Hawks need 1 extra d man and 3 to 4 forwards pencil in Hayden and Martinsin then only need 2 perhaps Rick Nash if decides he still wants to play trade 2 or 3 prospects and picks to tampa for assents that fill needs on the team center and top 4 d man top lw or rw. Who knows what might happens to me the seasone hinges on toews Seabrook keith having better year than last year and healty crawford.

I am writing this now - in next two to three years, when Oesterle is playing well, I don't want to see any revionist history people here claiming the Hawks gave him away, or that Q didn't give him a fair chance.

I can just imagine the posts if Oesterle gets traded to a team that wins a cup - you will all lose your minds!!!!!!



- dahawks8819

I really hope a team signs Nash already so the Hawks arent tempted...

I am writing this now - in next two to three years, when Oesterle is playing well, I don't want to see any revionist history people here claiming the Hawks gave him away, or that Q didn't give him a fair chance.

I can just imagine the posts if Oesterle gets traded to a team that wins a cup - you will all lose your minds!!!!!!



- dahawks8819

If osterle is ever on a cup winning team, his only accomplishment will be keeping the popcorn butter stains off of his tie, it won't be on the ice contributions

What do you think a deal would look like for both Skinner and Faulk ?? Personally i'm hoping for Pacioretty and Stralman as they're both expiring contracts correct?
- SoftServe

I don't even know, honestly. I just don't see CAR backing down from wanting Saad, but I don't think he should be given up for a guy on an expiring deal (s probably looking at E.Kane/JVR in terms of his next contract) and one with only a year left (and may not fit in with Q's system given recent history).

Anisimov is the only rostered forward I'd be okay with moving in general (though I think he's undervalued by some here), though I'm more open on the d-men (Murphy, Rutta, Gus) if the piece back is also a d-man. Anything else would be prospects moving.

-Entwhistle is not a solid prospect. He is far less than PPG in the OHL even in his D+1 year. He is a nothing. He will be 19 in 2 days.
Elbows15
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-The word ballsy has never been associated with Pacioretty. He is a goal scorer and pretty decent defensively. He is not ballsy. In fact, the knock on him is he disappears in the PO when the going gets rough.
Elbows15
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-For all the projections of Edsjell and his PO performance, it was Kampf and Highmore who did all the work. Highmore was causing huge problems for the goalie with Kampf right by his side. Edsjell was getting rebounds and putting them in.
Edsjell was not near the net BTW. Highmore and Kampf were doing all the dirty work.

Geez, how about something positive.
- gpulvino

Guess you missed the part about Highmore and Kampf, huh? Or Pacioretty?

Edsjell is slow af in a game getting faster. He spent most of his time with the Hawks cleaning the ice with his ass. I seriously doubt if he is a NHL player. Just because a prospect comes from a different system doesn't mean he is solid.

Or are you excited about Campbell, too?

Hell of a base player tho...
- Ogilthorpe2

True.

I am writing this now - in next two to three years, when Oesterle is playing well, I don't want to see any revionist history people here claiming the Hawks gave him away, or that Q didn't give him a fair chance.

I can just imagine the posts if Oesterle gets traded to a team that wins a cup - you will all lose your minds!!!!!!



- dahawks8819

Yeah, I wouldn't be too worried about that.

Minor news: Ejdsell has changed his jersey # to 16 with Kunitz coming on board and taking his customary 14.
- AEL_Fox

Well he might have to change his number again with fellow countryman coming back home, in Krueger. I hope Ejdsell gets something out of these switches in numbers

Golf clap to Stan. For now.

Good deal all around as long as the cap space is used wisely. Which to me does not include guys named Faulk or Nash, or a premature Schmaltz contract extension.

Would not mind seeing Patches for a year and a guy like Stralman on the blueline.

You either sign guys you build around, or can dump at the end of the year, or guys that meet both requirements.

Cap space and expiring deals equal flexibility. Something the FO hasn’t had in a long time.
- Return of the Roar

AA+ for Pacioretty and move him for a bucket load at the TDL? He doesn't have a NTC. Stralman move at the TDL as well although he has a M-NTC.

Love the thought of losing AA's money, although that would create a hole at C, and the pile of picks prospects a Pacioretty would bring and Stralman to a lesser extent.

Guess you missed the part about Highmore and Kampf, huh? Or Pacioretty?

Edsjell is slow af in a game getting faster. He spent most of his time with the Hawks cleaning the ice with his ass. I seriously doubt if he is a NHL player. Just because a prospect comes from a different system doesn't mean he is solid.

Or are you excited about Campbell, too?
- Elbows15

Nice job spinning your negativity. Never talked about being excited, just looking for positives instead of 3 straight posts pointing out what 3 players do wrong.

Hey Scott - just posted something below.

Hawks sound like their willing to help (see: help themselves) with a TB salary dump.

Would a Stralman + Mitchell Stephens/Anthony Cirelli to Hawks for lower level prospect(s)/late round picks(s) makes sense for Stevie Y?

If it meant having Erik Karlsson for at least one year (word is he wants an extension in TB as well) when the Lightning are primed to win a Stanley Cup... then maybe, yes.
- Justin Lowe

Bet TB would bite for one of those and a 2nd(?) sending Girardi (1 yr left at 3 mil) instead of Stralman. ...... Yes, grab centerman prospects,

What will Patches cost in a trade?

