WPG VGK was an awesome game. Both very fun teams to watch. Jets are certainly better, but just couldn't get it by Fleury enough last night.

If we go 'safe' at 14, I would prefer Hayton over Lundestrom. I like Lundestrom closer to 19.

If Farabee or Kotkaniemi is there at 14, don't hesitate. Then go Lundestrom at 19 (depending on who is still there). I do like Lundestrom, too.
- VladDrag

I'd be shocked if Kotkaniemi is still on the board at 14, but if he is, Hextall should just sprint to the podium to make the pick.

Right now, my top 20 are:
1. Dahlin (duh)
2. Svetchnikov
3. Zadina
4. Wahlstrom
5. Boqvist
6. Tkachuk
7. Kotkaniemi
8. Dobson
9. Hughes
10. Bouchard
11. Farabee
12. Ty Smith
13. Hayton
14. Kaut
15. Veleno
16. McLeod
17. Lundestrom
18. Kupari
19. Groulx
20. McIsaac

Obviously, Dahlin is in a class by himself. Next level would be Svetch and Zadina who I both think will be can't miss, 1st line forwards. At just a slight drop off from those 2 are numbers 4-8 on my board, I believe they are all can't miss NHL players, and likely above average ones at that, but I guarantee that any of them will be star players.

The next group on my board would be #9-13. Again, I think all 5 are pretty close to can't miss NHL players, but they may just end up being average players. It's just too hard to tell with that group as each player has some flaws.

From 14 on, it's pretty much a crap shoot. Besides the 7 I have listed,there are probably another 5-8 guys that fit into that group. Any one of them could end up a star NHL player, but just as easily, any one of them can be a bust. For this reason, I would do one of 2 things with the Flyers #19 pick. Either package it with other picks/prospects and try to get into the top 10-12 or trade the pick for an established NHL player under the age of 27.

I'd be shocked if Kotkaniemi is still on the board at 14, but if he is, Hextall should just sprint to the podium to make the pick.

Right now, my top 20 are:
1. Dahlin (duh)
2. Svetchnikov
3. Zadina
4. Wahlstrom
5. Boqvist
6. Tkachuk
7. Kotkaniemi
8. Dobson
9. Hughes
10. Bouchard
11. Farabee
12. Ty Smith
13. Hayton
14. Kaut
15. Veleno
16. McLeod
17. Lundestrom
18. Kupari
19. Groulx
20. McIsaac

Obviously, Dahlin is in a class by himself. Next level would be Svetch and Zadina who I both think will be can't miss, 1st line forwards. At just a slight drop off from those 2 are numbers 4-8 on my board, I believe they are all can't miss NHL players, and likely above average ones at that, but I guarantee that any of them will be star players.

The next group on my board would be #9-13. Again, I think all 5 are pretty close to can't miss NHL players, but they may just end up being average players. It's just too hard to tell with that group as each player has some flaws.

From 14 on, it's pretty much a crap shoot. Besides the 7 I have listed,there are probably another 5-8 guys that fit into that group. Any one of them could end up a star NHL player, but just as easily, any one of them can be a bust. For this reason, I would do one of 2 things with the Flyers #19 pick. Either package it with other picks/prospects and try to get into the top 10-12 or trade the pick for an established NHL player under the age of 27.
- BiggE

And probably all the reasons stated above is why they wont be able to package both picks to move in to the top 8.

And probably all the reasons stated above is why they wont be able to package both picks to move in to the top 8.
- MBFlyerfan

Yup. I think Edmonton is a legit target at #10. Chia isn't the sharpest tool in the shed and they badly could use help at D and on the wing. I like Hagg, but I don't love him and I don't see him ever being more than a #4 guy at best due to his lack of puck skills. I'd offer #19 and Hagg for #10 and a 3rd in 2019. I can see Chia making that kind of deal. It also eases up the numbers crunch which will be coming for the Flyers D in the next expansion draft.

At number 10, you at least have a legit chance of one of the top 8 falling a couple spots and either way, with both 10 and 14, you are going to come away with 2 very good prospects.

https://twitter.com/Kevan...status/996973492766588929

Seriously love this guy now that the coleslaw and fries smell has worn off him

Yup. I think Edmonton is a legit target at #10. Chia isn't the sharpest tool in the shed and they badly could use help at D and on the wing. I like Hagg, but I don't love him and I don't see him ever being more than a #4 guy at best due to his lack of puck skills. I'd offer #19 and Hagg for #10 and a 3rd in 2019. I can see Chia making that kind of deal. It also eases up the numbers crunch which will be coming for the Flyers D in the next expansion draft.

At number 10, you at least have a legit chance of one of the top 8 falling a couple spots and either way, with both 10 and 14, you are going to come away with 2 very good prospects.
- BiggE

I think I would just stay at 14/19, tbh, unless someone ridiculous falls.

Yup. I think Edmonton is a legit target at #10. Chia isn't the sharpest tool in the shed and they badly could use help at D and on the wing. I like Hagg, but I don't love him and I don't see him ever being more than a #4 guy at best due to his lack of puck skills. I'd offer #19 and Hagg for #10 and a 3rd in 2019. I can see Chia making that kind of deal. It also eases up the numbers crunch which will be coming for the Flyers D in the next expansion draft.

