.) ACQUIRED

10. Victor Olofsson LW Buffalo (NHL) 7th/2014




- jcragcrumple

Mikey likes it!

Mikey likes it!
- RhinoFan

This is gonna be a monkey paw scenario where i wish for Olofsson to be on the team, and then Housley switches him to the right side and assembles a 4th line of

Girgensons-Larsson-Olofsson

We are back to #1 prospect pool per Steve Kournianos...

http://www.sportingnews.c...tn8fb6mqnial16bxvtds5dacu
- RhinoFan

That’s cool & all
But he’s got Dahlin & Mittelstadt on that list
I guess they’re technically “prospects” right now, but since they’re both gonna be on our roster this season i don’t think they should count

Take them off the list, and i wonder where we’d rank?
Looking at the lists of other teams top10 guys,
I’d say somewhere in the late teens / early20s

This is gonna be a monkey paw scenario where i wish for Olofsson to be on the team, and then Housley switches him to the right side and assembles a 4th line of

Girgensons-Larsson-Olofsson
- jcragcrumple

Haha. Certainly the possibility of that. I am kind of surprised that one of the two of them wasn't moved or waived last year.

We will probably be disappointed by opening day roster, but hopefully by Christmas, once the wheels fall off, they'll start pulling youngin's up.

Girgs-Larry-Olofsson is the same for me as CJ Smith - Malone - Olofsson

Not a great 4th line either way, but I'd rather see what we have then waste more time looking at guys who will never excel or adapt.

That’s cool & all
But he’s got Dahlin & Mittelstadt on that list
I guess they’re technically “prospects” right now, but since they’re both gonna be on our roster this season i don’t think they should count

Take them off the list, and i wonder where we’d rank?
Looking at the lists of other teams top10 guys,
I’d say somewhere in the late teens / early20s
- jdfitz77

But why would they be removed? They're on ELCs so other teams have players who are graduating from the list, the point is that we have some of the best players in that scenario too.

Honestly, I think we'd fall pretty sharply if guys like Mitts, Dahlin and Guhle were removed. Still, a "lesser core" of guys like Asplund, Pu, Olofsson, Samuelsson and Borgen does give us a number of options that some other teams couldn't rival. I guess I think that we have more high end talent, which is more important, but may not be as deep as some other teams. Fair?

But why would they be removed? They're on ELCs so other teams have players who are graduating from the list, the point is that we have some of the best players in that scenario too.

Honestly, I think we'd fall pretty sharply if guys like Mitts, Dahlin and Guhle were removed. Still, a "lesser core" of guys like Asplund, Pu, Olofsson, Samuelsson and Borgen does give us a number of options that some other teams couldn't rival. I guess I think that we have more high end talent, which is more important, but may not be as deep as some other teams. Fair?
- RhinoFan

I don’t think ELCs is what determines someone is a prospect
Did u really consider Reinhart a “prospect” last year? I didn’t

I think if you’re on the NHL roster, then you’re no longer a prospect
To me...
a prospect means a guy we have coming,
NOT a guy who’s already here

Technically, Dahlin & Mittelstadt aren’t “here” yet
But we all know they’re gonna be on the Sabres this year

That’s just how i see it

I don’t think ELCs is what determines someone is a prospect
Did u really consider Reinhart a “prospect” last year? I didn’t

I think if you’re on the NHL roster, then you’re no longer a prospect
To me...
a prospect means a guy we have coming,
NOT a guy who’s already here

Technically, Dahlin & Mittelstadt aren’t “here” yet
But we all know they’re gonna be on the Sabres this year

That’s just how i see it
- jdfitz77

No, but I do think anyone under 10 games is considered a rookie by the league and should therefore by eligible for prospect ranking. Just because Dahlin and Mitts are going to make the team, doesn't mean they should be taken out, furthermore if they were removed, many other teams would have their top prospects removed as well.

Dahlin hasn't ever played an NHL game so to say he isn't a prospect seems a bit unfair doesn't it? Most of these rankings are looking at players eligible for the Calder in the upcoming season, which makes sense and would make both eligible for the ranking.

No, but I do think anyone under 10 games is considered a rookie by the league and should therefore by eligible for prospect ranking. Just because Dahlin and Mitts are going to make the team, doesn't mean they should be taken out, furthermore if they were removed, many other teams would have their top prospects removed as well.

Dahlin hasn't every played an NHL game so to say he isn't a prospect seems a bit unfair doesn't it?
- RhinoFan

I don’t think a rookie is a prospect
Again, to me, a prospect means a guy that isn’t here yet
So sure, as of TODAY, technically Dahlin & Mittelstadt are both prospects
But in reality, since we all know they’ll be Sabres this year, they shouldn’t be listed that way
Same for a guy like Svechnikov in Carolina, etc

There’s a difference between being a “prospect” and a young player

That’s cool & all
But he’s got Dahlin & Mittelstadt on that list
I guess they’re technically “prospects” right now, but since they’re both gonna be on our roster this season i don’t think they should count

Take them off the list, and i wonder where we’d rank?
Looking at the lists of other teams top10 guys,
I’d say somewhere in the late teens / early20s
- jdfitz77

yeah.. after this year when those two are removed we will be middle of the pack again..

yeah.. after this year when those two are removed we will be middle of the pack again..
- IndianaSabresFan

I just look at our prospect pool in the sense of...
“What do we have coming?”

