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tompo1015
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 03.17.2013

Nov 27 @ 11:14 PM ET
Lol okay so now I can't take you seriously cause you have to know Seabrook hasn't gotten close to 12 or less minutes this season, right? His lowest time was 16:26 (partially due to how many penalties there was in the game) but he's coming off a 18/19+ minute games against the Florida teams. And again, Seabrook is still getting 2nd pairing comp/deployment and go look at some shift charts in the recent games and tell me who does Q has out there. Yeah, not being on special teams is helping regulate his minutes better but the rest is pretty standard.

And the cap is going up as it has every year recently but okay.

Y'all pick some wild topics when the team is winning.

- L_B_R



As the season has gone on, he's getting fewer minutes. But, when you're up by several goals late, like tonight, he plays more minutes and rests guys like Keith, Rutta and Forsling.
In tight games, late, you'll see a lot more Keith, Rutta and Forsling.
If the cap only goes up $1-2 million, that doesn't help the Hawks or lesson that fearful Seabrook contract.

L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Nov 27 @ 11:18 PM ET
As the season has gone on, he's getting fewer minutes. But, when you're up by several goals late, like tonight, he plays more minutes and rests guys like Keith, Rutta and Forsling.
In tight games, late, you'll see a lot more Keith, Rutta and Forsling.
If the cap only goes up $1-2 million, that doesn't help the Hawks or lesson that fearful Seabrook contract.

- tompo1015

I'm going to need you to learn how to look up a player's easily accessible game logs before we if we're going to continue this conversation. Cause those are just just incorrect statement atm. Maybe at some point but not currently.

Spoiler for when you go do some research: Seabrook literally played less minutes tonight in a semi-blowout than in the Tampa 'close' game by over two minutes. Seabrook lowest TOI game was the ones in which the Hawks outscored their opponents 6-3. So false that Q plays him more when the Hawks are up several goals. And for late close games, Q does use Forsling-Rutta but also Keith-Seabrook - it's Murphy and Franson that typically (though not always) take a seat. Seabrook's TOI has fluctuated the last 5-8 games (as has Keith's) but the biggest impact usually is how much special teams time there is. Q is indeed smart that he's found how to regulate his current defense's TOI well.
Stan_Bowman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.27.2017

Nov 27 @ 11:20 PM ET
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.
- DarthKane


You aint kidding

clean up, aisle ONE GOAL
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Nov 27 @ 11:20 PM ET
Hawks now with the 5th best Goal Differential in the NHL
- SimpleJack

And scoring 5x5 - 9 in the last two games.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Nov 27 @ 11:21 PM ET
Panik doesn't want anything to do with Bieksa. Bouma probably doesn't either, but he should bc that's his role. Bieksa is a SOB but
those Superman punch KOs were epic.

- EnzoD


If you are overmatched by a better fighter and perhaps a larger size opponent, then you always have the option of delivering hard checks and or a Gordie Howe well placed stick to the ribs. Hockey is a tough sport and you have to be tough. A small percentage of extremely talented players avoid the rough stuff. The rest of the players - almost each one - needs to have a tough skin and would really benefit their survival if they willingly demonstrate at least an occassional burst of nasty. Take a hit and give a hit. These sore loosers like Bieksa get away with far too much. Ritchie is another and Kesler deserves all his injury and health concerns because he is another jerk. So glad that Ladd tko Bieksa. I do not want to wish bad on anyone but I definitely will not feel bad if Bieksa gets a concussion which ends his sorry -less career.
gazza53
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 09.15.2017

Nov 27 @ 11:24 PM ET
Nice game, tomorrow sit Franson play Kempny on his offside
maybe that's all he needs, see if he can play w/Keith.

I'd also play Kero sit Bouma, I didn't see him do his job
protecting anyone tonight, but overall the 4th line has been
nothing but solid.

