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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 10 @ 2:37 PM ET
Yeah I'm only talking about Johnston. Complaining about Johnson's contract would be like complaining about Burroughs contract or any other Soundtiger's contract
- Vukota

It still made absolutely no sense. Maybe it doesn't hurt the team, but nobody on earth will ever provide a reason that makes me say "Oh, yeah. Good point."
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 10 @ 2:38 PM ET
I wish. Schenn had 10 fewer points last season than Nelson had in the last two seasons combined.
- eichiefs9




Nelson, Pelech, Mayfield, and Leo?

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 10 @ 2:39 PM ET


Nelson, Pelech, Mayfield, and Leo?


- ses111

If that deal happens then I hope you own a radar and a huge umbrella because I'd bust a nut that covered most of the continent.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:39 PM ET
They are most certainly fourth liners. Yes, they can play the PK. It doesn't make them worth those awful contracts. If they weren't 4th liners, they wouldn't have spent literally their entire careers playing on the fourth line. You can find defensively-talented players that don't cost you more than $10M over several years. There is not a GM on earth that would take on those contracts without the Islanders including a major asset along with them.

Chayka would probably take one if you tossed in a first round pick or a solid prospect. But even the Coyotes, the NHL's bad-contract-dumping-grounds, wouldn't take either of those guys without a major pot-sweetener.

- eichiefs9



Clutterbuck was up and down the wilds lineup and as for the islanders, I don't go by where he and Cizikas played under Capuano and Co. The fact is those two guys are playing third line under a real coach and a real GM. I wont argue Martin, as he's a true 4th liner. But, both Cal and Casey I'll disagree with...…….those two can play the game, and would be an asset on any cup run.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 10 @ 2:39 PM ET
They are most certainly fourth liners. Yes, they can play the PK. It doesn't make them worth those awful contracts. If they weren't 4th liners, they wouldn't have spent literally their entire careers playing on the fourth line. You can find defensively-talented players that don't cost you more than $10M over several years. There is not a GM on earth that would take on those contracts without the Islanders including a major asset along with them.

Chayka would probably take one if you tossed in a first round pick or a solid prospect. But even the Coyotes, the NHL's bad-contract-dumping-grounds, wouldn't take either of those guys without a major pot-sweetener.

- eichiefs9


Sadly this is true.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 10 @ 2:40 PM ET
If that deal happens then I hope you own a radar and a huge umbrella because I'd bust a nut that covered most of the continent.
- eichiefs9




Vukota
New York Islanders
Location: Groupthink Run Amok, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:41 PM ET
It still made absolutely no sense. Maybe it doesn't hurt the team, but nobody on earth will ever provide a reason that makes me say "Oh, yeah. Good point."
- eichiefs9


Wouldn't you say not hurting the team is the most important and not whether you agree or not? It's not maybe it doesn't hurt the team its 100% doesn't hurt the team
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 10 @ 2:41 PM ET
Clutterbuck was up and down the wilds lineup and as for the islanders, I don't go by where he and Cizikas played under Capuano and Co. The fact is those two guys are playing third line under a real coach and a real GM. I wont argue Martin, as he's a true 4th liner. But, both Cal and Casey I'll disagree with...…….those two can play the game, and would be an asset on any cup run.
- kindlyrick

Yes they would. But that doesn't mean that you can ignore the fact that they both have really, really bad contracts. They have talent, but that talent =/= the financial ramifications of acquiring them. Isles would need to eat half those deals and, even then, I really don't believe a single GM would trade for them.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:42 PM ET
Sadly this is true.
- ses111



No its not..
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 10 @ 2:43 PM ET
Yeah I'm only talking about Johnston. Complaining about Johnson's contract would be like complaining about Burroughs contract or any other Soundtiger's contract
- Vukota

Not so much complaining then it’s just a completely pointless contract😂
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:44 PM ET
Yes they would. But that doesn't mean that you can ignore the fact that they both have really, really bad contracts. They have talent, but that talent =/= the financial ramifications of acquiring them. Isles would need to eat half those deals and, even then, I really don't believe a single GM would trade for them.
- eichiefs9



