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UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Nov 7 @ 3:16 PM ET
We sure are seeing a lot of these articles.
- ses111


Yep. I thought this one was a little fairer than some of the others when you get toward the bottom.

I'm sure the team will "regress," but there are things at work beyond the numbers. We've seen better possession teams here over the years that I wouldn't trade for this team. These guys are just calmer, more professional, and positionally sound even when they are stuck in their own zone for a while. They get more 2-on-1s off of turnovers than I've seen from this team in a while, and I'd take those chances over a bunch of perimeter shots and more zone time. Some of the guys who are cited as having luck on their side with the shooting percentages aren't scoring flukey goals...they're scoring tap-ins off odd-man rushes.

I think they're playing with fire a little bit in their own zone and need to get better forechecks going, sure, and I have no idea how the next month will go. But I wouldn't just look at a few stats and count the team out, either.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 7 @ 3:26 PM ET
Yep. I thought this one was a little fairer than some of the others when you get toward the bottom.

I'm sure the team will "regress," but there are things at work beyond the numbers. We've seen better possession teams here over the years that I wouldn't trade for this team. These guys are just calmer, more professional, and positionally sound even when they are stuck in their own zone for a while. They get more 2-on-1s off of turnovers than I've seen from this team in a while, and I'd take those chances over a bunch of perimeter shots and more zone time. Some of the guys who are cited as having luck on their side with the shooting percentages aren't scoring flukey goals...they're scoring tap-ins off odd-man rushes.

I think they're playing with fire a little bit in their own zone and need to get better forechecks going, sure, and I have no idea how the next month will go. But I wouldn't just look at a few stats and count the team out, either.

- UIF


Well put UIF. No question the Isles need to clean some issue up and I hope they will get better in playing the system as the season goes on. The good news is there seems to be some real options in Bridge if the team needs help. I'm not expecting the Isles to finish first but things are looking up and it should be a good entertaining season.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Nov 7 @ 3:37 PM ET
Well put UIF. No question the Isles need to clean some issue up and I hope they will get better in playing the system as the season goes on. The good news is there seems to be some real options in Bridge if the team needs help. I'm not expecting the Isles to finish first but things are looking up and it should be a good entertaining season.
- ses111


I am still expecting them to be a bubble team. November is usually the time of their annual 10+ game losing streak. I don't expect to see that kind of streak under Trotz, but I wouldn't be surprised by to see a 5-10-5 stretch between now and New Years.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 7 @ 3:40 PM ET
“Look man, I can't recall interacting with a single Islanders fan, ever, in my entire life.

😂😂😂

More like he wants to forget.

- Cptmjl



I wasn't joking though, the Islanders are likely to regress at some point.

Before anyone gets all offended, I'm not knocking them...but their PDO (sv%+sh%) is astronomically high and it's been proven that teams that have abnormally-high PDO (or abnormally-low PDO) will eventually regress (or progress) closer to the mean.

PDO is more or less a "puck-luck" statistic and major outliers are highly unlikely to remain where they are over the course of long periods of time.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 7 @ 3:43 PM ET


I wasn't joking though, the Islanders are likely to regress at some point.

Before anyone gets all offended, I'm not knocking them...but their PDO (sv%+sh%) is astronomically high and it's been proven that teams that have abnormally-high PDO (or abnormally-low PDO) will eventually regress (or progress) closer to the mean.

PDO is more or less a "puck-luck" statistic and major outliers are highly unlikely to remain where they are over the course of long periods of time.

- eichiefs9

I know read my post earlier it echoes the same thing. I don’t disagree at all that’s more than likely what will happen unless Trotz can fix it I’m season. My point is tanners obvious hate is beyond transperant 😂
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 7 @ 3:43 PM ET
I know read my post earlier it echoes the same thing. I don’t disagree at all that’s more than likely what will happen unless Trotz can fix it I’m season. My point tanners obvious hate is beyond transperant 😂
- Cptmjl

Oh yeah, Tanner is a full-blown ass clown. No argument there.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Nov 7 @ 3:45 PM ET
Tanner is just a whiny punk with an agenda.
- Cptmjl

Two and three years ago he was telling the world the caps were the best even though they hadn't won a cup
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Nov 7 @ 3:47 PM ET


I wasn't joking though, the Islanders are likely to regress at some point.

Before anyone gets all offended, I'm not knocking them...but their PDO (sv%+sh%) is astronomically high and it's been proven that teams that have abnormally-high PDO (or abnormally-low PDO) will eventually regress (or progress) closer to the mean.

