Peter Tessier: Trouba asks for 7 million.... So the gloves are off...

What a terrible 'blog'.

Hope this isn't your day job..

Are you going to add words or opinions here? I like when bloggers do that, really adds to the blogging feel.

What a terrible 'blog'.

Hope this isn't your day job..
- jbold

Trouba just asked for 7 mill per. Can you really blame him for being speechless?

Trouba just asked for 7 mill per. Can you really blame him for being speechless?
- Wildschwein

No, Trouba just asked for 7 for the purposes of an arbitration hearing. There is a difference, no one knows what the jets are offering or what Trouba is asking for long term

You can't just base the comparables off those advanced stats. We've seen others on this board do that and they end up looking like fools. There are so many other intangibles that need to accompany those stats to even remotely give a fair comparison.

Durability is a big one for Trouba. He only seems to be able to play 3/4's of every season injury free.

How about his defensive partners. While guys like Myers and Buff have been partnered with liabilities such as Chariot/ Kulikov or Enstrom , Trouba has spent most of his time paired with good partners. Morrissey makes Trouba look much better on paper than the Jets liabilities which contribute strongly to those advanced stats. You would lose count very quickly at the number of times Morrisey constantly saves Trouba on poor plays both up ice and in his own end.

Leadership. Trouba is no leader like a PK Subban or Doughty or some of those other comparables. Those guys get a premium for sure. Trouba is known as the quiet type . No doubt about that.

Goaltending and team system. Helly had one heck of a year this year which helped everyone's defensive numbers. Maurice's system stresses defense first and the offence will come naturally. Its skews the numbers . OEL , Suter, Ekblad, and Weber will be the first to attest to that.

Bottom line is to make those advanced stats comparison as the sole evidence of Trouba's worth is not a very good reference to the complete real picture.

You can't just base the comparables off those advanced stats. We've seen others on this board do that and they end up looking like fools. There are so many other intangibles that need to accompany those stats to even remotely give a fair comparison.

Durability is a big one for Trouba. He only seems to be able to play 3/4's of every season injury free.

How about his defensive partners. While guys like Myers and Buff have been partnered with liabilities such as Chariot/ Kulikov or Enstrom , Trouba has spent most of his time paired with good partners. Morrissey makes Trouba look much better on paper than the Jets liabilities which contribute strongly to those advanced stats. You would lose count very quickly at the number of times Morrisey constantly saves Trouba on poor plays both up ice and in his own end.

Leadership. Trouba is no leader like a PK Subban or Doughty or some of those other comparables. Those guys get a premium for sure. Trouba is known as the quiet type . No doubt about that.

Goaltending and team system. Helly had one heck of a year this year which helped everyone's defensive numbers. Maurice's system stresses defense first and the offence will come naturally. Its skews the numbers . OEL , Suter, Ekblad, and Weber will be the first to attest to that.

Bottom line is to make those advanced stats comparison as the sole evidence of Trouba's worth is not a very good reference to the complete real picture.
- jetsnation

Trouba, the guy who’s played most of his career with Stuart?
Trouba and Morrisey shelter buff and Myers by playing against the other teams best and allowing them to play against lesser competition.
Subban a leader??? Really by all accounts he’s not liked in any dressing room he enters. Far from a leader

Though the comments are funny, I actually thought this said so much more without the fluff. I love it. Trouba is a beast. Numbers and eye test. (could do without the injuries but I think he's well worth the risk) I think WPG has such a glut on the right side that Trouba has been a luxury (maybe that's how he felt a couple years ago too) so they feel he should be cheaper but the fact is, many GMs would give their left nut for a chance to sign him up well over 6 mil, maybe even 7 if they didn't have to give up assets to get him. Chevy is probably the most patient GM in the league (although maybe he's getting too much credit because his patience has paid off vs. GMs in the past who've been patient and their kids didn't work out as well - so is it patience or indecisiveness). Anyway, he's 'wicked smaht' and knows damn well how good Trouba is and also knows he has him for a couple more years as cheap as possible. There is no way Trouba is there long term. Use him for a couple more years to make the best run possible.

