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ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 12 @ 9:00 AM ET
JT is a douche. That letter was written because Isles fans are calling him out, just like we are. He doesn't want to be viewed as "the bad guy" so out comes this letter. It's typical of him. He wants everyone to like him. He seems very insecure to me. Insecure people do not make good leaders. Which is why he's not a great leader. He's going to shit those boyhood Leaf sheets when the Toronto media starts lacing into him for not playing defense, staying out too long in OT or giving up the puck trying to do too much and the opponent scores (hopefully the Isles).
I know you were calling for him to be traded before last season, Cpt. I believe you were alone in that boat (no pun intended). I thought at the deadline would have been sufficient time for him to decide before getting traded. But since we had a can of bug spray for a GM, nothing happened. Hence, here we are. Fuck him. I hope he doesn't get into the playoffs anymore.
I'm not big on a couple of these contracts that Lou signed, but I'm willing to see how it pans out. Trades? Don't know. Maybe they'll just be a bunch of lunch-pailers that works their asses off and wins games by playing sound, positional hockey and capitalizing on opportunities. Or maybe they'll lose 75 games. We shall see.

- Isleshockeyman


JT did not want to get his hands dirty which is why he was in the tank for Garth and Cappy for years. That's not leadership. Cpt was front and center with wanting JT traded. I was mentioned to trade JT last July and then again before the season. There was a lot of pushback about not wanting JT traded. I also got pushback about JT not being a good leader and many Isles fans thought he was a good leader just because he did not get in trouble and seemed like a good guy. It was a big mistake losing JT for nothing. Ledecky and Malkin have to take the most heat.


Let's hope Lou has some good moves up his sleeve. I know the team will be well coached with Barry and should play hard.
BD Gallof
New York Islanders
Location: Suffolk County, LI, NY
Joined: 01.17.2006

Jul 12 @ 9:04 AM ET
Cpt, a lot of us were concerned when JT refused to re-sign last summer, but you were the only one who consistently said to trade him. My own thought was that Garth had to know his players and their personalities better than me, but it turned out to be just another Garth failure.

Of course, BD would have you believe that JT left, because his loyalty was to Garth, not to the Islanders and their fans. So it was the owners' fault for dumping Garth in favor of Lou.

Bottom line: Garth could not accept last summer the reality that Tavares was considering leaving despite their wonderful relationship. And BD still cannot accept the reality that Garth was an incompetent GM.

- JohnScammo




For record my statement is that changing to Lou and shaking up org merely gave an easier path for JT to leave bc he has strong relationships with previous folks. Previous folks who mattered to him via his PT post...and his friendships, as you can read... did matter.
Result might have been still him leaving, but only made that path easier.

Rest of your item is silly since I've cited ad naseum Garth Snow mistakes in last two seasons. Just as I have cited questionable Lou moves (adding bottom 6 forwards with poor possession and goal differential and a goaltender with lots of flaws) to a team that is per Lou...supposed to win right away. If its to tank and then win down line... he's right on money.
Isleshockeyman
Location: IT FINALLY HAPPENED!! I CAN DIE HAPPY NOW!
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 12 @ 9:04 AM ET
JT did not want to get his hands dirty which is why he was in the tank for Garth and Cappy for years. That's not leadership. Cpt was front and center with wanting JT traded. I was mentioned to trade JT last July and then again before the season. There was a lot of pushback about not wanting JT traded. It was a big mistake losing JT for nothing. Ledecky and Malkin have to take the most heat.


Let's hope Lou has some good moves up his sleeve. I know the team will be well coached with Barry and should play hard.

- ses111

They may be well-coached and play hard, but if they don't have the talent they won't win many games. Got to have that right balance of talent, skill, hard work and coaching.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 12 @ 9:14 AM ET
For record my statement is that changing to Lou and shaking up org merely gave an easier path for JT to leave bc he has strong relationships with previous folks. Previous folks who mattered to him via his PT post...and his friendships, as you can read... did matter.
Result might have been still him leaving, but only made that path easier.

Rest of your item is silly since I've cited ad naseum Garth Snow mistakes in last two seasons. Just as I have cited questionable Lou moves (adding bottom 6 forwards with poor possession and goal differential and a goaltender with lots of flaws) to a team that is per Lou...supposed to win right away. If its to tank and then win down line... he's right on money.

- B.D. Gallof


If JT liked Garth and Doug and wanted them to stay, it's another example JT was a lousy leader and better he left. Isles need a leader willing to get his hands dirty and not just looking to be a good little boy.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 12 @ 9:15 AM ET
They may be well-coached and play hard, but if they don't have the talent they won't win many games. Got to have that right balance of talent, skill, hard work and coaching.
- Isleshockeyman


No question hockeyman. Talent needs to be improved. Coaching should no longer be an issue. It's all about talent now.
Isleshockeyman
Location: IT FINALLY HAPPENED!! I CAN DIE HAPPY NOW!
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 12 @ 9:18 AM ET
For record my statement is that changing to Lou and shaking up org merely gave an easier path for JT to leave bc he has strong relationships with previous folks. Previous folks who mattered to him via his PT post...and his friendships, as you can read... did matter.
Result might have been still him leaving, but only made that path easier.

