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Don't really consider that an offer sheet. Selanne hadn't even played a game for the Jets when he was offered that contract. And, in many ways Trouba reminds me of Tkachuk. Tkachuk in his younger years seemed very entitled as does Trouba. - TheUltimateJet
Good recollection on the 1.0 signings Ross and Ultimate! I forgot about all about those signings for both Selanne and Tkackuk way back when. Thats going back in time, you guys must be ancient, lol. |
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Good recollection on the 1.0 signings Ross and Ultimate! I forgot about all about those signings for both Selanne and Tkackuk way back when. Thats going back in time, you guys must be ancient, lol. - CharlieDog
Not ancient, just have a great memory. Plus I am a huge hockey fan. I totally kick but in hockey trivia |
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Guys, over on the aptly named Jetsnation website you will find what I think is the best spreadsheet yet of what the team and the salaries might look like after the summer.
https://jetsnation.ca/201...or-contracts-predictions/
Near the end of the extremely well-written article, you will find the "post summer 2018" spreadsheet. One point many of us missed is the fact that Perreault . Little , and Kulikov all have no movement or no trade contracts which means they would be very difficult to move unless they agree. It's also why I think that Montreal might be one of the few destinations if Perreault is traded. While the numbers are pretty realistic I think Chevy will find a way to shave about $750K off the numbers proposed by reducing Laine, Helle, and Lowry down about $200K each plus some other minor tweaking. There is also risk in not locking Kyle Connor down now vs being more expensive in a couple of years.
Also Chevy would be wise to have a bonus driven model to both enhance performance as well as possiblly saving money down the road. |
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Guys, over on the aptly named Jetsnation website you will find what I think is the best spreadsheet yet of what the team and the salaries might look like after the summer.
https://jetsnation.ca/201...or-contracts-predictions/
Near the end of the extremely well-written article, you will find the "post summer 2018" spreadsheet. One point many of us missed is the fact that Perreault . Little , and Kulikov all have no movement or no trade contracts which means they would be very difficult to move unless they agree. It's also why I think that Montreal might be one of the few destinations if Perreault is traded. While the numbers are pretty realistic I think Chevy will find a way to shave about $750K off the numbers proposed by reducing Laine, Helle, and Lowry down about $200K each plus some other minor tweaking. There is also risk in not locking Kyle Connor down now vs being more expensive in a couple of years.
Also Chevy would be wise to have a bonus driven model to both enhance performance as well as possiblly saving money down the road. - jetsnation
I disagree with a lot of them but I do t think any one knows how any of these deals will play out.
-I just don’t see Trouba signing for 5 years or longer under 7. That’s why I see a 3-4 year deal around 6-6.5
- I think we get Morrissey signed long term 6 years x 5 mil
- Helle has only had one good year, one!! This should help us keep the number down. Maybe 5 or 6 years around 5.8-6.2
- Lowry has value around the league, it will be hard to get him locked up under 4 per year. Maybe we only do a 2-3 year deal at 3.5 or a 4 year deal at 4 mil per
- I think Laine gets done long term for 8-8.4. He should not see something starting with a 9.
All other RFA’s I’m not concerned with. I don’t either wheeler or Connor signing extensions this summer unless we pay up. |
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Keep Stastny.
Bring in EK for Trouba, Perreault and Petan
Send Mason and Kulikov to the Island for HoSang.
Kovalchuck 3 years @ 5
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I disagree with a lot of them but I do t think any one knows how any of these deals will play out.
-I just don’t see Trouba signing for 5 years or longer under 7. That’s why I see a 3-4 year deal around 6-6.5
- I think we get Morrissey signed long term 6 years x 5 mil
- Helle has only had one good year, one!! This should help us keep the number down. Maybe 5 or 6 years around 5.8-6.2
- Lowry has value around the league, it will be hard to get him locked up under 4 per year. Maybe we only do a 2-3 year deal at 3.5 or a 4 year deal at 4 mil per
- I think Laine gets done long term for 8-8.4. He should not see something starting with a 9.
All other RFA’s I’m not concerned with. I don’t either wheeler or Connor signing extensions this summer unless we pay up. - Ross77
According to this our #3 Center is making 5.5 and Lowry our #4 center is making 4. Yet you think Tavares at 10 is over payment?
