Another podcast discussing the announcement today. Burish has some really good insight from both the Hawks' and other teams' usual approaches. They discuss where the disconnect exists between Q and StanBo and what each needs to do to fix the problem. Bur is also 100% clear that the PP is a coaching problem and the biggest issue is their approach to zone entries.

http://www.nbcsports.com/...retaining-stan-bowman-and
- pdx2ord

I like Burrish on the broadcasts. But I have to at least question what he would know about a PP, having very few shifts if any on one. Although anything different might just be better.

Hey Justin,

Hope everything is well with your family.

I was talking to someone I know in the Hawks organization last weekend - here were a couple of highlights of the conversation that I can share.....

First was the revelation that McDonough was leaning towards not firing either Q or Bowman this summer. He believes that the past decade of success is something worth remaining loyal to - and wants to give them the opportunity to right the ship themselves. I was asked not to share it until McDonough spoke first.

Second was about the team's defense. I know this will rub a lot of the posters here the wrong way, but don't expect them to do much this summer to improve the group. Some interesting thoughts about the young d-men here - they have probably the toughest job in the NHL. Not only do they have to acclimate to the speed and physicality, but more importantly - to actually learn how to blend seamlessly with their defensive pairing. This is why young d-men are left in the AHL longer than forwards - it's just not that easy.

Go back to 2005-2007 and think about Keith and Seabrook. Both players showed a lot of future upside, but it really took them a couple of years learning to play with and for each other to become a true #1 pairing. And also think about Hjalmarsson - he really became a top lockdown defenseman once they acquired Oduya and they got a chance to figure each other out and really compliment each other so perfectly. After Oduya broke his foot, he was not the same again - and Hjamlarsson's game started to go south from there. I know Q liked pairing him with Keith, but they really just did not gel as well together as a top unit.

So we fast forward to today's group. The Hawks have some promising young defensemen, but they are going to need time and adjustments to find who they pair best with - and if there are pairings to be made with this group that will work for a team that wants to compete for a cup again.

It was said that bringing other d-men into this group may not be what will fix it in the next two years any better than figuring out what they already have. And there is a strong belief that the right combinations are there to be had - the players themselves need to learn and adapt to it. And the only way it happens is to keep playing.

It was also said that a proven veteran goalie will be brought in this summer - just not sure if it will be by trade or free agency. They will not be caught with their pants down again - now that the worst fears about Crawford's reliability have been realized.

Probably not the answers you wanted to hear, but this is most likely the direction they will be heading this summer. And all the posters keep this in mind - no team is going to trade to the Hawks great, young, cost controlled d-men. Any team that has them and wants to move them will be asking a king's ransom - and the likes of Anisimov, Jurco, Gustafsson and Duclair are not going to get it done. It's a nice fantasy, so don't hold your breath for it.
- dahawks8819

While you're at it, find out the strategy of never clearing out the front of their own net and please share it.
Thanks.

Sources are telling me that you're still killing it with your outstanding comments on this message board.
- Justin Lowe

How is the Cat for Kelfbust trade working for ya?


Quinn Hughes the best D-man in this draft after Dahlin.
Fast,greta puck handling, with great vision.
All you crying for more size have 0 clue!!
Game has moved on from size. Hawks need a puck skating D-man just like Hughes.
No more big slow guys like Seabiscut & Murphy.

Carry on with your sources.....

Yes - that's right loser - that's all you got.

If I had told you last week that neither Bowman or Quenneville were going to be fired after this year - you would have laughed at me - but in the end - as usual - I would have proven to be right - and you would be wrong.

I do laugh at your little rantings - your ignorance shows on a daily basis.

When this page goes without any input from you, it is a much better read.

And what pisses you off the most is I have actual contacts within and outside this organization - while you sit in your tiny, dirty one bedroom sh1thole - wishing you knew even 10 percent of what I do.

So suck on it loser - suck it long and suck it hard!!!!!
- dahawks8819

Not a huge Enzo fan but his reads to have some good points once in a while.

