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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 13 @ 2:42 PM ET
I know, but he's starting to make me think I have to drop him from my fantasy squad and I hate him for that
- eichiefs9

😂
Give him another week.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 13 @ 2:42 PM ET


https://www.sportsnet.ca/...ors-trade-deadline-nears/
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 13 @ 2:42 PM ET
Lee has really been invisible lately. Do you think Lou would really low ball him though?
- ses111

No, but I do think his value is going to be real hard to gauge and I have to imagine that, at least initially, they were very far apart.

His agent is going to want him to get paid like a 40+ goal scorer but the reality is that he's kind of one-dimensional. If he's not depositing pucks into the net from the top of the crease, he's not really doing much else. Just my opinion, but I think it's gonna be hard to put a price tag on him.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 13 @ 2:43 PM ET
Barzal and Panarin would be dynamic. Have to think it would mean giving up Dobson or Wilde for a signed Panarin?
- ses111

I don't honestly know. What I do know is that nobody will be trading for a signed Panarin.

His new agent is already on record stating that he's going to market on July 1st no matter what. Expect a gaggle of pajama-boy-like meetings in the days leading up to July 1st.

Isles aren't trading prospects like that for a rental and I'm pretty confident about that.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 13 @ 2:44 PM ET
New York Islanders
The Islanders trade for Artemi Panarin. Lou Lamoriello's scouts have been following the Blue Jackets like groupies, so something's cooking. This move makes great sense for the Islanders, who could use Panarin in several line configurations (but, mostly, we'd love to see what he and Mat Barzal could accomplish). It might also make sense for Panarin if living in New York City is ultimately what he's after, as has been rumored, since the Islanders could then offer him an eight-year deal.
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http://www.espn.com/nhl/s...ctions-nhl-trade-deadline

Here's a freebie for the broke boat pilot

- eichiefs9

I still can’t see Panarin happening. If we weren’t in the same conference or even division it be aimed exponentially more realistic. The only thing that makes it plausible for me still is is having a ufa in Eberle that could contribute now to their team along with whatever we would have to obviously add. Who knows maybe we could throw Bailey in there also😂
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 13 @ 2:45 PM ET
I still can’t see Panarin happening. If we weren’t in the same conference or even division it be aimed exponentially more realistic. The only thing that makes it plausible for me still is is having a ufa in Eberle that could contribute now to their team along with whatever we would have to obviously add. Who knows maybe we could throw Bailey in there also😂
- Cptmjl

Just a gut feeling here, but I think we're gonna see teams start (slowly) to shift away from the "we're not trading our guy in-division" mentality. If the best return you can get is from a division rival, you hold your nose and make the move. It's absolutely retarded to take a lesser deal because you're afraid of seeing the player you trade succeed in your division.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 13 @ 2:50 PM ET
I don't honestly know. What I do know is that nobody will be trading for a signed Panarin.

His new agent is already on record stating that he's going to market on July 1st no matter what. Expect a gaggle of pajama-boy-like meetings in the days leading up to July 1st.

Isles aren't trading prospects like that for a rental and I'm pretty confident about that.

- eichiefs9


This is good news. I would trade a #1 for an unsigned Panarin but not much more than that. Rather make a move around Bailey or Eberle. I have to think the Isles have a very good chance signing him as an FA if Panarin and Bob going to Florida is not real.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 13 @ 2:51 PM ET
Just a gut feeling here, but I think we're gonna see teams start (slowly) to shift away from the "we're not trading our guy in-division" mentality. If the best return you can get is from a division rival, you hold your nose and make the move. It's absolutely retarded to take a lesser deal because you're afraid of seeing the player you trade succeed in your division.
- eichiefs9


It does make sense to make the best deal regardless of division.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 13 @ 2:53 PM ET
No, but I do think his value is going to be real hard to gauge and I have to imagine that, at least initially, they were very far apart.

His agent is going to want him to get paid like a 40+ goal scorer but the reality is that he's kind of one-dimensional. If he's not depositing pucks into the net from the top of the crease, he's not really doing much else. Just my opinion, but I think it's gonna be hard to put a price tag on him.

- eichiefs9


Hope schwein does not read this.

It's true though. Lee is tough to gauge in terms of contract. I think he makes a fine captain but he is sort of one-dimensional.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 13 @ 2:54 PM ET
This is good news. I would trade a #1 for an unsigned Panarin but not much more than that.
- ses111

I really wonder if they couldn't sell CBJ on taking Bailey as part of a return for him.

He's a RW with term at a reasonable price and no NTC/NMC. Despite all of our opinions, I think it's pretty obvious that fans are emotional and quick to get too high or too low on a player. NHL execs may see his recent success and believe that it can be replicated again and the fact that he would be locked in for another 5 years after this one might be attractive to Jarmo.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Feb 13 @ 2:55 PM ET
Just a gut feeling here, but I think we're gonna see teams start (slowly) to shift away from the "we're not trading our guy in-division" mentality. If the best return you can get is from a division rival, you hold your nose and make the move. It's absolutely retarded to take a lesser deal because you're afraid of seeing the player you trade succeed in your division.
- eichiefs9


Especially if they can sign in the division on July 1st anyway.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 13 @ 2:55 PM ET
Hope schwein does not read this.

It's true though. Lee is tough to gauge in terms of contract. I think he makes a fine captain but he is sort of one-dimensional.

