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ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 24 @ 10:24 AM ET
Stone seemed to have genuine interest in staying. I don't get the feeling he's a "loves the spotlight" kinda guy, which may be something that works in our favor.
- eichiefs9


Stone can easily get lost playing for the Isles. Isles can go undefeated and the media will still be talking about the Knicks.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 24 @ 10:24 AM ET
The future of that franchise between Karlsson leaving, Melnyk, Dorion, losing what could be Hughes in the next draft, etc is so (frank)ing bleak Stone would be a (frank)ing moron to stay there. Sorry get over whatever bizarre attachment you have to that craptastic city or team😂
- Cptmjl

To your point earlier, I'd love to see WPG/CGY/BOS/NSH all go out and pick up secondary guys, like Hayes/Johansson/Nyquist/etc...

That would really put Dorion in a hell of a position with Stone. Risk losing him for nothing or have to drop the price to more along the lines of what Duchene got.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 24 @ 10:25 AM ET
Maybe, that'd probably be the sticking point in the negotiations. Picks are picks, but the real debate is on who's NHL ready and how high guys' ceilings are.

Here, based on what you added to your post before...

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...nators-high-asking-price/

“The market is drying up on Mark Stone for the Ottawa Senators, for no other reason than because they’re ask is so high,” Sportsnet’s Nick Kypreos reported Saturday on Hockey Night in Canada‘s ‘Headlines’ segment. “They’d love to mirror the pieces that they got with Duchene. The difference is the prospects out of Columbus are regarded as maybe Bs and Cs, and what they’re looking for for Stone is grade-A — guys that actually can step in and play right away.

“And right now, there doesn’t seem to be any teams biting, including the Winnipeg Jets.”


Maybe they ultimately take something like 19 1st, 20 conditional 1st, Aho and Bellows. Still a hefty price, but it'd allow us to keep Beauvillier in the fold.

- eichiefs9


Cannot blame teams not wanting to give up prime prospects for a player that can walk. Bailey a number 1 and someone like Aho is more than fair.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 10:26 AM ET
To your point earlier, I'd love to see WPG/CGY/BOS/NSH all go out and pick up secondary guys, like Hayes/Johansson/Nyquist/etc...

That would really put Dorion in a hell of a position with Stone. Risk losing him for nothing or have to drop the price to more along the lines of what Duchene got.

- eichiefs9

It’s not probable but it’s possible. That sort of shat only happens to Snow😂
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 10:27 AM ET
Cannot blame teams not wanting to give up prime prospects for a player that can walk. Bailey a number 1 and someone like Aho is more than fair.
- ses111

They’re going to be needing some salary soon...
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 24 @ 10:30 AM ET
It’s not probable but it’s possible. That sort of shat only happens to Snow😂
- Cptmjl

I don't get the feeling Nashville is going to make a big move for him. They need better centers and I'm sure they're going to want to save the cap space for taking a run at Duchene in the summer.

WPG or CGY seem like the big players for him. If CGY adds Hayes and WPG goes out and gets a Nyquist or Johansson or someone...that leaves us looking good.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 10:32 AM ET
I don't get the feeling Nashville is going to make a big move for him. They need better centers and I'm sure they're going to want to save the cap space for taking a run at Duchene in the summer.

WPG or CGY seem like the big players for him. If CGY adds Hayes and WPG goes out and gets a Nyquist or Johansson or someone...that leaves us looking good.

- eichiefs9

I have a feeling we’re going to make a play for Johansson. He’s versatile and has a history with Trotz. That is unless Trotz doesn’t think he’s a good fit for this club...
TB4LIH
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.21.2019

Feb 24 @ 10:39 AM ET
I have a feeling we’re going to make a play for Johansson. He’s versatile and has a history with Trotz. That is unless Trotz doesn’t think he’s a good fit for this club...
- Cptmjl

Problem is johansson is borderline useless for this club when considering flip, Leo, and ladd will all play when healthy (occasional scratch possible for ladd the get legs under him) there is no room for someone who is not a legit top 6 at the moment, whether or not we should actually sit uncle leo
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 24 @ 10:42 AM ET
I have a feeling we’re going to make a play for Johansson. He’s versatile and has a history with Trotz. That is unless Trotz doesn’t think he’s a good fit for this club...
- Cptmjl

I'm fine with Johansson, he's healthy and playing really well on a dogshit team. But someone has to come out of the lineup for him and I'm not really sure who it'd be. It may be a silly suggestion given their success, but I wonder if Martin could be that player. I don't really know who'd slot in on the 4th line...but I can't figure out who to take out otherwise. Komarov would be my vote but I'm not so sure the team goes for that.
TB4LIH
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.21.2019