Little, Perreault and Lowry all together will still not have the same number as points as Tavares alone. |
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I like these - TheUltimateJet
Thanks.
Hey Ultimate, do you think Comrie is ready to backup for the Jets next year?
If so Chevy has to see if there is interest in Mason don’t you think? |
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According to this our #3 Center is making 5.5 and Lowry our #4 center is making 4. Yet you think Tavares at 10 is over payment?
Little, Perreault and Lowry all together will still not have the same number as points as Tavares alone. - TheUltimateJet
Ultimate why do ou insist on making things up? I’ve never once said Taveras is an over payment at ten! I’ve said it doesn’t make sense for us! I’ve also said I’d start Roslovic at #2 Center and he’s making under a million. And how much are you willing to bet Lowry, little and perreault combine for more points than Taveras? Name the amount!!!!! You are on!!! |
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Not ancient, just have a great memory. Plus I am a huge hockey fan. I totally kick but in hockey trivia - TheUltimateJet
But you were wrong about Selänne, you said he didn’t sign an offer sheet. I said he did, I was right!!!! I could care less if “you don’t consider it an offer sheet”. Cause it was and you were wrong. To bad you couldn’t admit it |
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Little isn't only contract concern....how many teams are lining up to take
Kulikov or Mason's? a Self professed hockey expert on here (R77) said giving
Little term/$$ was what market value is....really? Let's be realistic here, Little's
best days are long gone, playing with top wingers in Ladd and Wheeler were a big
part of his numbers. And that's past history. Bowman said once that contracts that are fair value are tradeable, at ANY point in contract. I would like to hear the trade
offers Chevy gets in 2 years when Little is even less productive, continues to be
fragile and miss games, and cant even produce numbers playing with 2 top wingers!
Ladd/Wheeler drove that line, not little. Why did he give him $$/term before
contract was up...what was he scared of, that Little would start producing and drive
price up to 5.5 Mil....let them earn contract, not given out of some misdirected
loyalty. Enstrom, Pareault , Clitsome, contracts an albatross as soon as ink dried. And,
give me a break on this Pereault stuff already, he's massively overpaid for a
winger who scores in 35-40 range and misses 15-20 games. |
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Little isn't only contract concern....how many teams are lining up to take
Kulikov or Mason's? a Self professed hockey expert on here (R77) said giving
Little term/$$ was what market value is....really? Let's be realistic here, Little's
best days are long gone, playing with top wingers in Ladd and Wheeler were a big
part of his numbers. And that's past history. Bowman said once that contracts that are fair value are tradeable, at ANY point in contract. I would like to hear the trade
offers Chevy gets in 2 years when Little is even less productive, continues to be
fragile and miss games, and cant even produce numbers playing with 2 top wingers!
Ladd/Wheeler drove that line, not little. Why did he give him $$/term before
contract was up...what was he scared of, that Little would start producing and drive
price up to 5.5 Mil....let them earn contract, not given out of some misdirected
loyalty. Enstrom, Pareault , Clitsome, contracts an albatross as soon as ink dried. And,
give me a break on this Pereault stuff already, he's massively overpaid for a
winger who scores in 35-40 range and misses 15-20 games. - Moosejuice17
Look around the league at what #2 and #3 centers are being paid and then tell me how you find someone better than little for less.
Or don’t and just continue to rip anyone you want with nothing to support it. Either way, it’s all good. Have a great weekend
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Little isn't only contract concern....how many teams are lining up to take
Kulikov or Mason's? a Self professed hockey expert on here (R77) said giving
Little term/$$ was what market value is....really? Let's be realistic here, Little's
best days are long gone, playing with top wingers in Ladd and Wheeler were a big
part of his numbers. And that's past history. Bowman said once that contracts that are fair value are tradeable, at ANY point in contract. I would like to hear the trade
offers Chevy gets in 2 years when Little is even less productive, continues to be
fragile and miss games, and cant even produce numbers playing with 2 top wingers!