Meanwhile Dahawks1988 is a High School hockey palyer who thinks he knows people or Hockey in general is just laughable.

The guy knows NOBODY. A ture dreamer in his own World.

Not only do you suck at Hockey & knowledge of the game YOU SUCK AT LIFE!!

I've seen this name mentioned before. If Adam Oates is the be all, end all then why is he not a head coach or assistant now? My gosh, the guy missed the playoffs with a Caps team that had Ovechkin, Backstrom, Holtby and other really good players. Sorry, it's kind of easy to coach up a power play that has a young, uninjured Stamkos and Marty St. Louis or a young, uninjured Zach Parise, Kovalchuk and Brodeur in net.

The best I can tell he's at home twiddling his thumbs I guess for reasons.
- Rota's Rooter

The HAWKS have the players for a great PP .I think Oates or many other could find away .Joel has been at it for how long and the PP is a mess every year . Coaching in the NHL seems to be a little click ,look at Ted Nolan coach of the year never heard of again

The Hawks brass gets paid for being ready for bumps in the road. Every team has them. If they didn't know Hossa's condition in advance they should be investigated by Mueller. The Hawks brass completely failed to be ready to replace these and other lost players. Worst regime in the NHL IMO. Proof is on the ice.
- Savoy

Of all the professional teams on the planet, name one that makes every move perfectly? The bar your setting is unobtainable.

this comment section is on fire. Lots of really big internet muscles being flexed.

How is the Cat for Kelfbust trade working for ya?


Quinn Hughes the best D-man in this draft after Dahlin.
Fast,greta puck handling, with great vision.
All you crying for more size have 0 clue!!
Game has moved on from size. Hawks need a puck skating D-man just like Hughes.
No more big slow guys like Seabiscut & Murphy.

Carry on with your sources.....



- Goalie-33

Are you OK, do you need someone to talk to? We are there for you if you need someone.

Not a huge Enzo fan but his reads to have some good points once in a while.

Meanwhile Dahawks1988 is a High School hockey palyer who thinks he knows people or Hockey in general is just laughable.

The guy knows NOBODY. A ture dreamer in his own World.

Not only do you suck at Hockey & knowledge of the game YOU SUCK AT LIFE!!

- Goalie-33

You can get yourself banned by going ovetboard, ssyi g you suck at life. You are the one lacking perspective and maturity when you go there. This is not a slug em fight using words site that the rest of us want to see. Rather balanced, fair observation and analysis should rue the day. You need to step up and be mature and have more respect. Personal attacks and insulting name calling is against the rules of this board. Do not continue name calling or a moderator will bounce you.

You can get yourself banned by going ovetboard, ssyi g you suck at life. You are the one lacking perspective and maturity when you go there. This is not a slug em fight using words site that the rest of us want to see. Rather balanced, fair observation and analysis should rue the day. You need to step up and be mature and have more respect. Personal attacks and insulting name calling is against the rules of this board. Do not continue name calling or a moderator will bounce you.
- jhawk59

its the way of the internet. Let them have their fun

Are you OK, do you need someone to talk to? We are there for you if you need someone.
- riozzo

Stop wasting your time with this CARTOON of a poster. His TIN FOIL comments really expose him for the JACKA$$ that he is.

Kempny wasn't signing here again. a 3rd round pick is a more than adequate return.
- 333inthe3rd

Washington can only hope he is a bit better than the bonehead decisions he makes all too often. He impresses with size, speed, shot but does not appear he can put it all together. But i am glad he gets this opportunity. Maybe he will improve, but i sort of doubt it. You are absolutely correct about not re-signing here. Kempny became a huge dissppointment for me. A dman with size, speed, european experience but just not good enough.

Stop wasting your time with this CARTOON of a poster. His TIN FOIL comments really expose him for the JACKA$$ that he is.
- BGKarras

So now Goalie-33 is the new Tin Foil hat master?

