Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Rochester, NY Joined: 06.13.2013
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Ryan - I'm enjoying the segments you're doing here. Fun and discussion worthy.
Trying to be as objective as I can here. What I believe Ristolainen to be is not only a specialist, mostly, but he's also a top 4 talent that has been horribly miscast. As the hockey world knows, the Sabres defense has been a collection of misfits for the better part of a decade. He's been forced to play way above his level his entire career here, despite his unrefined defensive abilities. The guy needs 2nd pairing minutes versus secondary talent, and needs a stabilizing, at home talent (hello Mattias Samuelsson, in a couple years) on the 2nd line with him.
So in all, the guy can score and he can shut down middling talent. His assignments make him look over rated, not his abilities. He's a 23 year old average defender who's great on the powerplay. There's room for improvement, but any intelligent Sabres fan knows exactly what he is, at this point. |
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You nailed it with this list, man. Really well thought out selections
Ristolainen - all I can say is “amen”. Dude is awful
Ekblad - career trajectory reminiscent of Phaneuf. As a rookie, it looked like he was poised to rake in multiple Norris trophies. Now, he’s rarely mentioned among the best 20 or 30 dmen in the league
Zaitsev was a bargain in his first year, and then took a step back last season. Fingers crossed he can regain his old form |
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hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 06.23.2008
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o·ver·rate
ˌōvərˈrāt/
verb
past tense: overrated; past participle: overrated
- have a higher opinion of (someone or something) than is deserved.
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dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: long beach, CA Joined: 01.29.2014
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Risto is bad/overrated ... so are the Sabres overall ... Can’t believe Boston gave that contract out to DB almost as bad as Kesler contract. And the Leafs with that Zaitsev contract ughhh he’s a fringe Ahl’r he makes more than Montour that’s laughable ... |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Boston: Marchand
Tampa: Stamkos
Toronto: Tavares
Buffalo: Eichel
Detroit: Everyone
Montreal: Price
Florida: Barkov
Ottawa: Karlsson |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Risto is bad/overrated ... so are the Sabres overall ... Can’t believe Boston gave that contract out to DB almost as bad as Kesler contract. And the Leafs with that Zaitsev contract ughhh he’s a fringe Ahl’r he makes more than Montour that’s laughable ... - dozerD10
The Sabres are overrated? Who thinks they're good? Sabres fans don't even think they're good. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Boston: Marchand
Tampa: Stamkos
Toronto: Tavares
Buffalo: Eichel
Detroit: Everyone
Montreal: Price
Florida: Barkov
Ottawa: Karlsson - Rinosaur
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mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 02.01.2012
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Girardi and Boedker don't seem like they should be on this list. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind rating them highly. |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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Is Risto overrated?
The entire "smart" hockey world hates him and thinks he's trash. You can't be overrated when people think you're bad
Still glad he's on the Sabres. He does a little bit of everything. Guhle and Dahlin will raise the level of the d corps which should help him |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Is Risto overrated?
The entire "smart" hockey world hates him and thinks he's trash. You can't be overrated when people think you're bad
Still glad he's on the Sabres. He does a little bit of everything. Guhle and Dahlin will raise the level of the d corps which should help him - jcragcrumple
If anything, he's over rated by our coaches in part because he provides offense. And in part because no one is actually good enough to supplant him. And by the way, we're in 31st place. |
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walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita Joined: 07.14.2011
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Leafs fans asked this when Komisarek, Kessel and Phaneuf were voted as the most overrated players in the NHL.
We were told, yes they can still be considered overrated.
Hope that helps. |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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If anything, he's over rated by our coaches in part because he provides offense. And in part because no one is actually good enough to supplant him. And by the way, we're in 31st place. - TheSabresTaco
Yeah, Bogo is always hurt, so the next two RHD were Nelson and Falk.
The dude gets a lot of hate, which is fine. He has to show he's better. If that's a move to the second pair this year, I'm fine with it. He could still have his play elevated by Dahlin. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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I can't defend Zaitsev's contract, but he's given top 4 minutes because someone has to do it.
The coaching staff isn't over-rating him. They just don't have a better option. |
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OzBolts
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Halifax, NS Joined: 05.09.2013
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Thank god we have the option of putting Serg with McD. Serg switched sides really well in the playoffs.
Girardi should ride the pine. |
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Mino42
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Philipsburg, PA Joined: 08.10.2015
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Boston: Marchand
Tampa: Stamkos
Toronto: Tavares
Buffalo: Eichel
Detroit: Everyone
Montreal: Price
Florida: Barkov
Ottawa: Karlsson - Rinosaur
Wow that list is rough... |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Yes, the majority of people already think he's bad by this point. That still leaves Girardi overrated. - Ryan_Wilson
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mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 02.01.2012
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I can't defend Zaitsev's contract, but he's given top 4 minutes because someone has to do it.
The coaching staff isn't over-rating him. They just don't have a better option. - Atomic Wedgie
I remember Cherry saying he wasn't a defenseman during his first year. Sure hope he can right the ship. I don't think they gave him that contract though to be in the bottom pairing, he was meant to play top 4. |
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cragar77
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: MI Joined: 06.20.2013
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DutchSenators
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Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam Joined: 06.07.2015
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Boedker over Ceci? Interesting |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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- jmatchett383
It's one of the classic blunders! |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Wow that list is rough... - Mino42
Bunch of bums |
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warsawkid
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: west seneca, NY Joined: 07.02.2006
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you are an idiot, risto is definitely a top 4 denfenseman, his minutes just need to be managed better |
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OzBolts
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Halifax, NS Joined: 05.09.2013
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If I had the time and energy, I'd like to see how each of these players could be traded for another one on the list to find better fits for the players and teams.
... but I am reaaaaalllll lazy. |
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Come on Jack Johnson! Mama needs a new pair of shoes! |
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