Rest of your item is silly since I've cited ad naseum Garth Snow mistakes in last two seasons. Just as I have cited questionable Lou moves (adding bottom 6 forwards with poor possession and goal differential and a goaltender with lots of flaws) to a team that is per Lou...supposed to win right away. If its to tank and then win down line... he's right on money.

- B.D. Gallof

So if Snow wasn't fired, then JT MIGHT have stayed? But no, no, go ahead and keep the same idiot GM that didn't succeed at anything for 12 years in the hopes that JT would stay. To suggest that JT would possibly have stayed if Snow was kept is laughable. He was leaving no matter what. And I don't/can't blame him for it. But to string everyone along is a douche move.
Now listen, dude. We've given you your safe space. Where none of the big, mean posters will bother you or prove you wrong time after time. Where we won't get banned for stating our opinions. So I will ask nicely. Please just go back to your little Leafs Islanders thread and let us have our conversations/arguments/discussions. Thank you and kindly go away.
Isleshockeyman
Location: IT FINALLY HAPPENED!! I CAN DIE HAPPY NOW!
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 12 @ 9:20 AM ET
No question hockeyman. Talent needs to be improved. Coaching should no longer be an issue. It's all about talent now.
- ses111

Hopefully, as I've stated before, Lou has some moves up his sleeve to improve the talent. Obviously it'll be a lot more difficult now with JT moving on. Nobody wanted to come here before, they certainly won't want to come here now. Unless they're grossly overpaid.
21peter
Season Ticket Holder
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 12 @ 9:26 AM ET
This is getting awkward. Time for a 3rd place to post for those in between?
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 12 @ 9:31 AM ET
If JT liked Garth and Doug and wanted them to stay, it's another example JT was a lousy leader and better he left. Isles need a leader willing to get his hands dirty and not just looking to be a good little boy.
- ses111



Very good point. Perhaps all this time JT was the problem. Certainly proved to not be a leader/Captain. The Captain always goes down with the ship.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 12 @ 9:33 AM ET
Very good point. Perhaps all this time JT was the problem. Certainly proved to not be a leader/Captain. The Captain always goes down with the ship.
- kindlyrick


Thank You! A lot of Isles fans were taken in by JT and this phony idea he was a good leader. Just because JT was trying to be Andy Griffith did not make him a good leader.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 12 @ 9:33 AM ET
This is getting awkward. Time for a 3rd place to post for those in between?

- 21peter




You are either with us or against us Pete.
21peter
Season Ticket Holder
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 12 @ 9:41 AM ET


You are either with us or against us Pete.

- ses111

I'm always against, except for stirring things up - I'm always for that...
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 12 @ 9:42 AM ET
I'm always against, except for stirring things up - I'm always for that...
- 21peter




I thought we had mdw for this?
21peter
Season Ticket Holder
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 12 @ 9:46 AM ET


I thought we had mdw for this?

- ses111

He's just a Yes and guy...
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 12 @ 9:51 AM ET
I'm always against, except for stirring things up - I'm always for that...
- 21peter

And requesting pictures of underage children from strangers on the internet. You're good for that too.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 12 @ 9:54 AM ET
He's just a Yes and guy...
- 21peter




Isles have too many 4th line players, but always room for more mdw's and Pete's.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:07 AM ET
This is getting awkward. Time for a 3rd place to post for those in between?

- 21peter

Thanks for the props in the walrus's blog. Now I see why so many are fans.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:08 AM ET
So if Snow wasn't fired, then JT MIGHT have stayed? But no, no, go ahead and keep the same idiot GM that didn't succeed at anything for 12 years in the hopes that JT would stay. To suggest that JT would possibly have stayed if Snow was kept is laughable. He was leaving no matter what. And I don't/can't blame him for it. But to string everyone along is a douche move.
Now listen, dude. We've given you your safe space. Where none of the big, mean posters will bother you or prove you wrong time after time. Where we won't get banned for stating our opinions. So I will ask nicely. Please just go back to your little Leafs Islanders thread and let us have our conversations/arguments/discussions. Thank you and kindly go away.

- Isleshockeyman

Troll blog
21peter
Season Ticket Holder
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 12 @ 10:09 AM ET
And requesting pictures of underage children from strangers on the internet. You're good for that too.
- eichiefs9

of all the poop you come up with, that's my favorite.
May you die a slow and painful death!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:10 AM ET
Very good point. Perhaps all this time JT was the problem. Certainly proved to not be a leader/Captain. The Captain always goes down with the ship.
- kindlyrick

Not this one. Every man for himself.
21peter
Season Ticket Holder
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 12 @ 10:11 AM ET
Thanks for the props in the walrus's blog. Now I see why so many are fans.
- Cptmjl

My pleasure, as always Captain
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:11 AM ET
of all the poop you come up with, that's my favorite.
May you die a slow and painful death!

- 21peter

Hit a nerve?
21peter
Season Ticket Holder
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 12 @ 10:16 AM ET
Hit a nerve?
- Cptmjl

I believe those of us with kids feel those jokes are out of bounds...
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 12 @ 10:21 AM ET
of all the poop you come up with, that's my favorite.
May you die a slow and painful death!

- 21peter

Well, I mean...you did, Pedo Pete.

Joined: 12.31.1969

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