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UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jul 1 @ 9:57 AM ET
Not sure, but I suspect JT really is indecisive. I'm perhaps most annoyed by something I only learned in the past few days; i.e., that he asked not to be traded at the deadline. That fact, combined with JT saying all the right things for years, and then ultimately giving the Islander fanbase the one finger salute, has made me disgusted with the whole process. Professional athletes nowadays make huge sums of money, thanks to their loyal fans, and then all too often fail to return that loyalty.
- JohnScammo


Totally.

By the way, this is also a 101 course in why YOU TRADE HIM AT THE DEADLINE IF HE HASN'T SIGNED!!! I think the Stamkos thing made people overconfident that that's how it'll always go down as long as everyone's cordial and says nice things to each other. At the end of the day -- and players and management have been saying this since I've been following sports -- it's a business.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:00 AM ET
Totally.

By the way, this is also a 101 course in why YOU TRADE HIM AT THE DEADLINE IF HE HASN'T SIGNED!!! I think the Stamkos thing made people overconfident that that's how it'll always go down as long as everyone's cordial and says nice things to each other. At the end of the day -- and players and management have been saying this since I've been following sports -- it's a business.

- UIF


It was a huge mistake not trading JT at the deadline UIF or even last summer. Isles lost enough players for nothing.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 1 @ 10:12 AM ET
Totally.

By the way, this is also a 101 course in why YOU TRADE HIM AT THE DEADLINE IF HE HASN'T SIGNED!!! I think the Stamkos thing made people overconfident that that's how it'll always go down as long as everyone's cordial and says nice things to each other. At the end of the day -- and players and management have been saying this since I've been following sports -- it's a business.

- UIF

Indeed. It's a sector of the entertainment business. It thrives when it fosters pride in one's community through association with its athletic team(s). But when a player chooses to leave the community that has embraced him, it's a real kick in the teeth.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:15 AM ET
It’s believed his camp rejected the possibility of any team (most likely the Leafs) offering a large, one-year deal now with the promise of an eight-year extension on Jan. 1

Bit of projection with Tavares not just taking a team's word for it on a future contract?
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 1 @ 10:16 AM ET
If the islanders weren't good enough for it at a reported 9 x11.375 or 91 million then why would anyone else come here?
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:18 AM ET
Also, from that same Staple article:

The Isles are still interested in bringing back defensemen Calvin de Haan and Thomas Hickey, according to sources. We will see how that plays out today.


I mean it...if after all the changes our July 1 still turns out to be something like a blockbuster announcement of bringing back Thomas friggin' Hickey...

ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:19 AM ET
Also, from that same Staple article:

The Isles are still interested in bringing back defensemen Calvin de Haan and Thomas Hickey, according to sources. We will see how that plays out today.


I mean it...if after all the changes our July 1 still turns out to be something like a blockbuster announcement of bringing back Thomas friggin' Hickey...


- UIF


de Haan for the right price I'm fine with but no thanks on Hickey. I get Trotz may and his system may be able to do a little more with Hickey but still.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:22 AM ET
de Haan for the right price I'm fine with but no thanks on Hickey. I get Trotz may and his system may be able to do a little more with Hickey but still.
- ses111


Trotz isn't going to magically make Hickey able to out-muscle Kevin Hayes on that play instead of bouncing off of him several times like an annoying gnat.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 1 @ 10:23 AM ET
I would be extremely happy if they got panarin je puts up 70 to 80 points a year (same as jt) panarin .958 Tavares .928
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:25 AM ET
de Haan for the right price I'm fine with but no thanks on Hickey. I get Trotz may and his system may be able to do a little more with Hickey but still.
- ses111



I thought Hickey and Pulock played well together last year.

Fire away I’m ready
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:27 AM ET
Trotz isn't going to magically make Hickey able to out-muscle Kevin Hayes on that play instead of bouncing off of him several times like an annoying gnat.
- UIF


Trust me I agree UIF and I do not want him back.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:27 AM ET
I thought Hickey and Pulock played well together last year.

