obviously everyone is still butt-hurt over the playoff loss. .and not rational.

Andersen was much much more than okay.... with the exception of a few games at the outset of the season...he's obviously a slow starter.

I said this a few days ago... move McBackup if you can decent return for him. Move Sparks if you can get a decent return for him... move Pickard if you can get a decent return. Whichever nets you a decent return you move for pick or a prospect or whatever. If Sparks or Pickard become the backup... look to give them 30-35 starts... keep Andersen better rested.
- BorjeFan4Ever

and a couple in the playoffs...

If you can get Andersen down to 50-55 games with Sparks or Pickard as your back-up over the next couple seasons you do it...particularly with Sparks seeming on the cusp of *potentially* establishing himself as an NHL starter in a couple years (around the time Andersen has 1-2 years left and would be a trade piece).

I'm not sure I would - and I'm pretty sure Dubas would be of the same mindset - expect a 35 year old career back-up to replicate career year stats in a limited sample size. Regression is likely and moving on or recouping any sort of asset for McBackup is a big bonus. Gotta think Lou would sniff around (not as a starter for NYI)....
- Deeps27

exactly... maybe Lou as a 1 year stop gap in the Island, or perhaps a CAP dump from Winnipeg for Mason... surely Winnipeg needs to get out from under the CAP owed Mason... might be willing to make it part of a larger deal.

(frank) YOU
- BINGO!

lol. carolina is going to be poop show.

you guys buy out martinook yet?

Sustr, would bring something Leafs are currently missing on the backend; Size.
- PatC80

He also brings being poopty with him. Which will be a familiar feeling for Babs.

He also brings being poopty with him. Which will be a familiar feeling for Babs.
- AdamFrench

He is like a taller version of Marincin, no?

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pretty clear the Carolina and possibly Minnesota are in "cost reduction mode" more than anything... and will be prone to dumb hockey deals... maybe Edmonton as well with Chiapet doing Chiapet things.
- BorjeFan4Ever[/img]

There's no fire sale.

Friedman suggested that what's happening here is that the Canes want to evaluate what their players are actually worth by shopping them all around.

There will be probably a couple that get traded, but most likely scenario is that they're just gathering more info on where they're really at as opposed to relying on what they think the players are worth.

and a couple in the playoffs...
- Aetherial

definitely. interesting though... he was fantastic a few of the games in the playoffs.. then very pedestrian in others.... fatigue, nerves or Gardiner.... not sure which

I think they should move Gardiner for his own sake... he's going to get savaged relentlessly by the media starting day in camp.

if there's a deal to be made for Brodin or as part of a package for Trouba... I believe they'd have to look at it

(frank) YOU
- BINGO!

fixed
- Tumbleweed

They really (frank)ing believe it.

Some of them actually believed we would have to add to Nylander to get Tanev.

Nylander +

Even before his second straight 60 pt. season, the suggestion is so stupid it makes me wonder how they even make it through life day to day.

Or maybe they just think every GM is ready to go full Chiarelli.

1)Empire
2)New Hope
3)Rogue One
4)The animated clone wars series all mashed into one continuous film
5)Last Jedi
6)Return of the Jedi
7)Force Awakens
8)Revenge of the Sith
9)Attack of the Clones
10)Phantom Menace


Don't know when I'll get to see Solo

lol. carolina is going to be poop show.

you guys buy out martinook yet?
- Tumbleweed

I'm not talking to you anymore. it hurts my soul.

definitely. interesting though... he was fantastic a few of the games in the playoffs.. then very pedestrian in others.... fatigue, nerves or Gardiner.... not sure which

I think they should move Gardiner for his own sake... he's going to get savaged relentlessly by the media starting day in camp.

if there's a deal to be made for Brodin or as part of a package for Trouba... I believe they'd have to look at it
- BorjeFan4Ever

I think they move Gardiner because he is going to make too much on his next contract to make the warts in his game acceptable. It is really just financial.