Ladd/Wheeler drove that line, not little. Why did he give him $$/term before
contract was up...what was he scared of, that Little would start producing and drive
price up to 5.5 Mil....let them earn contract, not given out of some misdirected
loyalty. Enstrom, Pareault , Clitsome, contracts an albatross as soon as ink dried. And,
give me a break on this Pereault stuff already, he's massively overpaid for a
winger who scores in 35-40 range and misses 15-20 games. - Moosejuice17
Also, mason has one more year and kuli has two. The sky is not falling! Mason if he can stay healthy will provide us a solid back up better than most teams and his cap comes off next year. If Kuli poops the bed this year, he can be bought out next off season. These are not huge issues. I’m not as big a Perreault fan on here as some but he is not over paid. Look around the league at what 40 points cost and then come back. Seriously dude, do some homework before coming on here.
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Ultimate why do ou insist on making things up? I’ve never once said Taveras is an over payment at ten! I’ve said it doesn’t make sense for us! I’ve also said I’d start Roslovic at #2 Center and he’s making under a million. And how much are you willing to bet Lowry, little and perreault combine for more points than Taveras? Name the amount!!!!! You are on!!! - Ross77
First of its Tavares and not Taveras. I am willing to put up $40.00. |
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Lot of talk about shedding Little and no-way we resign Stastny ... that leaves us pretty f_cking thin at centre
I'd love to be wrong but I don't see Roslo centering 2nd line all the way back to Conference Finals or dare I say Cup Finals ... not yet
Also surprised on how many want to trade away Trouba ... still burnt from his bumhole agent 2 yrs ago ?
Back to Roslo - if he rises to the occasion - give him 3rd line and put Little on a wing ... somewhere |
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R77, at least you've progressed from replies like hahahahahah, wondered if 77 was your age or IQ, you mite want to do a Little research yourself.
Little isn't a # 2 center...if he was, why did Chevy go and get one at deadline?
Some research for ya
last five cup winners
Wash 3rd eller 4th beagle
pit bonino Cullen
pit " "
Chicago Richards kruger
la stoll vey
how many 5.3 millioners do you see there pal?
How many of those 3rd and 4th line centers combine for 9.2 million like you had?
And how many other teams pay backups over 4 m.
and what diff does it make how many years left ? and albatross is an albatross
Common !! as one poster is always saying |
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First of its Tavares and not Taveras. I am willing to put up $40.00. - TheUltimateJet
Deal!!! |
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R77, at least you've progressed from replies like hahahahahah, wondered if 77 was your age or IQ, you mite want to do a Little research yourself.
Little isn't a # 2 center...if he was, why did Chevy go and get one at deadline?
Some research for ya
last five cup winners
Wash 3rd eller 4th beagle
pit bonino Cullen
pit " "
Chicago Richards kruger
la stoll vey
how many 5.3 millioners do you see there pal?
How many of those 3rd and 4th line centers combine for 9.2 million like you had?
And how many other teams pay backups over 4 m.
and what diff does it make how many years left ? and albatross is an albatross
Common !! as one poster is always saying - Moosejuice17
Spezza, Krieje, Stepan, backes, turris, dufresne, dubinsky, zajac, bolland, zibinjad, koivu. So by your logic All these guys must be better than little cause they all make more right?
Common, be better!!!!
And again about mason and kuli, settle down!!! Why are you so mad? It’s not the end of the world. Do you need to talk to someone? You seem very upset. |
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R77, at least you've progressed from replies like hahahahahah, wondered if 77 was your age or IQ, you mite want to do a Little research yourself.
Little isn't a # 2 center...if he was, why did Chevy go and get one at deadline?
Some research for ya
last five cup winners
Wash 3rd eller 4th beagle
pit bonino Cullen
pit " "
Chicago Richards kruger
la stoll vey
how many 5.3 millioners do you see there pal?
How many of those 3rd and 4th line centers combine for 9.2 million like you had?
And how many other teams pay backups over 4 m.
and what diff does it make how many years left ? and albatross is an albatross
Common !! as one poster is always saying - Moosejuice17
I have Roslovic as our 2nd line Center. But who was our 2nd line Center all year that helped us to a franchise record for points?
And how much are the the #2 centers making on your list here? Nice try though, actually it was very weak, again, be better |
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Location: Dauphin, MB Joined: 09.11.2017
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Deal!!! - Ross77
easy money Ross.