Fire away I’m ready

- nyisles7


No firing away 7. I just think it's time to move on from Hickey.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island!! I am here............., NY
Joined: 03.09.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:42 AM ET
No firing away 7. I just think it's time to move on from Hickey.
- ses111


I think it’s time to move on from this whole team
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 1 @ 10:43 AM ET
I think it’s time to move on from this whole team
- kasperrko

Might be time to take up a new hobby altogether....
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 1 @ 10:44 AM ET
Hope we hear the isles are making some kind of move, time to move past jt before all options are off the table. Unless hes telling them theres still a chance they have to move. Lou isnt snow so I hope but who knows. Maybe we should offer him a 1 year max deal to see if he likes Trotz (I'm aware all of this is extremely unlikely but hes stringing 6 teams on that are all losing out on other players)
PeteM
New York Islanders
Location: Bklyn/Uniondale/Belmont, NY
Joined: 07.10.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:46 AM ET
No firing away 7. I just think it's time to move on from Hickey.
- ses111


If for no other reason then to rid ourselves of Snow's handiwork
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 1 @ 11:04 AM ET
Nothing is official, but it appears the Islanders are out of the John Tavares pursuit. Their ability to offer an eight-year contract expired at midnight ET on Saturday night and that was really their biggest leverage over the other teams.

A few tidbits from Saturday’s long day of silence on Tavares: It’s believed his camp rejected the possibility of any team (most likely the Leafs) offering a large, one-year deal now with the promise of an eight-year extension on Jan. 1, so Saturday was down to weighing an eight-year offer from the Islanders vs. seven-year offers from other teams.

Tavares chose not to sign and now the Islanders are all but out of it, barring a Lou Lamoriello surprise.

On other fronts, the Islanders appear to have struck out on a couple of targets already this morning: forward David Perron, who chose to go back to the Blues on a four-year deal worth $4 million per over an identical offer from the Isles; and goaltender Anton Khudobin, who is headed to Dallas instead of into the goalie mix on the Island.

Former Islander goaltender Jaroslav Halak is headed to the Bruins on a two-year deal, according to reports. He was never in the mix for a return to the Island.

The Isles are still interested in bringing back defensemen Calvin de Haan and Thomas Hickey, according to sources. We will see how that plays out today.

— Arthur Staple
PeteM
New York Islanders
Location: Bklyn/Uniondale/Belmont, NY
Joined: 07.10.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:13 AM ET
Nothing is official, but it appears the Islanders are out of the John Tavares pursuit. Their ability to offer an eight-year contract expired at midnight ET on Saturday night and that was really their biggest leverage over the other teams.

A few tidbits from Saturday’s long day of silence on Tavares: It’s believed his camp rejected the possibility of any team (most likely the Leafs) offering a large, one-year deal now with the promise of an eight-year extension on Jan. 1, so Saturday was down to weighing an eight-year offer from the Islanders vs. seven-year offers from other teams.

Tavares chose not to sign and now the Islanders are all but out of it, barring a Lou Lamoriello surprise.

On other fronts, the Islanders appear to have struck out on a couple of targets already this morning: forward David Perron, who chose to go back to the Blues on a four-year deal worth $4 million per over an identical offer from the Isles; and goaltender Anton Khudobin, who is headed to Dallas instead of into the goalie mix on the Island.

Former Islander goaltender Jaroslav Halak is headed to the Bruins on a two-year deal, according to reports. He was never in the mix for a return to the Island.

The Isles are still interested in bringing back defensemen Calvin de Haan and Thomas Hickey, according to sources. We will see how that plays out today.

— Arthur Staple

- Upstate_isles


So in other words, a typical Islanders free agent frenzy
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: In Lou we bust, NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 1 @ 11:14 AM ET
So in other words, a typical Islanders free agent frenzy
- PeteM

Who cares, they're not making any noise without Tavares.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:18 AM ET
Who cares, they're not making any noise without Tavares.
- eichiefs9

#Lose for Hughes!
David_Volek
New York Islanders
Location: Thank you Lou!
Joined: 05.01.2013

Jul 1 @ 11:20 AM ET
#Lose for Hughes !
- JohnScammo

JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:21 AM ET

- David_Volek

I stole that from YOU!
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 1 @ 11:22 AM ET
Who cares, they're not making any noise without Tavares.
- eichiefs9

Did they with him? Dont get me wrong they are a way better team with him but they won Richard. Get ride of the terrible contracts snow gave out and build around barzal and beau pulock anf the kids they just drafted. Is it what we want no but what options are there? Lets see what lou can do
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:25 AM ET
Did they with him? Dont get me wrong they are a way better team with him but they won Richard. Get ride of the terrible contracts snow gave out and build around barzal and beau pulock anf the kids they just drafted. Is it what we want no but what options are there? Lets see what lou can do
- Upstate_isles

In Lou We Trust

In fairness, I don't think even Lou can shed all those bad contracts in a few months.

Joined: 12.31.1969

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