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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 17 @ 9:37 AM ET
Hope the kid's ok. Haven't found any video of it as of yet.
- Isleshockeyman

https://twitter.com/DanWe...tatus/1052390132211490816

I just found it. Yikes, that's ugly.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Oct 17 @ 9:44 AM ET
https://twitter.com/DanWeiner/status/1052390132211490816

I just found it. Yikes, that's ugly.

- eichiefs9


Wow, I hope the kid is okay. He practically ran into Rafferty.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Oct 17 @ 9:59 AM ET
Wow, I hope the kid is okay. He practically ran into Rafferty.
- JimmyP

True, although you can also see Rafferty leaning into the kid's head.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 17 @ 10:20 AM ET
https://twitter.com/DanWeiner/status/1052390132211490816

I just found it. Yikes, that's ugly.

- eichiefs9


if I am on that team I am over the boards going after Rafferty.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Oct 17 @ 10:24 AM ET
https://twitter.com/DanWeiner/status/1052390132211490816

I just found it. Yikes, that's ugly.

- eichiefs9


hate to say it but that kid will never be the same. Have to keep you head up when you skate but that was totally illegal hit from blind side.

niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 17 @ 10:26 AM ET
hate to say it but that kid will never be the same. Have to keep you head up when you skate but that was totally illegal hit from blind side.
- Spartiarti


People will argue it was clean I am sure. The bottom line is it was a very dangerous hit that is/was very likely to injure a player. I despise those kind of hits.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Oct 17 @ 10:34 AM ET
hate to say it but that kid will never be the same. Have to keep you head up when you skate but that was totally illegal hit from blind side.
- Spartiarti


They were squared up when they hit. Its clear Iskhakov had no idea the hit was coming because his head was down, but he wan't hit from the side or back.
Wildschwein
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Oct 17 @ 10:45 AM ET
https://twitter.com/DanWeiner/status/1052390132211490816

I just found it. Yikes, that's ugly.

- eichiefs9


Holy poop. Kid was instantly lights out. 😬
Hard to tell from the quality of footage, but it didn’t look like a dirty play. I couldn’t make out if the (frank)er in yellow left his feet, lead with an elbow or merely leaned into him.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 17 @ 10:53 AM ET
Holy poop. Kid was instantly lights out. 😬
Hard to tell from the quality of footage, but it didn’t look like a dirty play. I couldn’t make out if the (frank)er in yellow left his feet, lead with an elbow or merely leaned into him.

- Wildschwein

Sure looked like the head was the primary point of contact, but it wasn't late and it wasn't a blindside hit. Hard to tell if it was a shoulder or an elbow in that grainy video though.

Definitely doesn't help that the kid Rafferty that trucked him is listed at 6'1" 191lbs and Iskhakov is listed at 5'7" 165lbs. Rafferty had a considerable size/weight advantage.

edit: Alternate angle here that's a little bit better quality, still can't make out too much of what actually happened though. Skip to about 46 seconds if you don't want to watch the rest
Wildschwein
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:04 AM ET
Sure looked like the head was the primary point of contact, but it wasn't late and it wasn't a blindside hit. Hard to tell if it was a shoulder or an elbow in that grainy video though.

Definitely doesn't help that the kid Rafferty that trucked him is listed at 6'1" 191lbs and Iskhakov is listed at 5'7" 165lbs. Rafferty had a considerable size/weight advantage.

edit: Alternate angle here that's a little bit better quality, still can't make out too much of what actually happened though. Skip to about 46 seconds if you don't want to watch the rest

- eichiefs9


Watched it three times and slowed it down each time. Looks like Iskhakov just skates full bore into his chest. I didn’t see an elbow or shoulder at all. With such a size difference the kid pretty much skated head first into a wall.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Oct 17 @ 11:06 AM ET
Holy poop. Kid was instantly lights out. 😬
Hard to tell from the quality of footage, but it didn’t look like a dirty play. I couldn’t make out if the (frank)er in yellow left his feet, lead with an elbow or merely leaned into him.

