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mdw7413
New York Rangers
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Oct 2 @ 10:28 AM ET
I think it's more a case of freedom to write what he thinks now that he's with the athletic. Met Art last year at the game in Vancouver and was interesting to talk to.
- Isles_since_6


Good website
niteislander
New York Islanders
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Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 2 @ 10:35 AM ET
Staple:

3) If it’s Toews

- UIF[sent down], that’s a misstep by Trotz. The 24-year-old rookie has looked more than ready for the NHL throughout camp. His skating is second only to Nick Leddy among the eight defensemen still around and he’s strong enough to hold his own with NHL forwards. Trotz acknowledged that Toews “has made it difficult for us” in terms of making a decision but also acknowledged that the Toews-Scott Mayfield pair in practice right now is the fourth pair.

It certainly makes no sense to keep Toews up just to scratch him, so if he’s not in the top six to start, going to Bridgeport is the right call. Except not having Toews in the top six doesn’t seem to be the right call.

...

5) Trotz flipped his second and third defense pairs in practice on Monday, going with Thomas Hickey-Leddy and Luca Sbisa-Johnny Boychuk behind Adam Pelech-Ryan Pulock, which looks to be a nominal top pair right now.

Sbisa-Leddy was not a great pair on Wednesday. As suggested here last week, if moving Leddy to the right side clears the way to have Toews be a regular, then it’s a shrewd move. Doing so to accommodate Sbisa, whose instincts and hockey IQ have been question marks in his previous four NHL stops, seems like a way to drag down the Isles’ most important defenseman in Leddy.

Sbisa-Boychuk would likely be a real struggle. Neither has the skating ability to escape danger and even as a sheltered third pair would find trouble regularly trying to exit the defensive zone. Trotz is definitely still tinkering, even with a pretty decent solution (Toews!) right there in front of him.



Could not agree more with Staple's thoughts.. Future of this Franchise is Toews, Pulock, Leddy.... they need to play. Toews is not a kid anymore. He is 24 and should be playing in NHL.
eichiefs9
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Oct 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
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#Isles Transaction: Jan Kovar and Devon Toews have been loaned to Bridgeport.
eichiefs9
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Oct 2 @ 10:37 AM ET
Arthur Staple
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#Isles send Kovar and Toews to BPT, Ladd to IR retro to 9/16. Lamoriello says Ladd may practice tomorrow.


Something is fishy with the whole Ladd IR thing. They put him on retroactive to two weeks ago so he can come off whenever. I have a feeling that's going to be Lou's way of, eventually, burying that money.
UIF
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Oct 2 @ 10:40 AM ET
Edit...Chief got the news out first.

Let's get pumped about 2 fourth lines an 2 bottom d-pairs
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
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Joined: 09.04.2008

Oct 2 @ 10:45 AM ET
thats Annoying that Toews getting sent down. why have camp then?
the only saving grace if Sbisa gets lit up a game or two you can expect that experiment to end quickly.

Lets give Lou and Trotz the benefit of the doubt. We isles fans have been scarred by Snow regime. If Sbisa cant hang he will be waived.
Spartiarti
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Oct 2 @ 10:45 AM ET
Arthur Staple
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16s16 seconds ago

#Isles send Kovar and Toews to BPT, Ladd to IR retro to 9/16. Lamoriello says Ladd may practice tomorrow.


Something is fishy with the whole Ladd IR thing. They put him on retroactive to two weeks ago so he can come off whenever. I have a feeling that's going to be Lou's way of, eventually, burying that money.

- eichiefs9



does that mean moosekuckle stays?
niteislander
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Oct 2 @ 10:47 AM ET
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#Isles Transaction: Jan Kovar and Devon Toews have been loaned to Bridgeport.

- eichiefs9


I don't understand how you can have a camp/preseason and send the 2 best players down to b-port. Why bother with the preseason? Bellows was fantastic. He scored every game he played..... send him down.

Toews was our best d-man not named Pulock. I have him better than Leddy at this point... .send him down too.

why is this team so affraid to make hard decisions. I don't give a fck if they are veterans, under contract, great in locker room, etc. If you get outplayed by a younger player than you are out... period. this is not friggin Middle school.
eichiefs9
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Oct 2 @ 10:48 AM ET
does that mean moosekuckle stays?
- Spartiarti

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Lou says not a given that Tom Kuhnhackl will be re-assigned to Bridgeport if he clears waivers at noon.


Mancalledsting
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Oct 2 @ 10:48 AM ET
thats Annoying that Toews getting sent down. why have camp then?
the only saving grace if Sbisa gets lit up a game or two you can expect that experiment to end quickly.

