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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:28 PM ET
Sorokin and a pick for Grubauer?
- Wildschwein

I'd rather give them the 12th overall than give up Sorokin
Wildschwein
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 22 @ 12:29 PM ET
I'd rather give them the 12th overall than give up Sorokin
- eichiefs9


You truly think he’ll come over one day?
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 22 @ 12:29 PM ET
If they were to include Sorokin in a trade to get a goalie, it damn sure better be a very young one that's extremely talented and I don't believe there are any guys out there. Sorokin is a huge piece. I can't think of a realistic scenario that I'd include Sorokin in, if we're talking goalie trade.
- eichiefs9



Yeah I mean im not suggesting they give him away. But, if he's under contract for the next few years, i'd rather they segue that asset to help the team now. Lets just hope that Christopher Gibson doesn't get hurt......
Isleshockeyman
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Jun 22 @ 12:29 PM ET
I'd rather give them the 12th overall than give up Sorokin
- eichiefs9

Don't mortgage the future for only 2 years.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jun 22 @ 12:30 PM ET
You truly think he’ll come over one day?
- Wildschwein

Supposedly, he was less than enthusiastic to join the Garth Snow Islanders. I'm thinking he could be tempted a bit more now.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 22 @ 12:30 PM ET
You truly think he’ll come over one day?
- Wildschwein



Yes, but, I dont think Lou was brought in to wait and see. I think he's looking to start winning sooner rather than later. Im not sure how much time Sorokin has in his contract, but i'd rather they use that asset for to help the team right now.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 22 @ 12:31 PM ET
Supposedly, he was less than enthusiastic to join the Garth Snow Islanders. I'm thinking he could be tempted a bit more now.
- JohnScammo



Yeah i mean who knows.......all we know is this. Goalies are weird, and add to that he's Russian. He does put up good numbers though. Just not sure they're willing to wait and see with him
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:32 PM ET
Supposedly, he was less than enthusiastic to join the Garth Snow Islanders. I'm thinking he could be tempted a bit more now.
- JohnScammo



Its all about the $$$$$$
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:33 PM ET
Yes, but, I dont think Lou was brought in to wait and see. I think he's looking to start winning sooner rather than later. Im not sure how much time Sorokin has in his contract, but i'd rather they use that asset for to help the team right now.
- kindlyrick

He has two years left on his deal and there are reports that he did not like the Isles previous front-office regime and probably wouldn't come over until things changed. So he's pretty likely to come here when his deal is up, if not buy himself out of his final year after this season and come over a year early.

Not 'waiting and seeing' and throwing away future assets because you're impatient are two totally different things. One is being proactive and the other is being Mike Milbury.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jun 22 @ 12:34 PM ET
Its all about the $$$$$$
- nyisles7

It makes the world go 'round.

I seem to recall reading also, however, that he made some comments indicating he wanted to go a good organization.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 22 @ 12:35 PM ET
He has two years left on his deal and there are reports that he did not like the Isles previous front-office regime and probably wouldn't come over until things changed. So he's pretty likely to come here when his deal is up, if not buy himself out of his final year after this season and come over a year early.

Not 'waiting and seeing' and throwing away future assets because you're impatient are two totally different things. One is being proactive and the other is being Mike Milbury.

- eichiefs9



I totally agree.....and again im not suggesting they give him away. But, he is a blue chip and would get a good return, be it a goalie, or even a dman. I think Lou is going to land Grubauer, so perhaps Sorokin can be used as part of a deal to land Karlsson.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:37 PM ET
I totally agree.....and again im not suggesting they give him away. But, he is a blue chip and would get a good return, be it a goalie, or even a dman. I think Lou is going to land Grubauer, so perhaps Sorokin can be used as part of a deal to land Karlsson.
- kindlyrick

I hear you. I just don't think there is a goalie out there that would either a) be worthy of including Sorokin in a deal for or b) require Sorokin to be added to a deal

I think Grubauer is going to be really good and there's obviously a lot of competition for his services...but he's not so highly-touted that Sorokin needs to be added to a massive deal for him.
DeMart
New York Islanders
Location: Severna Park, MD
Joined: 06.21.2018

Jun 22 @ 12:37 PM ET
Supposedly, he was less than enthusiastic to join the Garth Snow Islanders. I'm thinking he could be tempted a bit more now.
- JohnScammo


Agreed. I think it's worth it to wait a little longer before using him as a chip.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 22 @ 12:41 PM ET
I hear you. I just don't think there is a goalie out there that would either a) be worthy of including Sorokin in a deal for or b) require Sorokin to be added to a deal

I think Grubauer is going to be really good and there's obviously a lot of competition for his services...but he's not so highly-touted that Sorokin needs to be added to a massive deal for him.

