Carol Schram: Development camp wraps, Stecher files for arbitration, Baertschi's new deal The Vancouver Canucks prospects wrapped up their 2018 development camp with a trip up the Grouse Grind on Friday, plus a look at Troy Stecher's arbitration case and Sven Baertschi's new contract.

Thanks Carol! They set a poor precedent when they signed Hutton

Thanks Carol 👍

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Thanks Carol! They set a poor precedent when they signed Hutton
- neem55

No kidding.

Thanks Carol! They set a poor precedent when they signed Hutton
- neem55

True; I didn't even factor Hutton in because he's such an awkward comparable. They got too carried away with paying him for what they hoped he could do.

There are rules about what's admissible as evidence at arbitration hearings. If we get closer to Stecher's date without a settlement, I'll look more closely at how much of an influence Hutton's number could have.

Thanks Carol! They set a poor precedent when they signed Hutton
- neem55

Doesn’t the arbitrator use league wide precedents?

Doesn’t the arbitrator use league wide precedents?
- Nucker101

Yes

Good and bad its all taken into account

I have seen nothing to indicate he deserves anything more than 1.5.

Enjoy giving your spot to Pouliot

Thanks Carol! They set a poor precedent when they signed Hutton
- neem55

ineptitude at its best.

Croatia 👍

One of my old nicknames...

Croatian Sensation

ineptitude at its best.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Yup.

Thanks Carol

The issue for me is he's accomplished what I wanted, low finishes, but he wasn't trying to finish low, he was trying to be competitive. That's why he's an idiot.

If he's fired I win both ways
- LeftCoaster

If you believe this, then you are as smart as Jimbo is articulate.

Thanks Carol



If you believe this, then you are as smart as Jimbo is articulate.
- Pres.cup

Now that is some good ol slander 😂😂
I for one do not stoop to accusing people of being smart 😜 Carol not included.

Doesn’t the arbitrator use league wide precedents?
- Nucker101

Yes for sure. But I'd imagine a precedent within your own organization would serve as stronger evidence/example. I'm definitely just making a loose inference based on limited knowledge of how they weigh things at arbitration though.

ineptitude at its best.
- A_SteamingLombardi

To be fair, I was one of very few that was not that high on Hutton after year one. He could improve, doesn't seem to have the work ethic... can't see why else Green doesn't seem to like him.

To be fair, I was one of very few that was not that high on Hutton after year one. He could improve, doesn't seem to have the work ethic... can't see why else Green doesn't seem to like him.
- neem55

I must admit I was in the other camp. I was high on him since his NCAA days. Gotta also admit i was very wrong & want him dealt. I do believe he can turn it around but he better be one of the fittest Canucks & prove to himself by playing himself out of it. If not he will have a short career & thats looking all too possible right now. Git er done Ben.

My assessment of Hutton is he relied on his skating and early success & the game caught up to him. This tells me his hockey IQ or desire is lacking. Some might say he needs a fire lit under his ass. I think its more subtle than that. Get in a scrap or play mean to draw attention. Cannot play D & not be a driver of offence or his days are numbered. Vanilla too much & not enough emotion is one thing but he’s at a crossroads & needs to add more elements to his game. Rough it up.

FYI he was a converted forward

He faces more puck pressure & his shielding off of the checkers is his glaring problem

Enough on Hutton other than puck retrieval & exiting our zone smoother & faster is a team problem needing to be much better. Its tough enough we lack scoring on D & not the most physical bunch. From there puck distribution & crisp clean passes tend to disrupt line rushes. Bo is ok driving the play. Hank was slow & methodical but gone now. Leaves us with Sutter and AG. Sutter is hardly the playmaker nor good at pushing the play with passing. AG idk yet so gets grace til he settles in if he makes the team. Linemates chemistry with JV looked promising & hopefully continues. Begs the Q who the 3rd wheel will be or be the leader of that line? EP?

To be fair, I was one of very few that was not that high on Hutton after year one. He could improve, doesn't seem to have the work ethic... can't see why else Green doesn't seem to like him.
- neem55

I find it funny and disturbing that everyone says Benning is great at scouting but they have trouble assessing their own talent right in front of their eyes.

Colin Miller avoids arbitration 4x 3.875

I find it funny and disturbing that everyone says Benning is great at scouting but they have trouble assessing their own talent right in front of their eyes.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I know I don't think he is great at scouting at all.

I find it funny and disturbing that everyone says Benning is great at scouting but they have trouble assessing their own talent right in front of their eyes.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Speaking of the current roster or UFA’s?
Its nothing special yet. Many stop gap signings & a few from trades. The better question is what the line-up will look like in 2-3yrs. Who is gone or traded & who makes the team from within is difficult to project. Then onto how good those prospects become is harder yet to predict. My worry starts as usual on D & their scoring. C is always a constant hunt & never can have too many.