Guys like Mittelstadt & Dahlin are already here for all intents & purposes

I just look at our prospect pool in the sense of...
“What do we have coming?”

Guys like Mittelstadt & Dahlin are already here for all intents & purposes
- jdfitz77

so is Goaloffson

Haha. Certainly the possibility of that. I am kind of surprised that one of the two of them wasn't moved or waived last year.

We will probably be disappointed by opening day roster, but hopefully by Christmas, once the wheels fall off, they'll start pulling youngin's up.

Girgs-Larry-Olofsson is the same for me as CJ Smith - Malone - Olofsson

Not a great 4th line either way, but I'd rather see what we have then waste more time looking at guys who will never excel or adapt.
- RhinoFan

If I were Housley, I'd frame training camp as a 3-way battle for Eichel's LW between Erod, Nylander and Olofsson

I like Sheary with Mitts because he gives mitts some speed and proven goalscoring.

So say Reinhart is with Eichel, and the second line is Sheary, Mitts and Okposo, give Erod, Nylander and Olofsson practice time with Eichel, and give each at least a half of a preseason game.

Best man wins, and ride it out for at least 3-5 games to start the year. One of those guys offers higher potential than Wilson or Girgensons there. I'm so sick of people coaching scared. Take a chance on a younger guy being good

We are back to #1 prospect pool per Steve Kournianos...

http://www.sportingnews.c...tn8fb6mqnial16bxvtds5dacu
- RhinoFan

"The Sabres have officially run out of excuses. "

If I were Housley, I'd frame training camp as a 3-way battle for Eichel's LW between Erod, Nylander and Olofsson

I like Sheary with Mitts because he gives mitts some speed and proven goalscoring.

So say Reinhart is with Eichel, and the second line is Sheary, Mitts and Okposo, give Erod, Nylander and Olofsson practice time with Eichel, and give each at least a half of a preseason game.

Best man wins, and ride it out for at least 3-5 games to start the year. One of those guys offers higher potential than Wilson or Girgensons there. I'm so sick of people coaching scared. Take a chance on a younger guy being good
- jcragcrumple

if i were housley i would be calling JB every day asking if he did his job and got eichel a real winger yet

If I were Housley, I'd frame training camp as a 3-way battle for Eichel's LW between Erod, Nylander and Olofsson

I like Sheary with Mitts because he gives mitts some speed and proven goalscoring.

So say Reinhart is with Eichel, and the second line is Sheary, Mitts and Okposo, give Erod, Nylander and Olofsson practice time with Eichel, and give each at least a half of a preseason game.

Best man wins, and ride it out for at least 3-5 games to start the year. One of those guys offers higher potential than Wilson or Girgensons there. I'm so sick of people coaching scared. Take a chance on a younger guy being good
- jcragcrumple

I mostly agree
But bc (right now) we have so many extra NHLers...
i don’t think guys like Olofsson, Smith, and even Thompson should be considered for the opening night lineup unless they just look amazing in Camp

As far as out top LW candidates go...
I’d have to add Berglund to the mix, but he could obviously be out 3C as well

I’d be cool seeing E Rod get a shot to play with Eichel
He had a pretty decent season last year,
and they’ve obviously had chemistry in the past
Can’t hurt to play him there for 10 games or so & see how it goes

I think 3-5games is too short of a trial
Drives me crazy when a young kid has a bad game or 2 and then gets busted down to the 4th line
Gotta give them a chance to correct mistakes & see how they respond imo

I don’t think a rookie is a prospect
Again, to me, a prospect means a guy that isn’t here yet
So sure, as of TODAY, technically Dahlin & Mittelstadt are both prospects
But in reality, since we all know they’ll be Sabres this year, they shouldn’t be listed that way
Same for a guy like Svechnikov in Carolina, etc

There’s a difference between being a “prospect” and a young player
- jdfitz77

A player will be considered a prospect until he meets the following criteria:

If a prospect is a skater (forward, defenseman) and has played in 65 NHL games or more before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday; or, if a goaltender has played in 45 NHL games before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday, that player will be considered graduated to the NHL. Conversely, if a player completes the season of his 24th birthday without passing those milestones, then that player will no longer be considered a prospect by Hockey’s Future, regardless of the player’s status with his NHL club.

An NCAA player who signs his first contract at or above the age of 22 has three years to meet the above criteria (65/45), while those NCAA players that turn pro under the age of 22 will be subjected to the criteria above.

European players who sign their first NHL contract at or above the age of 22 have three seasons from the time they sign that contract to meet the above criteria. Those European players below the age of 22 that have signed a NHL contract will be subjected to the criteria in section one.

Section one is the meat of the criteria as it will govern the majority of players that vie for a NHL roster spot. Sections two and three are simply an acknowledgement that some prospects arrive on the scene a bit later than their peers, thus needing some time past their 24th birthday to develop into an NHL-caliber player.

The graduated list on team pages will consist of players who are considered graduated to the NHL. A skater prospect may sit on the graduated list until he has played 130 games in the NHL. A goalie prospect may sit on the graduated list until he has played 90 games in the NHL.

NOTE: These are general guidelines and should be followed the majority of the time but certain players may still be listed as prospects if circumstances warrant. Also, for players that are close to either the 65-game (skaters) or 45-game (goaltenders) benchmark but have also clearly "arrived" as NHL players, HF reserves the right to remove these players from consideration as prospects and instead consider these players graduated.


http://www.hockeysfuture.com/whatmakesaprospect/