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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 27 @ 10:28 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Most overrated players - Metropolitan Division Most overrated players - Metropolitan Division
FinnGod
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: ND
Joined: 01.25.2018

Jul 27 @ 10:50 AM ET
Jordan Staal plays with bad wingers?? Are you kidding me? He played predominantly with Aho and Teravainen last season...I do agree though that Rask is a bum .
OzBolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 05.09.2013

Jul 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
Orpik's overrated?

I don't think I've seen much love for the guy outside of a strong playoff game or two this year.[/img]
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
CAR: Faulk
CBJ: Savard
NJD: Boyle
NYI: Boychuk
NYR: Skjei
PHI: Voracek
PIT: Dumoulin
WSH: Wilson
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 27 @ 11:05 AM ET
NYR: Lundquest.......Terrible in the playoffs
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 27 @ 11:06 AM ET
This is the best so far. Very entertaining write ups all around. Good insight on Simmer, Jenner and Rask.
Can't wait for Pierre McGuire to say how great it is for the Isles to have the best 4th line in hockey back together.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 27 @ 11:09 AM ET
NYR: Lundquest.......Terrible in the playoffs
- sammy87

Yeah that career .922 sv% in the playoffs is terrible.
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

Jul 27 @ 11:10 AM ET
The net front power play role on the Penguins is the easiest gig in hockey.




Try telling that to an NHL player. Let's see, you have 70+ mph shots coming at you and the refs typically give much leeway to the defensemen (note the plural) and even goalie for crosschecking, roughing, elbowing, and hooking you. It is a brutal role. There is a reason why few players in the league are willing to do this much - it is a good way to shorten one's career. At the same time it is essential to the success of a power play. Without it, power plays often reduce to just passing around the puck at the points and no quality shots.

Crosby actually used to do it but after his concussions and broken jaw he generally doesn't anymore. Hornqvist and Aston-Reese are the only two players on the current roster who do it. None of the other players do it regularly. True, it doesn't require a lot of skill but it does require some balls. As far as I am concerned, as long as Hornqvist is willing to continue to do this he is earning his paycheck. The moment he stops then yes, I will agree with you.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 27 @ 11:12 AM ET


Try telling that to an NHL player. Let's see, you have 70+ mph shots coming at you and the refs typically give much leeway to the defensemen (note the plural) and even goalie for crosschecking, roughing, elbowing, and hooking you. It is a brutal role. There is a reason why few players in the league are willing to do this much - it is a good way to shorten one's career. At the same time it is essential to the success of a power play. Without it, power plays often reduce to just passing around the puck at the points and no quality shots.

Crosby actually used to do it but after his concussions and broken jaw he generally doesn't anymore. Hornqvist and Aston-Reese are the only two players on the current roster who do it. None of the other players do it regularly. True, it doesn't require a lot of skill but it does require some balls. As far as I am concerned, as long as Hornqvist is willing to continue to do this he is earning his paycheck. The moment he stops then yes, I will agree with you.

- PghPens668771

Maybe 10+ years ago. It is a walk in the park now.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 27 @ 11:12 AM ET
NYR: Lundquest.......Terrible in the playoffs
- sammy87

Lmao 😂

Maybe the dumbest post ever, and it’s not for spelling his name wrong either
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 27 @ 11:13 AM ET
CAR: Faulk
CBJ: Savard
NJD: Boyle
NYI: Boychuk
NYR: Skjei
PHI: Voracek
PIT: Dumoulin
WSH: Wilson

- Feds91Stammer


Lol.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 27 @ 11:19 AM ET
Lol.
- arichardson22

sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 27 @ 11:20 AM ET
Guentzel does net front too. He had a lot of redirection/tip in goals.

And by easiest he doesn't mean its not a tough job. He means its something an average hockey player with the right temperament can do. And for 30-50 million in career earnings its not a bad gig for an average joe. The pain of doing it is like the pain of being a laborer versus white collar work.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jul 27 @ 11:41 AM ET
The power play was 4/31 in the 12 games Hornqvist missed in the regular season last year. The power play was at 28% with him in the lineup.

His 15 PP goals were third in the league behind only Ovechkin and Laine.

And if anyone can be a net front presence, why do many teams not have an effective net front presence?

arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 27 @ 11:42 AM ET

- Feds91Stammer


Siiicccck. How’s that old fart doin these days? Your whole team is overrated 💀
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jul 27 @ 11:46 AM ET
Guentzel does net front too. He had a lot of redirection/tip in goals.

And by easiest he doesn't mean its not a tough job. He means its something an average hockey player with the right temperament can do. And for 30-50 million in career earnings its not a bad gig for an average joe. The pain of doing it is like the pain of being a laborer versus white collar work.

- sditulli


Guentzal wouldn't hold up being a net front guy for an entire season. He's simply not built for it.

I think people discount players like Hornie and Simmonds because they're not the most skilled guys, but you sure as hell miss them when you get into tight checking games where pretty passing plays don't work. I vividly remember the Penguins/Bruins series in '13 when the Penguins needed GPS to find the net.

It's almost like people think the game is always played the same way and the rules are always called by the rule book.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 27 @ 11:46 AM ET
Siiicccck. How’s that old fart doin these days? Your whole team is overrated 💀
- arichardson22

Wrong. They just suck.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 27 @ 12:01 PM ET
Fred he said Lol because we had a huge argument on the flyers page yesterday and the day before regarding wether Voracek is overrated or not

EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jul 27 @ 12:04 PM ET
Remember that time Stan Bowman traded Trevor Daley for 38 yr old Rob Scuderi and then Trevor Daley helped the Penguins win 2 Cups? Good times.....FIRE STAN BOWMAN
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 27 @ 12:05 PM ET
Power plays are an illusion, hockey is played solely at 5v5.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 27 @ 12:06 PM ET

- Feds91Stammer


It's odd how tough Kronwall is when a player is coming out of the d zone with his head down and how much of a wussy he is the rest of the time.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 27 @ 12:11 PM ET
I just lost my house. I was so sure Jj was the pick I bet it all!😭😭😭
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 27 @ 12:13 PM ET
It's odd how tough Kronwall is when a player is coming out of the d zone with his head down and how much of a wussy he is the rest of the time.
- jmatchett383


Crazy thing was Voracek played the next night. No concussion
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 27 @ 12:13 PM ET
Wrong. They just suck.
- Feds91Stammer


Touché sir
emf687
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.24.2018

Jul 27 @ 12:22 PM ET
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