- eichiefs9



I just feel that with Barry Trotz now on board, it makes sense that they will be landing Grubauer, which would make him the number 1. If that does happen, I think the next hole that needs to be filled is that top pair D. If the isles have the chance to get one of the leagues elite on the backend, i'll pack Sorokin's bag myself. I do agree with you that Sorokin as part of a deal for Grubauer would be an overpayment.
Vukota
New York Islanders
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Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 22 @ 12:45 PM ET
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As reported here long ago, Rangers have no interest in Dougie Hamilton. Flames believed not to have made Adam Fox available but sure sounds like Travis Hamonic could be had.

kindlyrick
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Jun 22 @ 12:47 PM ET
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As reported here long ago, Rangers have no interest in Dougie Hamilton. Flames believed not to have made Adam Fox available but sure sounds like Travis Hamonic could be had.


- Vukota



The flames are a mess
ses111
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Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:48 PM ET
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As reported here long ago, Rangers have no interest in Dougie Hamilton. Flames believed not to have made Adam Fox available but sure sounds like Travis Hamonic could be had.


- Vukota


I feel for Travis. Hopefully his family is doing well. He has to be thinking we could not have Lou and Barry when I was there.
Wildschwein
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 22 @ 12:50 PM ET
The flames are a mess
- kindlyrick


(frank)ing rights they are.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 22 @ 12:51 PM ET
(frank)ing rights they are.
- Wildschwein



Wasn't there talk of them moving.......or not getting a new arena or something like that??
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:57 PM ET
If they were to include Sorokin in a trade to get a goalie, it damn sure better be a very young one that's extremely talented and I don't believe there are any guys out there. Sorokin is a huge piece. I can't think of a realistic scenario that I'd include Sorokin in, if we're talking goalie trade.
- eichiefs9


You think Sorokin ever comes over? I don't even include him in my thinking...I feel like if he really wanted to come over here he probably wouldn't have signed a multiple year extension over there.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 22 @ 12:58 PM ET
You think Sorokin ever comes over? I don't even include him in my thinking...I feel like if he really wanted to come over here he probably wouldn't have signed a multiple year extension over there.
- UIF



We all no the story about his agent or he saying he didnt love the Snow islanders. Either way, they have his rights. If its two years or never, its an asset. A legit asset


The mere fact that the isles are in any sort of relevant discussion/rumor on Karlsson is mind blowing. Im not used to this....
Wildschwein
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
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Jun 22 @ 1:00 PM ET
Wasn't there talk of them moving.......or not getting a new arena or something like that??
- kindlyrick


It was threatened that they would move if they didn’t get a new facility, but the Mayor of Calgary pretty much told the organization to go (frank) them selves with a splintered hockey stick. Haven’t heard much since.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 22 @ 1:02 PM ET
You think Sorokin ever comes over? I don't even include him in my thinking...I feel like if he really wanted to come over here he probably wouldn't have signed a multiple year extension over there.
- UIF

He didn't want to come over. The word was that he was unimpressed with the Isles front office and that he wanted to see a stronger management group with a good plan before he considered coming over. So he's got two years left on his deal and we have, well...an exponentially strong management group with a plan.

I think he comes, but obviously nothing is set in stone.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 22 @ 1:03 PM ET
I just feel that with Barry Trotz now on board, it makes sense that they will be landing Grubauer, which would make him the number 1. If that does happen, I think the next hole that needs to be filled is that top pair D. If the isles have the chance to get one of the leagues elite on the backend, i'll pack Sorokin's bag myself. I do agree with you that Sorokin as part of a deal for Grubauer would be an overpayment.
- kindlyrick

I don't really think Trotz is going to help or hurt the chances of Grubauer coming. He's going to get traded and he's a young guy without a NTC/NMC. He doesn't really have a say where he goes and I'm sure that he still would have been #1 priority whether Trotz signed on here or not.

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