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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 6 @ 6:49 PM ET
I'll believe it when I see it.

They are back to being a one line team again unless Trotz can make the Lee-Nelson-Bailey line click. I have serious doubts about that happening. I am expecting to see the old Bailey next season, I hope I am pleasantly surprised.

- JimmyP

I think there will be some surprises. I really believe some of these dormant guys will excel bailey I feel will return to the mean. Hopefully I'm wrong. The guy should feel he has something to prove that he wasn't a product of tavares.

Also, everyone is forgetting about last seasons hero Ross Johnston

3 guys over the team that'll be iced without even Toews who hopefully pushes for a spot. Like pushes Hickey over a cliff I mean.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jul 6 @ 7:08 PM ET
I think there will be some surprises. I really believe some of these dormant guys will excel bailey I feel will return to the mean. Hopefully I'm wrong. The guy should feel he has something to prove that he wasn't a product of tavares.

Also, everyone is forgetting about last seasons hero Ross Johnston

3 guys over the team that'll be iced without even Toews who hopefully pushes for a spot. Like pushes Hickey over a cliff I mean.

- Cptmjl


I'd still take him over Martin and his bad contract.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 6 @ 7:18 PM ET
I'd still take him over Martin and his bad contract.
- JimmyP


Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 6 @ 7:19 PM ET
I'd still take him over Martin and his bad contract.
- JimmyP

Is there any way we can take neither?
Wildschwein
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 6 @ 7:55 PM ET

- nyisles7


Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 6 @ 8:20 PM ET
I didnt think it were possible but Leaf fans have become even more arrogant. For a team that hasn't made it out of the first round in a very long time they sure are (frank)ing egotistical. If there is a God and karma or whatever they will implode.
thejonathans
Season Ticket Holder
New York Rangers
Location: Hello!!!!
Joined: 05.22.2016

Jul 6 @ 8:31 PM ET
I'd still take him over Martin and his bad contract.
- JimmyP


Martin was part of maybe the best 4th line in the NHL.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jul 6 @ 8:35 PM ET
Martin was part of maybe the best 4th line in the NHL.
- thejonathans


Sure, and that's what wins championships.
theguy
New York Islanders
Location: Our Future, NY
Joined: 08.01.2007

Jul 6 @ 8:38 PM ET
I didnt think it were possible but Leaf fans have become even more arrogant. For a team that hasn't made it out of the first round in a very long time they sure are (frank)ing egotistical. If there is a God and karma or whatever they will implode.
- Cptmjl



i don't get how they are that much improved over last year...could just by my warped thinking but they lost JVR who had 35 goals ... has size and replaced him with a 36 goal scorer that refuses to play d and stays out way too long in OT to lose games...maybe an uptick but more like lateral move... plus how many guys did we have to get to try to play with the guy no guarantee he goes in there and has instant chemistry with who ever is on his line
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 6 @ 8:45 PM ET
i don't get how they are that much improved over last year...could just by my warped thinking but they lost JVR who had 35 goals ... has size and replaced him with a 36 goal scorer that refuses to play d and stays out way too long in OT to lose games...maybe an uptick but more like lateral move... plus how many guys did we have to get to try to play with the guy no guarantee he goes in there and has instant chemistry with who ever is on his line
- theguy

Toronto fan on another thread was just saying how strong of a two way player tavares is. That's the first thing the press will pile on him for

They have excellent center depth. That's a winning set up but...
theguy
New York Islanders
Location: Our Future, NY
Joined: 08.01.2007

Jul 6 @ 8:52 PM ET
Toronto fan on another thread was just saying how strong of a two way player tavares is. That's the first thing the press will pile on him for

They have excellent center depth. That's a winning set up but...

- Cptmjl


lmao no way is he anywhere near being a strong 2 way player...i guess him jumping off ice and giving Barzal a push to help him get down there just in time to watch a goal makes him strong....i know everyone wants to jump on the d and goalies but a huge problem was horrible line changes and forwards not getting back to help them out...yes there were a ton of extremely bad passes by d...not like forwards didnt pass to no where leading to break outs...this was a huge system failure ... i have never seen Ovi play the way he did this year ...maybe Trotz can get this band of misfits together and make them play a really strong and dedicated game
Wildschwein
Location: Jumping ship from the Oil to the Isles is like jumping from the Titanic directly onto the Bismark
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 6 @ 9:01 PM ET
Martin was part of maybe the best 4th line in the NHL.
- thejonathans


That’s nonsense.
streaks
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.25.2018

Jul 6 @ 9:17 PM ET
Toronto fan on another thread was just saying how strong of a two way player tavares is. That's the first thing the press will pile on him for

They have excellent center depth. That's a winning set up but...