MacKenzie Entwistle is a fundamentally sound player with excellent skating ability and great size. He is never going to put up large scoring numbers, but is a guy who makes your team better and helps you win. A North-South skater with powerful stride and very good acceleration. He gets many shots on net when he gets possession. Strong in both ends and may get better in all areas as he develops as a right wing. He is 18.


Jordan Maletta is a tough and gritty right winger with an abrasive game. More of an up and down wing who possesses nice hands and a good sense of reading plays on offense. Aggressive player who finishes checks and competes hard. He is 23.

To me we traded the best player at this moment in time too make cap space.

Don't be afraid to think there is upside in an 18 year old or a 23 year old.
- wiz1901

Sounds like these players are John Hayden 2.0!

I like the trade. I read a lot of comments about how it was going to take a first round pick to trade Hossa's contract. With the moves Stan made this summer, the Hawks' first round pick is likely to be top 10 again, Vinnie is not worth any more than a very late first, and more likely a 2nd.

I am not expert, but that might have simply been a reorganization with only two goalies on the parent club, and not using his Cap hit in the figures for the newest cap space numbers.

I don't thin k he would have to pass through waivers until the days right before the season starts and you have to trim the rosters and leave open guys you actually want to send down open for claim.

I suspect he will stay up during the year if there is any inkling that CC is having a back step...

Sign me up on JT Miller too...lhe is 25, and signed long term he could help the hawks as a centre or wing, and he signed a decent number at $5,250,000 that it could be managed.
And who knows how far South the Trouba negotiations will go after arbitration...
I love the idea on Pacioretty for a contract like Seabrooks would have to go North to be able to keep him and don't know if I would want to sign him for more than an additional four years...and the thing about Pacioretty and Skinner, they have had a bunch of concussions...so you wonder.
- wiz1901

I will sign up for the JT Miller fan club. He is a center that is big and that can make plays either with his big body or decent of skill/hands especially waiting for trailers. He is also a pass first guy would fit perfectly between Kaner and Schmaltzy. He has looked good in both stops of Rangers and Lightning

Sounds like these players are John Hayden 2.0!
- D2D

That would be a win IMO. the Hawks should be so lucky..

Guess what - professional sports is a tough gig and teams replace players they don't think they can win with or are good enough. Both Hartman and Hinostroza fit into that category. You can send them a sympathy card but the bottom line is the Hawks didn't think that highly of either one of them. Because on the expenditure side of things, both of them were cap friendly. They just aren't very good NHL players.
- RickJ

I think that's a little harsh. They have both established themselves of being worthy of an NHL roster spot. Hartzy had a very good season two years and and fell back the next. Vinnie did what he was asked. Ithink they will both prosper in a change of scenery and getting away from their hometown.

I would do Stralman Cirelli in a heartbeat fills 2 needs wonder what the hawks would have to give up.
- Scott1977

For sure on these two. If this does happen, Stralman (righty) would pair up with Keith and play at 25 min/night but not as tough on Keith as last year as Stralman is much better and Keith would not have to "babysit" as much or at all. Dont know enough about Cirelli to comment.

What will Patches cost in a trade?
- Assman22

Enough to create a hole that he's not capable of patching.

I really hope a team signs Nash already so the Hawks arent tempted...
- SoftServe

Disagree. The Hawks need to sign him long-term with a NTC and NMC.

Neither Hartman or Hinostroza are any loss whatsoever to an NHL team looking to retool themselves into a playoff team in the toughest division of the NHL.

I hope Stanbo gave both of them some graph paper and a pencil before leaving so they can draw their new coaches a diagram of how they should be slotted and utilized.

Both of them are high end AHL'ers not players a team wins Stanley Cups with. Good Luck and Good Riddance.
- RickJ

one of my favorite posts I have read in a while. thank you for this.

Pretty hard not to like this deal, 14 pages so not reading all of them.

I'm assuming most are happy with it.

Like Vinny but he's just a guy with speed, and in no way was a big deal to give up, especially where they are as a team at this time and place. Maybe he'll turn into a great one, but I don't think so.

Cap room is great, and don't get too hung up on Kruger, if he's not anything like he's been in the past, he'll be gone.

I'd be kind of pissed if I was a yotes fan, but I guess at the end of the day, for them its just cap space that they weren't going to use.
- vabeachbear

It is my contention that Vinnie was going to get traded all along due to Sikura's progress and also that the Hawks got Vinnie re-signed early in the summer (to get traded). While Vinnie and Sikura are both similarly small in stature their games are quite different. Vinnie 's game is fast, faster, and fastest, like the Energizer Bunny with a little more bite and grit. Whereas Sikura has more play-making ability as you could tell by his correct reads and decision-making; he can see a play developing better whereas Vinnie will try to make and/or force that same play.

Bet TB would bite for one of those and a 2nd(?) sending Girardi (1 yr left at 3 mil) instead of Stralman. ...... Yes, grab centerman prospects,
- Mr Ricochet

Because Giardi is a lower cap hit and it's only for a single year, the return to move him wouldn't likely be as good as any of Tampa's top center prospects imo.

I'd love Cirelli but I'd think Tampa is only giving him up if Callahan is the piece being moved out - probably need more than just Cirelli for any team to take Callahan's hit esp since options will be limited somewhat thanks to his NTC.

Disagree. The Hawks need to sign him long-term with a NTC and NMC.
- DarthKane