It's too bad there wasn't a mechanism in the NHL that incorporated other NHL teams in the arbitration process. Sort of a 'backup' offer sheet thing. Other teams in the room saying "Hell, I'd give him 7mil right now". . . something to put pressure on the GMs and/or encourage dead-lined trade talks. I think the old offer sheet system was better where teams could negotiate compensation for the offer sheet rather than forced picks was better. Basically, I signed your player now you have to negotiate a trade.

Lastly. I think Trouba's case will go before the arbitrator . . . he already proved with the holdout he means business (and his agent clearly is game), he'll be awarded 5.5 to 5.75. WPG will take it and like it and this same crap will happen as long as it needs to (UFA time) until he's 1 year out from UFA. Chevy will say sign long term or I'm trading you.

I think after the Tavares thing, GMs will start doing this. Sign long term 1 year out or I'm trading you. Poile said that outright. He will never lose another UFA like Suter.

Trouba, the guy who’s played most of his career with Stuart?
Trouba and Morrisey shelter buff and Myers by playing against the other teams best and allowing them to play against lesser competition.
Subban a leader??? Really by all accounts he’s not liked in any dressing room he enters. Far from a leader
- Ross77

If you don't think Trouba's stats are not enhanced by having Morrisey as his partner the last two years vs having Chariot , or Poolman, or Kulikov at his side then you are delusional. Some of those comparative players Peter used also do not have as good defensive partners as Trouba so its not always fair.

Subban seems to be liked in the Nashville dressing room and as a team leader there so that is all that matters. Most fans hate him for his antics but not for his off-ice generosity. Burns, Doughty , etc are all leaders. Trouba is definitely not. He's a mouse in the dressing room.

Seabrook makes $6.8 mil until he’s 65 so

I did this right before I got on a flight after a busy day.

All good. I’m going to the middle of nowhere for a few days so if Trouba signs some one can guest blog in the comments

I like Trouba’s game but I think he’s closer to the 5.8-6 region. Of course the Jets are going to in low ball as they should but his point production should get him paid.

7 sounds about right

If he wants 7, then lock him up and move on

If trouba was given 1st powerplay wave opportunities, he'd be a 50+ points defenseman imo.

Pay the man, you won't regret it.

Nurse+Puljujarvi for Trouba

Re-unite the Finns!

I did this right before I got on a flight after a busy day.

All good. I’m going to the middle of nowhere for a few days so if Trouba signs some one can guest blog in the comments
- Peter.Tessier

You're taking a trip to Winnipeg?

Too fragile. Deal him now

when bloggers put up those annoying Corsi charts they are just being lazy

Nurse+Puljujarvi for Trouba

Re-unite the Finns!
- gretzky

Now that's a good trade if it wasn't to another northern Canadian team. Trouba is gonna sulk around until he is a ufa

Trouba, Ehlers, and a 2nd

for

karlsson

I know it wouldn't happen because karlsson would likely never re-sign there, but it's fun to make proposals.

He's worth 4-5 that's it

If you don't think Trouba's stats are not enhanced by having Morrisey as his partner the last two years vs having Chariot , or Poolman, or Kulikov at his side then you are delusional. Some of those comparative players Peter used also do not have as good defensive partners as Trouba so its not always fair.

Subban seems to be liked in the Nashville dressing room and as a team leader there so that is all that matters. Most fans hate him for his antics but not for his off-ice generosity. Burns, Doughty , etc are all leaders. Trouba is definitely not. He's a mouse in the dressing room.
- jetsnation

I can say that if you don’t think buff or Myers stats are padded cause of playing against lesser talent than Trouba or more
Pp time, you are also delusional.
I’ve read multiple reports, yes rumours but where there is smoke....that subban is not liked in Nashville room.

Trouba, Ehlers, and a 2nd

for

karlsson

I know it wouldn't happen because karlsson would likely never re-sign there, but it's fun to make proposals.
- sensarmy_11

Not only that, but even if Karlsson were to re-sign, that's a terrible trade for Winnipeg.

Not only that, but even if Karlsson were to re-sign, that's a terrible trade for Winnipeg.
- Scabeh

oh, I'm sorry.....I guess the best dman in the league is only worth trouba and a plug 3rd liner