At number 10, you at least have a legit chance of one of the top 8 falling a couple spots and either way, with both 10 and 14, you are going to come away with 2 very good prospects.
- BiggE

or it gets rid of the guy you're going to lose in the expansion draft

I think I would just stay at 14/19, tbh, unless someone ridiculous falls.
- VladDrag

That's fair, I just think that this draft really thins out after the top 8-12 players. You may land a solid NHL player, and perhaps even a star with 14 or 19, but odds are probably just as good that at least one of the 2 ends up just being a role player or even a bust.

That's fair, I just think that this draft really thins out after the top 8-12 players. You may land a solid NHL player, and perhaps even a star with 14 or 19, but odds are probably just as good that at least one of the 2 ends up just being a role player or even a bust.
- BiggE

At this point, it is a weird spot right now, for sure. Unless someone falls you are in a weird spot where you might be reaching on someone just to get the guy you really want. I still really hope 14 works out

or it gets rid of the guy you're going to lose in the expansion draft
- YuenglingJagr

Maybe. D is going to tricky if none of the kids are moved and you are going with the 7-3-1 format. Provorov is a no brainer and you'd have think Ghost is pretty damned close. So that leaves one spot for Morin, Hagg, Myers and Sanheim. Going to be interesting to say the least.

At this point, it is a weird spot right now, for sure. Unless someone falls you are in a weird spot where you might be reaching on someone just to get the guy you really want. I still really hope 14 works out
- YuenglingJagr

I'd absolutely hold on to 14, #19 is the one I'd try to move up with.

Maybe. D is going to tricky if none of the kids are moved and you are going with the 7-3-1 format. Provorov is a no brainer and you'd have think Ghost is pretty damned close. So that leaves one spot for Morin, Hagg, Myers and Sanheim. Going to be interesting to say the least.
- BiggE

which is why I want future picks to pay for keeping the team they actually want together

which is why I want future picks to pay for keeping the team they actually want together
- YuenglingJagr

I'd absolutely hold on to 14, #19 is the one I'd try to move up with.
- BiggE

I would rather move back with 19 than try to use it to move up.

To be clear - I do agree with you that after the top 8ish picks you see a slight drop, and after 15ish you see another drop, so if the Flyers were to move up, I wouldn't be too upset.

I would rather move back with 19 than try to use it to move up.
- VladDrag

agree...unless you use players, it is rarely worth paying the price to move up

I'd be shocked if Kotkaniemi is still on the board at 14, but if he is, Hextall should just sprint to the podium to make the pick.

Right now, my top 20 are:
1. Dahlin (duh)
2. Svetchnikov
3. Zadina
4. Wahlstrom
5. Boqvist
6. Tkachuk
7. Kotkaniemi
8. Dobson
9. Hughes
10. Bouchard
11. Farabee
12. Ty Smith
13. Hayton
14. Kaut
15. Veleno
16. McLeod
17. Lundestrom
18. Kupari
19. Groulx
20. McIsaac
- BiggE

Denisenko?

Denisenko?
- YuenglingJagr

I don't rank players because I don't see enough of them to definitively rank them, but I do like Denisenko, as well as Kravtsov. I've actually watched game film of both of those guys...

With Denisenko I would like him more at 19

I don't rank players because I don't see enough of them to definitively rank them, but I do like Denisenko, as well as Kravtsov. I've actually watched game film of both of those guys...

With Denisenko I would like him more at 19
- VladDrag

I don't bother with it either, but I like him more than some others on that list

I wouldn’t have Merkley on my board. Flyers wouldn’t draft him in a million years anyway. I simply don’t see an NHL defenseman. You could forgive him not being great defensively, except he’s dumb offensively too, in spite of the scoring. He’s just the definition of a juniors player with talent and rocks for brain and zero structure.
- Mononoke

Thoughts on Serron Noel?

Denisenko?
- YuenglingJagr

Would be in the next 5

Yup. I think Edmonton is a legit target at #10. Chia isn't the sharpest tool in the shed and they badly could use help at D and on the wing. I like Hagg, but I don't love him and I don't see him ever being more than a #4 guy at best due to his lack of puck skills. I'd offer #19 and Hagg for #10 and a 3rd in 2019. I can see Chia making that kind of deal. It also eases up the numbers crunch which will be coming for the Flyers D in the next expansion draft.

At number 10, you at least have a legit chance of one of the top 8 falling a couple spots and either way, with both 10 and 14, you are going to come away with 2 very good prospects.
- BiggE

If somehow they COULD package 14 and 19 to move up to the top 8, would you?

If somehow they COULD package 14 and 19 to move up to the top 8, would you?
- MBFlyerfan

Personally, I rather package 14 and a roster player to move up (maybe add a later pick). And then trade 19 for a current NHL roster player if possible.

If somehow they COULD package 14 and 19 to move up to the top 8, would you?
- MBFlyerfan

Someone better be dropping that I really like, if I was Hextall.

Hextall can't stay pat, we need to improve to win a playoff series. Certainly, signing John Tavaras is an answer, but few teams want to take on an $ 8 mil for possibly 8 years. It could be worse.

Why not make both JVR and Evander Kane offers. If both sign, we are dumping two contracts, hopefully one goaltender and saving money there. Get rid of the St. Louis guy, buy out the last yr, we can afford both.

Any chance. Certainly, both those guys get offers from others teams too. Tavares may not, only his home team.

Hextall can't stay pat, we need to improve to win a playoff series. Certainly, signing John Tavaras is an answer, but few teams want to take on an $ 8 mil for possibly 8 years. It could be worse.
- atlasgibbs

JT will get around $11m AAV for 7 years. Only the Islanders can give him 8 years.