Of all the professional teams on the planet, name one that makes every move perfectly? The bar your setting is unobtainable.
- riozzo

And i think Bowman gambled and lost on some trades, not just poor evaluation.

How is the Cat for Kelfbust trade working for ya?


Quinn Hughes the best D-man in this draft after Dahlin.
Fast,greta puck handling, with great vision.
All you crying for more size have 0 clue!!
Game has moved on from size. Hawks need a puck skating D-man just like Hughes.
No more big slow guys like Seabiscut & Murphy.

Carry on with your sources.....



- Goalie-33

But you still need a couple guys with size and wilingness to be a physical body checking force as needed. A true elite qb type though is also very desirable.

You can get yourself banned by going ovetboard, ssyi g you suck at life. You are the one lacking perspective and maturity when you go there. This is not a slug em fight using words site that the rest of us want to see. Rather balanced, fair observation and analysis should rue the day. You need to step up and be mature and have more respect. Personal attacks and insulting name calling is against the rules of this board. Do not continue name calling or a moderator will bounce you.
- jhawk59

Who cares?

NOT ME!!

Thanks

So now Goalie-33 is the new Tin Foil hat master?
- powerenforcer

Don't worry - you'll always be "First Tin Foil Hat Master" in our hearts.

So now Goalie-33 is the new Tin Foil hat master?
- powerenforcer

He was away for a while, Suspended? The other goof has been MIA for a while.

Kempny was given a chance, he's just not consistently good. Neither is Rutta for that matter and I really don't expect him to last long either.
- DarthKane

Kempny has the tools though and is a guy they should have invested more time in developing properly.

Kempny has the tools though and is a guy they should have invested more time in developing properly.
- fattybeef

Isn't he like 27? When do you cut bait? And he was not going to resign here.

And i think Bowman gambled and lost on some trades, not just poor evaluation.
- jhawk59

Bowman's made some good moves and he's made some poor ones, but same can ne said for almost any GM. The only move that really gets me is Seabrook's deal. I can live with the cap hit just not the length of the deal.

Kempny has the tools though and is a guy they should have invested more time in developing properly.
- fattybeef

Rutta, Kempny Gustafsson and Oesterle are all borderline NHL talent, if it was up to me none of them would be in the roster. I can live with Gus on the team if he plays protected minutes and PP time.

I like Burrish on the broadcasts. But I have to at least question what he would know about a PP, having very few shifts if any on one. Although anything different might just be better.
- 6628

I would think, in order to make it to the NHL, Mr Burish was likely on PK and PP duty all the way through his college and then AHL time. That being said, I would cede your point if you were limiting your comment to his NHL years.

Isn't he like 27? When do you cut bait? And he was not going to resign here.
- riozzo

You play him consistently. Should have had more than 50 games last year. Should have played more than 31 with Chicago this year.

Part of the problem with those European players coming to the states is they need time to adjust to the amount of room they have to work with on the ice. TT was a prime example of that. Being able to coast up the boards in Europe whilst that isnt an option here was kind of a rude awakening and took him two full seasons to adjust.

Guys like Murphy and Kempny who have all of the physical tools in terms of size, mobility and being technically good enough to make a tape to tape pass and have a heavy shot who show hints of getting it at times ought to be given more changes than guys like Osterle who are just bad.

Maybe he fails miserably at some point but I don't think that he was given enough of an opportunity to figure it out. It'll be interesting to see what Trotz gets out of him if anything.

Rutta, Kempny Gustafsson and Oesterle are all borderline NHL talent, if it was up to me none of them would be in the roster. I can live with Gus on the team if he plays protected minutes and PP time.
- DarthKane

One striking thing I noticed from the end of the last St Louis playoff series is how much bigger Gustafsson is now. He has significantly bulked up, to my eye.
Another thing I noticed in Wednesday's game, more so than any other, is that his pinches were genuine forays deep into the offensive zone. And, if the puck happened to come back out quickly, there was almost always a forward skating backward as one of the defensive pair.
Made me guess the team is being coached to do this.