Forsling is becoming pretty good and the Cat has it
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 27 @ 11:34 PM ET
Guys on the post game believe Cat will be on the top line some time this season, just a matter of time.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 27 @ 11:38 PM ET
What a difference a few weeks make, nice to see the Hawks time after time fluid out of their own zone, struggled so much with this beginning of the year.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Nov 27 @ 11:39 PM ET
Guys on the post game believe Cat will be on the top line some time this season, just a matter of time.
- BetweenTheDots


yep...replace panik...but i think in doing so that places him at right wing instead left wing...
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Nov 27 @ 11:41 PM ET
hawks need to play well and beat this damn pred team in regulation...

in the last 6 games (playoffs incl) hawks have scored 5 goals in regulation..

preds know how to play the hawks and do it rather well
SoftServe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.19.2016

Nov 27 @ 11:41 PM ET
yep...replace panik...but i think in doing so that places him at right wing instead left wing...
- bogiedoc


He's been playing on the right wing on the 3rd line & still lighting it up no?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 27 @ 11:42 PM ET
Next 5 games are going to be physical, if they can get a lead in the 1st it'll help, felt like up by 2 goals Ducks backed off a bit worried about penalty calls.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Nov 27 @ 11:51 PM ET
He's been playing on the right wing on the 3rd line & still lighting it up no?
- SoftServe



you are right...i got it wrong...sharp is LW; so transition replacing panik would be no problem
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Nov 28 @ 12:17 AM ET
The talk of trading Seabrook during the season is a pipe dream...To trade him in the off-season wouldn't be easy either as probably close to 1/2 his salary would need to be retained-If not some deadweight would be coming back.

I think not playing Seabrook at the point on the PP is a mistake-Using Kane at the point is a joke. Seabrook is still the best passer on the blueline and has a better shot than Keith. Thank God Fransen fell into the Hawks lap as Murphy looks most comfortable playing as a 5/6 dman...

Rutta hasn't been bad but his +7 is a bit misleading and he plays very small for a guy 6'3".

What Bowman needs to do is to find a Johnny Oduya like player-Someone who has experience, can pass, play with his head up, skate and is at least is a C+ on defense.

Oduya was never as good anywhere else as he was here-That's what's needeed, obviously not easy to find and Hawks only have 3 draft picks in the first 5 rounds.
It took a 2nd and 3rd to get Oduya.

The Hawks started playing better-faster when Forsling returned but he is still green and is an adventure in his own end. But he can skate and has good vision.

Hawks need to get through the next 5 weeks and hope no one important gets injured. Because from now until 1st week in January the schedule is very difficult.

Debrincat needs to play top 6 minutes and so does Schmaltz. AA is the perfect 3rd line center for a team that wants to make a long run in the playoffs....Not Schmaltz.
Stan_Bowman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.27.2017

Nov 28 @ 12:18 AM ET
you are right...i got it wrong...sharp is LW; so transition replacing panik would be no problem
- bogiedoc


Quality of opposing lines moves up from 3rd to 1st line, lets not forget that

Toews and Kane lines drawing all the major heat allows the depth to find holes
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Nov 28 @ 12:51 AM ET
Does anyone know how well - if, indeed, well - former Blackhawk Johnny Oduya has performed for Ottawa?

Just curious to know how he has recovered from injuries and if he is still not up to par, meaning the top standard he set for a while in Chicago. Maybe he is playing often a defensive game and concentrating on trying to move the puck without skating it too much. This fits the expection of an elder player who has been banged up often last few years.
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Nov 28 @ 1:09 AM ET
Stan should trade DeBrincat now while his value is high.
- DarthKane


Throw in Toews as a sweetener.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Nov 28 @ 1:16 AM ET
The talk of trading Seabrook during the season is a pipe dream...To trade him in the off-season wouldn't be easy either as probably close to 1/2 his salary would need to be retained-If not some deadweight would be coming back.

I think not playing Seabrook at the point on the PP is a mistake-Using Kane at the point is a joke. Seabrook is still the best passer on the blueline and has a better shot than Keith. Thank God Fransen fell into the Hawks lap as Murphy looks most comfortable playing as a 5/6 dman...

Rutta hasn't been bad but his +7 is a bit misleading and he plays very small for a guy 6'3".

What Bowman needs to do is to find a Johnny Oduya like player-Someone who has experience, can pass, play with his head up, skate and is at least is a C+ on defense.

Oduya was never as good anywhere else as he was here-That's what's needeed, obviously not easy to find and Hawks only have 3 draft picks in the first 5 rounds.
It took a 2nd and 3rd to get Oduya.

The Hawks started playing better-faster when Forsling returned but he is still green and is an adventure in his own end. But he can skate and has good vision.

Hawks need to get through the next 5 weeks and hope no one important gets injured. Because from now until 1st week in January the schedule is very difficult.