Your opinion differs from mine, but neither of us are GMs, and both players have value. Neither of them have Ladd money and term......but both can play multiple positions, and special teams. I'll agree to disagree, but to me, both Cal and Casey would be easily moved.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 10 @ 2:44 PM ET
Wouldn't you say not hurting the team is the most important and not whether you agree or not? It's not maybe it doesn't hurt the team its 100% doesn't hurt the team
- Vukota

This is like a drunk upstate post😂
Vukota
New York Islanders
Location: Groupthink Run Amok, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:44 PM ET
Not so much complaining then it’s just a completely pointless contract😂
- Cptmjl


So then every AHL contract is pointless, right?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 10 @ 2:46 PM ET
Wouldn't you say not hurting the team is the most important and not whether you agree or not? It's not maybe it doesn't hurt the team its 100% doesn't hurt the team
- Vukota

I'm done talking about Ross Johnston. He is an AHL player.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 10 @ 2:46 PM ET
So then every AHL contract is pointless, right?
- Vukota

No. Paying Ross Johnston one million per over four years is pointless. Doesn’t exactly seem like a player in position to play hardball to get top AHL money without even mentioning the term.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:46 PM ET
Not so much complaining then it’s just a completely pointless contract😂
- Cptmjl



My opinion is Lou likes to have a guy who can fight.....and whether or not anyone agree's that that's necessary, that's Lou's deal. As a result he brought in Johnston in case Martin gets hurt IMO
Vukota
New York Islanders
Location: Groupthink Run Amok, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:46 PM ET
This is like a drunk upstate post😂
- Cptmjl


Listen I get it, the isles are off to a decent start so its hard to complain about the on ice stuff right now, so some of you need something to keep bashing I get it. Give it a couple of weeks and then you guys can go back to complaining how Lou hasn't fixed 12 years of Snow in only 6 months
Vukota
New York Islanders
Location: Groupthink Run Amok, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:48 PM ET
No. Paying Ross Johnston one million per over four years is pointless. Doesn’t exactly seem like a player in position to play hardball to get top AHL money without even mentioning the term.
- Cptmjl

complaining about how much an AHL'er makes. You can't make this stuff up only in Islander country baby!!
Vukota
New York Islanders
Location: Groupthink Run Amok, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:48 PM ET
I'm done talking about Ross Johnston. He is an AHL player.
- eichiefs9


Then stop bringing him up every week
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 10 @ 2:49 PM ET
Your opinion differs from mine, but neither of us are GMs, and both players have value. Neither of them have Ladd money and term......but both can play multiple positions, and special teams. I'll agree to disagree, but to me, both Cal and Casey would be easily moved.
- kindlyrick

None of this is true. Cizikas has never played wing, at least not enough times to say he's a multiple-position player and Clutterbuck has played RW for literally his entire career.

If you can find me 3 instances in the last 5 years that players with career-high's of around 30pts who carried cap hits of more than $3M were traded, without massive sweeteners added, I will retract everything I said.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 10 @ 2:52 PM ET
Listen I get it, the isles are off to a decent start so its hard to complain about the on ice stuff right now, so some of you need something to keep bashing I get it. Give it a couple of weeks and then you guys can go back to complaining how Lou hasn't fixed 12 years of Snow in only 6 months
- Vukota

Nah more like we’re discussing contracts and there potential effect long term on the team. I wanted to stay the (frank) away from this conversation I’m sorry I got involved. Also, im not bashing anything and way to exaggerate at the end there😂
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 10 @ 2:53 PM ET
Listen you keep worrying about 3 or 4 years down the road Let's move onto the next topic. Does Lou take the extra 2 million he got from Kovar leaving and try to make another move or just hold onto it and sit back and see where this team is in a couple of months before deciding to do something? Also Eberle has been basically invisible since being moved off Barzal's line and Beau is off to a slow start as well
- Vukota



3 or 4 years down the road, Oh my.

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 10 @ 2:53 PM ET
complaining about how much an AHL'er makes. You can't make this stuff up only in Islander country baby!!
- Vukota

There’s a difference between making a point and complaining.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Location: Groupthink Run Amok, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:53 PM ET
Nah more like we’re discussing contracts and there potential effect long term on the team. I wanted to stay the (frank) away from this conversation I’m sorry I got involved. Also, im not bashing anything and way to exaggerate at the end there😂
- Cptmjl


I get that then Johnston shouldn't have been in the conversation because it has no effect

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