Feb 24 @ 10:42 AM ET
And I know a lot of people vilify beau, but kid is only 21 and may have his second 20 goal season this year. Consistency is biggest thing with him, as it is with most young players. Guy plays hard, but I feel like he doesn’t read the play well and skates around without much direction, which should also improve with experience. Trading him along with 2 firsts for stone seems like an overpayment without a guarantee of an extension
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 10:44 AM ET
Problem is johansson is borderline useless for this club when considering flip, Leo, and ladd will all play when healthy (occasional scratch possible for ladd the get legs under him) there is no room for someone who is not a legit top 6 at the moment, whether or not we should actually sit uncle leo
- TB4LIH

He has similar points to some in our perceived top 6 and all of these trades are under the assumption that a roster player is going the other way of course to make room. This is my imaginary world you guys a just guests.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 10:45 AM ET
And I know a lot of people vilify beau, but kid is only 21 and may have his second 20 goal season this year. Consistency is biggest thing with him, as it is with most young players. Guy plays hard, but I feel like he doesn’t read the play well and skates around without much direction, which should also improve with experience. Trading him along with 2 firsts for stone seems like an overpayment without a guarantee of an extension
- TB4LIH

That’s with him signing a contract. I do it and don’t look back the more I think about it.
TB4LIH
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.21.2019

Feb 24 @ 10:46 AM ET
He has similar points to some in our perceived top 6 and all of these trades are under the assumption that a roster player is going the other way of course to make room. This is my imaginary world you guys a just guests.
- Cptmjl

True, I just don’t see a roster player going the other way for him. And even if someone did, would most likely be a lateral move...although with added bonus of moose knuckle being dropped from barzals wing
TB4LIH
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.21.2019

Feb 24 @ 10:48 AM ET
That’s with him signing a contract. I do it and don’t look back the more I think about it.
- Cptmjl

With him signing a contract, done. More just trying to play devils advocate for beau.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 10:48 AM ET
I'm fine with Johansson, he's healthy and playing really well on a dogshit team. But someone has to come out of the lineup for him and I'm not really sure who it'd be. It may be a silly suggestion given their success, but I wonder if Martin could be that player. I don't really know who'd slot in on the 4th line...but I can't figure out who to take out otherwise. Komarov would be my vote but I'm not so sure the team goes for that.
- eichiefs9

Nobody is taking on Komarov’s contract that would actually hurt the overall trade value of whatever we’re offering I don’t care how awesome he is in the locker room. We would have throw in kuhnackl into any trade that’s legitimately the only way this happens. Martin isn’t going anywhere.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 24 @ 10:49 AM ET
That’s with him signing a contract. I do it and don’t look back the more I think about it.
- Cptmjl

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 10:51 AM ET
With him signing a contract, done. More just trying to play devils advocate for beau.
- TB4LIH

I don’t hate Beau but I also don’t see much of an upside besides what we’re seeing with him in the long term. He may turn a corner and prove me wrong but I’m not super high on him. If he has a high value right now and we could get a great player signed to term back right now I would trade him. Just my opinion.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 24 @ 10:52 AM ET
Nobody is taking on Komarov’s contract that would actually hurt the overall trade value of whatever we’re offering I don’t care how awesome he is in the locker room. We would have throw in kuhnackl into any trade that’s legitimately the only way this happens. Martin isn’t going anywhere.
- Cptmjl

No I meant those guys being the 13th forward, not trading them
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 10:53 AM ET
No I meant those guys being the 13th forward, not trading them
- eichiefs9

Gotcha.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 10:55 AM ET

- eichiefs9

😂

We would be pretty much breaking even points wise on that trade. Little bit of an overpayment in my opinion but wouldn’t be an earth shattering loss in assets either.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 24 @ 11:02 AM ET
😂

We would be pretty much breaking even points wise on that trade. Little bit of an overpayment in my opinion but wouldn’t be an earth shattering loss in assets either.

- Cptmjl

Yeah it wasn't totally serious. But man, we'd be a defensive juggernaut.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 24 @ 11:12 AM ET
Isles prospect put a guy through the glass

https://deadspin.com/coll...key-man-to-ca-1832852753?
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 24 @ 11:16 AM ET
Isles prospect put a guy through the glass

https://deadspin.com/coll...key-man-to-ca-1832852753?

- eichiefs9




That looked like a Bailey type hit.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 11:18 AM ET
Isles prospect put a guy through the glass

https://deadspin.com/coll...key-man-to-ca-1832852753?

- eichiefs9

Jake Pivonka for Stone one for one.
PeteM
New York Islanders
Location: Bklyn/Uniondale/Belmont, NY
Joined: 07.10.2007

Feb 24 @ 11:18 AM ET
He has similar points to some in our perceived top 6 and all of these trades are under the assumption that a roster player is going the other way of course to make room. This is my imaginary world you guys a just guests.
- Cptmjl


Considering how Trotz is constantly talking about the chemistry in the room I don't see them trading anyone off the current roster in season.
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