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I have Roslovic as our 2nd line Center. But who was our 2nd line Center all year that helped us to a franchise record for points?
And how much are the the #2 centers making on your list here? Nice try though, actually it was very weak, again, be better - Ross77
Our Stanley Cup window is open as long as Scheifele's contract. Last thing any Jet fan wants to see is that window be wasted. We need a legit #2 center behind Scheifele. Is Roslovic that guy, not right now. I would be comfortable with Roslovic as a number 3 center. Is Little that guy? Nope, he played his best when he was a forth line right winger with Copp and Lowry. This teams biggest weakness is up the middle and hopefully that is addressed this off season. |
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not sure about the " need to talk to someone" that might be hot stuff on the playground or seniors home. I didn't bring up Kuki....as you call him. Trying to educate you bit IQ77, so try and pay attention. centers you listed, all have one thing
in common overpaid and other than krejci...havnt won diddly. Duchene MIGHT be worth it....but thanks for confirming what I said about paying /overpaying.
And you even did it with Mason.....IF he's stays healthy, he can be a fine backup.
Way to go Albtr ROSS, another strike for the the COMMON man or come on man, not sure that you're about, other than comments like this.
And quit the Kuki, Mase, Wheels, Troubs stuff....I 've been around a lot of locker
rooms and that's hilarious to them to hear guys like you saying/calling them by
THEIR nicknames for each other.
And if I have time today, I'll show you what 35-40 pnt players make, and miss
15+ games a year....thought it was you that commented about 85 scoring one
goal in playoffs, and garbage goal in lopsided win, sounded like something you
would post. And that marvelous center that you say is good value at 5.3 , had so
much to do with the success of the team ( playing with a 29, and 44 scorer) that
chevy felt the need to go get another 2nd line center. Do you really think that if
he had a do over, he would sign Little early and not have $$ for Stasny. FYI, chevy is so impressed with Little's work that tsn is reporting that he is trying to get stastny signed to fill # 2 hole....and you are only one that has Roslovic at center, jets want him at wing for his speed. Hang in there IQ77, more info on the way for ya. |
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not sure about the " need to talk to someone" that might be hot stuff on the playground or seniors home. I didn't bring up Kuki....as you call him. Trying to educate you bit IQ77, so try and pay attention. centers you listed, all have one thing
in common overpaid and other than krejci...havnt won diddly. Duchene MIGHT be worth it....but thanks for confirming what I said about paying /overpaying.
And you even did it with Mason.....IF he's stays healthy, he can be a fine backup.
Way to go Albtr ROSS, another strike for the the COMMON man or come on man, not sure that you're about, other than comments like this.
And quit the Kuki, Mase, Wheels, Troubs stuff....I 've been around a lot of locker
rooms and that's hilarious to them to hear guys like you saying/calling them by
THEIR nicknames for each other.
And if I have time today, I'll show you what 35-40 pnt players make, and miss
15+ games a year....thought it was you that commented about 85 scoring one
goal in playoffs, and garbage goal in lopsided win, sounded like something you
would post. And that marvelous center that you say is good value at 5.3 , had so
much to do with the success of the team ( playing with a 29, and 44 scorer) that
chevy felt the need to go get another 2nd line center. Do you really think that if
he had a do over, he would sign Little early and not have $$ for Stasny. FYI, chevy is so impressed with Little's work that tsn is reporting that he is trying to get stastny signed to fill # 2 hole....and you are only one that has Roslovic at center, jets want him at wing for his speed. Hang in there IQ77, more info on the way for ya. - Moosejuice17
Hey Moose, you make some really good points. I think you could make stronger points without name calling. |
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Thanks.
Hey Ultimate, do you think Comrie is ready to backup for the Jets next year?
If so Chevy has to see if there is interest in Mason don’t you think? - Byfuglien Ate Me
I am unsure about Comrie. Hopefully he proves me wrong and becomes what Jets fans hope he'll become. I think at best he might become a serviceable back-up. I don't have a problem with Mason being back-up next year. He and Myers could both become our deadline acquisitions and they don't cost us anything.
What do you think? |
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