PDO is more or less a "puck-luck" statistic and major outliers are highly unlikely to remain where they are over the course of long periods of time.

- eichiefs9

Yea these things average out but lets hope they improve in some areas before they do regress to offset that
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 7 @ 3:51 PM ET
Oh yeah, Tanner is a full-blown ass clown. No argument there.
- eichiefs9


You cannot be taken seriously when you call Barry overrated. All he has done is win everywhere and it's only November and it will most likely not last, the Isles are still in 1st.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Nov 7 @ 4:18 PM ET
I think I've been spoiled here in the forums. I checked out our thread on the main page and I forgot how tedious it is wading through all the garbage from other teams' fans

I mean, mdw does his best to make up for it with the garbage he posts here, but it's still much better than the main page threads
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 7 @ 4:24 PM ET
I think I've been spoiled here in the forums. I checked out our thread on the main page and I forgot how tedious it is wading through all the garbage from other teams' fans

I mean, mdw does his best to make up for it with the garbage he posts here, but it's still much better than the main page threads

- UIF

I’m diving in over there. Been a while good stuff.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Location: Groupthink Run Amok, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 7 @ 4:47 PM ET


I wasn't joking though, the Islanders are likely to regress at some point.

Before anyone gets all offended, I'm not knocking them...but their PDO (sv%+sh%) is astronomically high and it's been proven that teams that have abnormally-high PDO (or abnormally-low PDO) will eventually regress (or progress) closer to the mean.

PDO is more or less a "puck-luck" statistic and major outliers are highly unlikely to remain where they are over the course of long periods of time.

- eichiefs9


I don't think there are many Islander fans out there that expect the isles to keep this up with the current roster. With that said hopefully Lou is looking to improve this roster for the second half after him and Trotz get a long look at what they have now
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Nov 7 @ 5:02 PM ET
I don't think there are many Islander fans out there that expect the isles to keep this up with the current roster. With that said hopefully Lou is looking to improve this roster for the second half after him and Trotz get a long look at what they have now
- Vukota

Who are they going to move that doesnt have some ridiculous term and or length
Vukota
New York Islanders
Location: Groupthink Run Amok, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 7 @ 5:06 PM ET
Who are they going to move that doesnt have some ridiculous term and or length
- Upstate_isles


I never said it would be easy but Lou has a ton of prospects and some picks to get creative
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 7 @ 5:21 PM ET
Who are they going to move that doesnt have some ridiculous term and or length
- Upstate_isles

Martin. He only has nine years left on his contract some contender would happily take him at the TDL.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Nov 7 @ 5:24 PM ET
I never said it would be easy but Lou has a ton of prospects and some picks to get creative
- Vukota

Yea i think nelson and a prospect is the safest bet due to him being a f.a. (i forgot about this last week) ladd komorov filppula cizikas martin clutterbuck boondoggle and johnston are pretty much undesirable
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 7 @ 5:35 PM ET
Yea i think nelson and a prospect is the safest bet due to him being a f.a. (i forgot about this last week) ladd komorov filppula cizikas martin clutterbuck boondoggle and johnston are pretty much undesirable
- Upstate_isles

Trade’em now while their values up!😂
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Nov 7 @ 5:41 PM ET
Trade’em now while their values up!😂
- Cptmjl

Undesirable is their value being up
Wildschwein
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Nov 7 @ 5:47 PM ET
Trade’em now while their values up!😂
- Cptmjl


Filppula and Komarov for Lucic (2 mill retained)
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Nov 7 @ 5:50 PM ET
Filppula and Komarov for Lucic (2 mill retained)
- Wildschwein

Yeah, cuz the one thing we need is a third tough guy in the lineup.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 7 @ 5:51 PM ET
Filppula and Komarov for Lucic (2 mill retained)
- Wildschwein

Two for one. I like it.
Wildschwein
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Nov 7 @ 5:54 PM ET
Yeah, cuz the one thing we need is a third tough guy in the lineup.
- JohnScammo


He has his purposes. Just tell Ladd that if he doesn’t score one goal every third game, Lucic will be popping viagra and bunking with him on road trips.

BOOM!!! Ladd turns into a top 6 scoring winger.
Wildschwein
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Nov 7 @ 5:55 PM ET
Two for one. I like it.
- Cptmjl


The math just don’t lie.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Nov 7 @ 6:00 PM ET
He has his purposes. Just tell Ladd that if he doesn’t score one goal every third game, Lucic will be popping viagra and bunking with him on road trips.

BOOM!!! Ladd turns into a top 6 scoring winger.

- Wildschwein

OK, now it all makes sense.

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