Lets give Lou and Trotz the benefit of the doubt. We isles fans have been scarred by Snow regime. If Sbisa cant hang he will be waived.

- Spartiarti


I'm going to agree that we should give them the time necessary to fix this franchise and it will take awhile. But I think MOST of us would agree that Sbisa should NOT be blocking Toews from being on this roster opening night.
niteislander
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Oct 2 @ 10:58 AM ET
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Kuhnhackl is still practicing with the #Isles. If he clears waivers, Lamoriello said he might not go to BPT. Also S. Gionta and Seidenberg, still on tryouts, have replaced Kovar and Toews at practice.
niteislander
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Oct 2 @ 10:58 AM ET
I need to see if I can get a refund on my 10 games I just bought. I would rather go watch b=port.
eichiefs9
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Oct 2 @ 11:00 AM ET
I need to see if I can get a refund on my 10 games I just bought. I would rather go watch b=port.
- niteislander

So I didn't know this...but apparently AHL teams can only have 5 vets play per game and BPT already has 7 without Flumedoggle. So not really sure how that's gonna play out.
niteislander
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Oct 2 @ 11:01 AM ET
So I didn't know this...but apparently AHL teams can only have 5 vets play per game and BPT already has 7 without Flumedoggle. So not really sure how that's gonna play out.
- eichiefs9


So you are saying signing 4 or 5 "Character" guys was not a good idea? Someone better tell Capt.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
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Oct 2 @ 11:02 AM ET
So you are saying signing 4 or 5 "Character" guys was not a good idea? Someone better tell Capt.
- niteislander

This team is made up of about 12 "character" guys, which is why they suck a mile of ass
kasperrko
New York Islanders
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Oct 2 @ 11:06 AM ET
I am not worried season didn’t even start yet. Let’s give it a week or two then complain
mdw7413
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Oct 2 @ 11:08 AM ET
I am not worried season didn’t even start yet. Let’s give it a week or two then complain
- kasperrko


Well as a Rangers fan, I would say sending Bellows and Toews down is not such a great start. I'd be pretty pissed if they were on the Rangers and got sent down.

Kind of expected though with Lou's and Trotz's philosophy of relying a lot on vets.
kasperrko
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Oct 2 @ 11:14 AM ET
Well as a Rangers fan, I would say sending Bellows and Toews down is not such a great start. I'd be pretty pissed if they were on the Rangers and got sent down.

Kind of expected though with Lou's and Trotz's philosophy of relying a lot on vets.

- mdw7413


Understand but this is a new regime and once they see nothing is clicking things will change. I can’t wordy about it now. We are not coaches let it play out. Everyone here has been complaining since July 1st. Let’s see what happens first. No one expects us to win the cup so why complain
ses111
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Oct 2 @ 11:14 AM ET
Well as a Rangers fan, I would say sending Bellows and Toews down is not such a great start. I'd be pretty pissed if they were on the Rangers and got sent down.

Kind of expected though with Lou's and Trotz's philosophy of relying a lot on vets.

- mdw7413


Isles might just be getting Hughes after all mdw.
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Oct 2 @ 11:17 AM ET
Understand but this is a new regime and once they see nothing is clicking things will change. I can’t wordy about it now. We are not coaches let it play out. Everyone here has been complaining since July 1st. Let’s see what happens first. No one expects us to win the cup so why complain
- kasperrko


Because it's our God-given right. Besides, when the outlook is bleak, complaining soothes the soul.
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Oct 2 @ 11:20 AM ET
I am not worried season didn’t even start yet. Let’s give it a week or two then complain
- kasperrko


This season is lost anyway, I'm ok with giving them a year to make a few changes. At least to start changing the trajectory of the franchise. As long as I'm seeing defense getting played, guys actually skating, backchecking and the country club atmosphere disappear, that'd be a good first step to me. Just something to build on.
mdw7413
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Oct 2 @ 11:22 AM ET
Isles might just be getting Hughes after all mdw.
- ses111



mdw7413
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Oct 2 @ 11:23 AM ET
Understand but this is a new regime and once they see nothing is clicking things will change. I can’t wordy about it now. We are not coaches let it play out. Everyone here has been complaining since July 1st. Let’s see what happens first. No one expects us to win the cup so why complain
- kasperrko


If I had to guess, Toews will be up sooner rather than later.
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Oct 2 @ 11:25 AM ET
If I had to guess, Toews will be up sooner rather than later.
- mdw7413


I think he will. Like I've said, I just think Lou is having the vets "audition" so to speak in order to make a move or 2. Just a feeling.

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