- Cptmjl

Not even remotely has he ever been a solid two way forward. It was laughable that he was on the PK last yr - Weight wisdom. The one thing I'm bummed about is not being able to see what Trotz could have done with him.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 6 @ 9:23 PM ET
Not even remotely has he ever been a solid two way forward. It was laughable that he was on the PK last yr - Weight wisdom. The one thing I'm bummed about is not being able to see what Trotz could have done with him.
- streaks

Wondering if it would have had a positive effect or not? I dont think he has the foot speed to really alter his game that much without it effecting his scoring...
streaks
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.25.2018

Jul 6 @ 9:24 PM ET
lmao no way is he anywhere near being a strong 2 way player...i guess him jumping off ice and giving Barzal a push to help him get down there just in time to watch a goal makes him strong....i know everyone wants to jump on the d and goalies but a huge problem was horrible line changes and forwards not getting back to help them out...yes there were a ton of extremely bad passes by d...not like forwards didnt pass to no where leading to break outs...this was a huge system failure ... i have never seen Ovi play the way he did this year ...maybe Trotz can get this band of misfits together and make them play a really strong and dedicated game
- theguy

Trotz had an unbelievable impact on Ovi in particular. He was a huge headcase prior to Trotz teaching him discipline, defense and leadership. He used to take dumb penalties and barley backchecked. Now he blocks shots and is a huge leader for his team. Plays with huge passion.
streaks
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.25.2018

Jul 6 @ 9:27 PM ET
Wondering if it would have had a positive effect or not? I dont think he has the foot speed to really alter his game that much without it effecting his scoring...
- Cptmjl

I don't know Cap, Ovie doesn't skate that well either. I think Trotz has an ability to get guys to buy into his system. And I really think JT would have really excelled under him. Just my opinion. We'll never know, unfortunately.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: i am extremely unobservant and my memory is in shambles
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jul 6 @ 9:29 PM ET
If tavares signs in Toronto I'm down with getting Gudas
- Cptmjl

done deal
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 6 @ 9:39 PM ET
done deal
- watsonnostaw

I've changed my mind I dont want that ape near my team of gorillas
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: i am extremely unobservant and my memory is in shambles
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jul 6 @ 9:41 PM ET
I've changed my mind I dont want that ape near my team of gorillas
- Cptmjl

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 6 @ 9:47 PM ET
I don't know Cap, Ovie doesn't skate that well either. I think Trotz has an ability to get guys to buy into his system. And I really think JT would have really excelled under him. Just my opinion. We'll never know, unfortunately.
- streaks

Yep we wont. I didnt want to lose the guy but I also NEVER wanted to pay him 100 million. He's not that player and I'm becoming more ok with him being gone. The immediate sucks I couldn't be more done with losing but that contract attached to a very good not elite player would've killed us long term. I'm not sure Trotz makes him that elite player? We'll see if Babcock can in all honesty the guy has never had a good NHL coach. In fact he has only had the bottom of the barrel as far as nhl coaches go
streaks
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.25.2018

Jul 6 @ 10:07 PM ET
Yep we wont. I didnt want to lose the guy but I also NEVER wanted to pay him 100 million. He's not that player and I'm becoming more ok with him being gone. The immediate sucks I couldn't be more done with losing but that contract attached to a very good not elite player would've killed us long term. I'm not sure Trotz makes him that elite player? We'll see if Babcock can in all honesty the guy has never had a good NHL coach. In fact he has only had the bottom of the barrel as far as nhl coaches go
- Cptmjl

I'm in 100% agreement with you. And IMO, I feel we really could use one more (maybe two) pop type players in the top 6. Frankly Id love Duschene, but not sure he's available. Not that familiar with Pacoriety, but maybe him. Skinner? I don't care who, but we need some more depth up top. And obviously add a D man. I was never a huge deHaan fan, injured way too much. But a stay at home D man and a puck mover would be welcome. I realize a lot of us aren't all that keen on some of the recent moves, I won't get into that. But I really hope they work out. I don't know how much more of this nonsense I can handle...
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 6 @ 10:23 PM ET
I'm in 100% agreement with you. And IMO, I feel we really could use one more (maybe two) pop type players in the top 6. Frankly Id love Duschene, but not sure he's available. Not that familiar with Pacoriety, but maybe him. Skinner? I don't care who, but we need some more depth up top. And obviously add a D man. I was never a huge deHaan fan, injured way too much. But a stay at home D man and a puck mover would be welcome. I realize a lot of us aren't all that keen on some of the recent moves, I won't get into that. But I really hope they work out. I don't know how much more of this nonsense I can handle...
- streaks

Skinner I dont want I would love to have Duchene. We definitely need to add to our defense and I'm not sure if Faulk is the guy that we need for that. Doesn't seem to be much out there kind of a crappy situation.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 7 @ 9:46 AM ET
https://twitter.com/Isles.../1015415487587635200?s=19

https://twitter.com/Isles.../1015307412411224064?s=19

Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 7 @ 9:56 AM ET
I'm in 100% agreement with you. And IMO, I feel we really could use one more (maybe two) pop type players in the top 6. Frankly Id love Duschene, but not sure he's available. Not that familiar with Pacoriety, but maybe him. Skinner? I don't care who, but we need some more depth up top. And obviously add a D man. I was never a huge deHaan fan, injured way too much. But a stay at home D man and a puck mover would be welcome. I realize a lot of us aren't all that keen on some of the recent moves, I won't get into that. But I really hope they work out. I don't know how much more of this nonsense I can handle...
- streaks

You need speed to win in the NHL and the isles are not fast out side of leddy and the 13 72 7 line, duchene is a good center can score and is fast so he can help with that. Jt isnt that fast and will get slower but he can still create time and space alone and that's what makes him elite

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