- ses111

Sorry, flagged this

Listen, I love Lee. He seems like a great guy/teammate and is a good leader. He's just kind of one-dimensional, albeit an extremely valuable dimension. But if he's not scoring goals he kinda doesn't do a whole lot else.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 13 @ 2:56 PM ET
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I assume you mean points with his best year being 70 points 6 years ago. Don’t get me wrong I don’t dislike Duchene just wondering if it’s worth it even with our lack of center depth? I’m on the fence with it after thinking about it. I was thinking where do I sign a couple of weeks ago. Not a clean cut yes for me now like it was. Not a no either so it’s a maybe.😂

- Cptmjl



Yes Points sorry .

Maybe
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 13 @ 2:58 PM ET
Sorry, flagged this

Listen, I love Lee. He seems like a great guy/teammate and is a good leader. He's just kind of one-dimensional, albeit an extremely valuable dimension. But if he's not scoring goals he kinda doesn't do a whole lot else.

- eichiefs9




Did you flag this or was it schwein?

Lot to like about Lee but you are right. Outside of scoring, Lee is not a setup player or great defensively.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 13 @ 3:00 PM ET
I really wonder if they couldn't sell CBJ on taking Bailey as part of a return for him.

He's a RW with term at a reasonable price and no NTC/NMC. Despite all of our opinions, I think it's pretty obvious that fans are emotional and quick to get too high or too low on a player. NHL execs may see his recent success and believe that it can be replicated again and the fact that he would be locked in for another 5 years after this one might be attractive to Jarmo.

- eichiefs9


I mentioned in the past a team like the Sens should have interest in Bailey. I do think Bailey needs a change of scenery. Players and coaches can get stale in the same place.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 13 @ 3:07 PM ET
Lee is having a bad stretch but he’ll get it together and from everything I can see seems to have taken over the leadership role well. He’ll be signed. Nelson being a center has much more value to this team then Eberle and he has been playing pretty well. I’m not saying he’s awesome by any means but he’ll most likely be signed also. Eberle doesn’t seem to be part of this teams plans.
- Cptmjl



I honestly think Nelson has been the most consistent out of the top 6 forwards.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 13 @ 3:07 PM ET
Sorry, flagged this

Listen, I love Lee. He seems like a great guy/teammate and is a good leader. He's just kind of one-dimensional, albeit an extremely valuable dimension. But if he's not scoring goals he kinda doesn't do a whole lot else.

- eichiefs9

He has been working hard and fore checking well it has helped that line stay in the offensive zone. May not be scoring currently but hes had chances and is still drawing defenders down low in front of the net allowing eberle and Nelson more room to skate
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 13 @ 3:09 PM ET
I honestly think Nelson has been the most consistent out of the top 6 forwards.
- nyisles7

I agree with this and beau has had two solid games in a row time to put him back on 2nd line and mdc back to 3rd
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 13 @ 3:10 PM ET
I agree with this and beau has had two solid games in a row time to put him back on 2nd line and mdc back to 3rd
- Upstate_isles


I would agree with this.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Feb 13 @ 3:10 PM ET
I really wonder if they couldn't sell CBJ on taking Bailey as part of a return for him.

He's a RW with term at a reasonable price and no NTC/NMC. Despite all of our opinions, I think it's pretty obvious that fans are emotional and quick to get too high or too low on a player. NHL execs may see his recent success and believe that it can be replicated again and the fact that he would be locked in for another 5 years after this one might be attractive to Jarmo.

- eichiefs9

Columbus is in a playoff race, so trading Panarin would leave a hole in their roster at the worst possible time. Thus, if they trade him anyway, I would think they'd want a roster player in return as part of a package. I don't know how much Bailey would help, because he's a RW, whereas Panarin is a LW. Maybe guys can be shifted around, however.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 13 @ 3:12 PM ET
Sorry, flagged this

Listen, I love Lee. He seems like a great guy/teammate and is a good leader. He's just kind of one-dimensional, albeit an extremely valuable dimension. But if he's not scoring goals he kinda doesn't do a whole lot else.

- eichiefs9



He’s real good in the corners holding off defenders and holding and winning the puck as well.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 13 @ 3:12 PM ET
Columbus is in a playoff race, so trading Panarin would leave a hole in their roster at the worst possible time. Thus, if they trade him anyway, I would think they'd want a roster player in return as part of a package. I don't know how much Bailey would help, because he's a RW, whereas Panarin is a LW. Maybe guys can be shifted around, however.
- JohnScammo



Hey you want to come over to the yurt and watch a game in the future?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 13 @ 3:13 PM ET
I agree with this and beau has had two solid games in a row time to put him back on 2nd line and mdc back to 3rd
- Upstate_isles



I agree with you on that as well
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 13 @ 3:14 PM ET
He has been working hard and fore checking well it has helped that line stay in the offensive zone. May not be scoring currently but hes had chances and is still drawing defenders down low in front of the net allowing eberle and Nelson more room to skate
- Upstate_isles

Yeah I'm not bashing the guy, I love him. Working hard is important and it's great to see, but at some point he's gotta step up the goal production. He's not a bottom-six energy guy, he's on the team to score goals.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 13 @ 3:17 PM ET
Yeah I'm not bashing the guy, I love him. Working hard is important and it's great to see, but at some point he's gotta step up the goal production. He's not a bottom-six energy guy, he's on the team to score goals.
- eichiefs9

Yup but at least you can see the work ethic with him he will get one and then more will come it's a slump I think and hes due
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