There's no fire sale.

Friedman suggested that what's happening here is that the Canes want to evaluate what their players are actually worth by shopping them all around.

There will be probably a couple that get traded, but most likely scenario is that they're just gathering more info on where they're really at as opposed to relying on what they think the players are worth.
- BINGO!

could be... but judging by who they hired as GM and that they hired a new GM at the expense of a franchise legend... I would expect changes. And Waddell's track record isn't exactly stellar

He is like a taller version of Marincin, no?
- Hockey_Reverend

So say the Lightning fans. They loathe him as does the coach it would seem.

I'm not talking to you anymore. it hurts my soul.
- BINGO!

it's a good buyout. just 1/3 instead of the regular 2/3.

They really (frank)ing believe it.

Some of them actually believed we would have to add to Nylander to get Tanev.

Nylander +

Even before his second straight 60 pt. season, the suggestion is so stupid it makes me wonder how they even make it through life day to day.

Or maybe they just think every GM is ready to go full Chiarelli.
- Aetherial

its definitely "Luongo Derp-esce"... geez... remember those Kadri, Bozak and 2x 1st rounders...

I have the THX remastered version from the mid 90s

No additional CG bullpoop


- TheMussel

I used to live in a room that had no cable....all I had was these 3 movies to watch. At 1 time I could probably recite the whole movie....in my sleep.

He is like a taller version of Marincin, no?
- Hockey_Reverend

no one approaches Marincraps "crappiness"... people talk about Polak icing the puck too much... and handling the puck like a hand grenade.

Marincin is too weak to ice the puck

I think they move Gardiner because he is going to make too much on his next contract to make the warts in his game acceptable. It is really just financial.
- Aetherial

I agree with this, the return will be not that great unfortunately, but with all the fans currently pissed off at his meltdown in the playoffs, it will be an easy sell.

I used to live in a room that had no cable....all I had was these 3 movies to watch. At 1 time I could probably recite the whole movie....in my sleep.
- Garnie

You could have gone to the library and got a book. Unless this was some sexdual deviant S & M poop.

I think they move Gardiner because he is going to make too much on his next contract to make the warts in his game acceptable. It is really just financial.
- Aetherial

yup. Gardiner would look great in a Minny sweater... and with the 50pt season he just had ... it should be sell high scenario (not a Tanev being high scenario like the Canuckleheads) ...

come to think of it... he'd look great in an Oilers jersey

The point is you homers on here bashing him. Unbelievable. People saying we need to trade him? For who?

Goal tending is clearly not this teams problem.

Lets start with Jake 'Dear in the Headlights' Gardiner. Or how about our go-to shutdown D: Ron 'play 2 minutes straight on the PK' Hainsey and Roman 'the puck is a live grenade' Polak

But yes... Andersen
- Hockey_Reverend

You forgot to bash Zaitsev who was worse then all the guys bashed

Han, Luke, Leia and Chewey are in a corridor on the Deathstar, shooting their lazerguns at a bunch of stormtroopers who are about 20 feet away - same corridor.

They are trapped. It doesn't look good.

So Leia shoots out a grate in the hallway, and they all jump in, landing in a garbage compactor. They then spend the next 10 minutes trying to escape the trash compactor, before R2 D2 lets them out.

What the frank were the stormtroopers doing during those 10 minutes?

They couldn't figure out that the rebels have disappeared, and there's a hole in the grate right next to where they were shooting from 2 minutes earlier?
- Atomic Wedgie

They were duped I tells ya...

or Bernier
- Aetherial

and Reimer...I didn't see too many goals going in from the redline this year or from behind our net...those 2 had that down to a science.

could be... but judging by who they hired as GM and that they hired a new GM at the expense of a franchise legend... I would expect changes. And Waddell's track record isn't exactly stellar
- BorjeFan4Ever

Waddell's just the mouth piece. He's not actually in charge of anything based on his comments.