Debrincat needs to play top 6 minutes and so does Schmaltz. AA is the perfect 3rd line center for a team that wants to make a long run in the playoffs....Not Schmaltz.

- Al


Something can be said for getting all your players some playing time and not keeping their spot on the pine always warm. That something is this: Osterle and Kempny will be rusty and lacking confidance from not playing even a tad every few games.

There are different coaching styles and there is polarizing effect on players whom sit too much becase the coach cannot see their playing is more important, long term, than gaining each point possible.

I like how in baseball the Cubs manager, Joe Madden, gets everyone in games - no one has a permanent dugout seat beyond a few games. It sure seems that way
matt_ahrens
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Carlos, CA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Nov 28 @ 1:27 AM ET
Is there anyone out there that still doubts Cat
- HamiltonHawk


The kid has figured out how to score at this level. I hope he can keep it up! Good for him, good for the Blackhawks! He's fun to watch.
matt_ahrens
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Carlos, CA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Nov 28 @ 1:30 AM ET
Hmm I'm not saying Seabrook's play is ever going to match his cap hit, but with a rising cap, it's not going to be as big a deal to have his cap hit on the book. Well, as long as Bowman balances the cap in other areas, of course. But the fact is that until the Hawks have legit defenders that can replace what Seabrook brings currently, they should not move him. If they find value more than just blank cap space, then okay but I would not move him for $1m in savings with a meh return / forced to sign a lesser d-man.

Also, Q is not really shielding Seabrook - he's taken him off special teams to help with his work load, but Seabrook is still facing mid/high QOC. Technically, Q is not matching his pairs to opposing lines - he's more picking his line/pairs as units and/or focusing on their zone deployment. Seabrook-Murphy are currently facing the Silfverberg (1/2 LW) line against the Ducks. Pretty much Seabrook is getting 2nd pairing QOC with 3rd pairing TOI. That's not sheltering.

- L_B_R


Totally true. And, maybe there will be other options if the CBA gets reopened in 2019, like last time. And, sometimes players can get back some of their old form if they are dealing with injuries.
matt_ahrens
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Carlos, CA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Nov 28 @ 1:33 AM ET
Nothing like a few wins to make everything right in the world again. Glad to see Sharp get a goal and the kid with the hat trick is pretty awesome. AA doing his thing. Saad too. I hope they keep the momentum tomorrow night.
Butcherboy66
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Thorold, ON
Joined: 03.30.2017

Nov 28 @ 7:00 AM ET
If you are overmatched by a better fighter and perhaps a larger size opponent, then you always have the option of delivering hard checks and or a Gordie Howe well placed stick to the ribs. Hockey is a tough sport and you have to be tough. A small percentage of extremely talented players avoid the rough stuff. The rest of the players - almost each one - needs to have a tough skin and would really benefit their survival if they willingly demonstrate at least an occassional burst of nasty. Take a hit and give a hit. These sore loosers like Bieksa get away with far too much. Ritchie is another and Kesler deserves all his injury and health concerns because he is another jerk. So glad that Ladd tko Bieksa. I do not want to wish bad on anyone but I definitely will not feel bad if Bieksa gets a concussion which ends his sorry -less career.
- jhawk59

Ladd tko'd Kessler not Bieksa, did it a few times too, was a beautiful thing..
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Nov 28 @ 8:04 AM ET
Ladd tko'd Kessler not Bieksa, did it a few times too, was a beautiful thing..
- Butcherboy66

So then it was Bieksa who bit some player. Oh how I detest flagrant actions, cheap shots especially coming from a player reknown for just that. A team needs such a player; we have Hartman. When we had Shaw, he would get up against bigger, larger players and had a lot of guts. I applaud when DeBrincat engages in physical confrontations; he is player worth cheering for.

hocktock
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Over by dere.
Joined: 07.15.2015

Nov 28 @ 8:13 AM ET
Stan should trade DeBrincat now while his value is high.
- DarthKane


Yea. Maybe we can get Duchene.

Yup.
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Nov 28 @ 8:35 AM ET
Decent game last night for the Hawks but, glass half-empty thoughts, Anisimov - 25% at the dot; Toews - 0 points; D-cat - 0 hits, 0 takeaways; Crawford - .893 SV%. Not convinced yet.

Odd thing though , Oesterle & Kero listed as "scratched" but, Kempney listed as "illness". I noticed this last game also.
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