- Wildschwein


I looked at the second clip Chiefs posted. Rafferty's feet didn't leave the ice until after contact and I think it was because the hit was so hard. Also Iskhakov was crouched down before the contact. I don't know if Rafferty could have avoided his head.
Wildschwein
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
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Oct 17 @ 11:08 AM ET
I looked at the second clip Chiefs posted. Rafferty's feet didn't leave the ice until after contact and I think it was because the hit was so hard. Also Iskhakov was crouched down before the contact. I don't know if Rafferty could have avoided his head.
- JimmyP


I don’t think he could have either.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:31 AM ET
I don’t think he could have either.
- Wildschwein

I still think he lowers his shoulder into his head. I'm not gonna demonize the guy for it because I don't think there was intention to try and injure him or throw a dirty hit. I think the result was so ugly because of Iskhakov's size...but it looks to me like there was head contact from Rafferty's shoulder.
Wildschwein
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
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Oct 17 @ 11:33 AM ET
I still think he lowers his shoulder into his head. I'm not gonna demonize the guy for it because I don't think there was intention to try and injure him or throw a dirty hit. I think the result was so ugly because of Iskhakov's size...but it looks to me like there was head contact from Rafferty's shoulder.
- eichiefs9


Might be. Regardless the little feller is gonna be down for a long damn while.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:34 AM ET
Might be. Regardless the little feller is gonna be down for a long damn while.
- Wildschwein

I did find it interesting that in one of the articles I saw last night, they said Iskhakov was taken to the hospital for "precautionary measures". Maybe I'm overthinking that line, but if he had a concussion (which is I don't know how he possibly couldn't) wouldn't he have been taken to the hospital......with a concussion or concussion-like symptoms?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
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Oct 17 @ 11:39 AM ET
I still think he lowers his shoulder into his head. I'm not gonna demonize the guy for it because I don't think there was intention to try and injure him or throw a dirty hit. I think the result was so ugly because of Iskhakov's size...but it looks to me like there was head contact from Rafferty's shoulder.
- eichiefs9


Just start watching womens hockey you puss.
Isleshockeyman
Location: IT FINALLY HAPPENED!! I CAN DIE HAPPY NOW!
Joined: 11.05.2014

Oct 17 @ 11:40 AM ET
I did find it interesting that in one of the articles I saw last night, they said Iskhakov was taken to the hospital for "precautionary measures". Maybe I'm overthinking that line, but if he had a concussion (which is I don't know how he possibly couldn't) wouldn't he have been taken to the hospital......with a concussion or concussion-like symptoms?
- eichiefs9

Sadly, they only come easier after that. Kid will never be the same.
Isleshockeyman
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Oct 17 @ 11:41 AM ET
Just start watching womens hockey you puss.
- mdw7413

Speaking of concussions.....................how're you, MDW?
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Oct 17 @ 11:41 AM ET
I did find it interesting that in one of the articles I saw last night, they said Iskhakov was taken to the hospital for "precautionary measures". Maybe I'm overthinking that line, but if he had a concussion (which is I don't know how he possibly couldn't) wouldn't he have been taken to the hospital......with a concussion or concussion-like symptoms?
- eichiefs9

Yes, you're overthinking this. The precautionary measure was to let the doctors diagnose whether he has a concussion. Maybe the team doesn't have a doctor at the arena, so the team can't make a medical diagnosis. That is left to the doctors at the hospital.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
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Oct 17 @ 11:43 AM ET
Speaking of concussions.....................how're you, MDW?
- Isleshockeyman


Just working and trying to piss chiefs off. You know typical day. And how is your fine self today Guy?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
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Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
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As expected, looks like Casey Cizikas has been taken off IR, with Stephen Gionta no longer on #Isles roster.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
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Joined: 10.14.2014

Oct 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
I still think he lowers his shoulder into his head. I'm not gonna demonize the guy for it because I don't think there was intention to try and injure him or throw a dirty hit. I think the result was so ugly because of Iskhakov's size...but it looks to me like there was head contact from Rafferty's shoulder.
- eichiefs9

I agree. You can definitely see Rafferty lean into the kid. If he doesn't lean over, the first point to contact is likely not the head.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:45 AM ET
Just working and trying to piss chiefs off. You know typical day. And how is your fine self today Guy?
- mdw7413

Just post pictures of duck hunting things because everyone knows that the way to piss me off is to be post pictures about one of my favorite hobbies
Isleshockeyman
Location: IT FINALLY HAPPENED!! I CAN DIE HAPPY NOW!
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Oct 17 @ 11:46 AM ET
Just working and trying to piss chiefs off. You know typical day. And how is your fine self today Guy?
- mdw7413


Just fine. Temps are finally starting to drop below 195 degrees.

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