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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:25 PM ET
Entirely possible. It's a tough sell to your fans be 4pts out of 1st in your division with just under half a season to go and just trade away two of your star players because they're pending UFA's.

And just to be clear, when I say those guys have little-to-no value...I mean in a trade. Not to the Isles organization or us, as fans. We all, rightfully, laid into Snow for getting Collberg back for Vanek when we knew he wasn't going to sign. Collberg became a running joke.

Collberg's first year in Bridgeport: 43gp 4-14-18pts for .42ppg
Bellows first year in Bridgeport (to-date): 46gp 11-5-16pts for .35ppg

Obviously I'm not saying Bellows = Collberg, but the production isn't that far off and we all freaked out when Snow got Collberg back for a pending UFA.

- eichiefs9

I know how you meant it and I disagree. I believe he has more value than little to none😂
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 31 @ 2:26 PM ET
I get all of that but Bellows isn't a high-end prospect. Jarmo 100% proved last year, with Jack Johnson, that he is going to set his price and demand it be met. If you don't meet it, he'll keep the player.

We can argue about that logic until we're blue in the face....but the reality is that if he wants a 1st + two high-end prospects then he's either going to get it or treat Panarin like his rental and just ride it out with him.

That article specifically talks about CBJ taking the potential return for Panarin and flipping some/all of those assets elsewhere for immediate help.

- eichiefs9

I know Im just being cheap I could see dobson or wilde going with a pick we have a lot of good d and they arent all going to make it so lets use one or two and make a move. I was high on ville pokka and we sent him over for leddy and the guy never really saw nhl action so lets be willing to move an unknown for a proven commodity
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:26 PM ET
Arthur Staple
@StapeAthletic

42s
Same #Isles lines and D pairs as when they were last together. No Hickey/Ladd on the ice.

- eichiefs9

Thanks Arthur that was like a year ago😂
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 31 @ 2:27 PM ET
I know how you meant it and I disagree. I believe he has more value than little to none😂
- Cptmjl

That's fine and, for the record, I wasn't referring to him in the "none" part of that statement. There's value there, I just think that if some GM wanted him it would be because they think they can buy low.
ses111
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 31 @ 2:27 PM ET
I think if they continue to drop games and they know he’s gone they’ll take the best possible offer.
- Cptmjl


Going to be very interesting Cpt. Wish the deadline was even earlier.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:28 PM ET
I'm not bearish on him. It's simply a fact that he's not having a good season, which is going to affect his trade value. He could still end up a very-useful to very-good player. But, at the moment, he's not good and he's not going to move the needle for other GM's.
- eichiefs9

Of course it’ll effect his trade value. Are you going to tell me the earth is round in a second😂

I just think he has more value than you think. That is all move on Jesus 😂
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 31 @ 2:29 PM ET
I think if they continue to drop games and they know he’s gone they’ll take the best possible offer.
- Cptmjl

If they fall off a cliff this month, maybe. That's about the only way I see them just taking whatever they can get...if the playoffs are out of the picture, or seem likely to be.

I think that if they're a playoff team then they're going to dig their heels in on the return.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 31 @ 2:29 PM ET
Of course it’ll effect his trade value. Are you going to tell me the earth is round in a second😂

I just think he has more value than you think. That is all move on Jesus 😂

- Cptmjl

Everyone knows the earth is flat, idiot
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 31 @ 2:29 PM ET
I'll roll with this

Andrew Gross

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Extra Fs: Kuhnhackl, Johnston
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Extra D: Sbisa (Seidenberg)
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:30 PM ET
Going to be very interesting Cpt. Wish the deadline was even earlier.
- ses111

I should say they should take the best possible offer. These guys go off the rails sometimes. The way they’ve been playing you have to wonder if between him and Bob it’s becoming a locker room distraction at this point.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 31 @ 2:31 PM ET
Everyone knows the earth is flat, idiot
- eichiefs9

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 31 @ 2:31 PM ET
I should say they should take the best possible offer. These guys go off the rails sometimes. The way they’ve been playing you have to wonder if between him and Bob it’s becoming a locker room distraction at this point.
- Cptmjl

Panarin got booed at home when they announced him in the starting lineup Tuesday night
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 31 @ 2:32 PM ET

- Upstate_isles

It's just the ilerminaty lying to you

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:32 PM ET
I'll roll with this

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Back at #Isles practice
Lee-Nelson-Eberle
Beauvillier-Barzal-Bailey
Dal Colle-Filppula-Komarov
Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck
Extra Fs: Kuhnhackl, Johnston
Leddy-Boychuk
Pelech-Pulock
Toews-Mayfield
Extra D: Sbisa (Seidenberg)
Lehner and Greiss

- Upstate_isles

I know we’re playing well and Eberle has picked up his game a bit lately but if he starts to stumble again I’d like to see him and Bailey switch spots. Bailey has been a defensive nightmare to behold out there.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 31 @ 2:33 PM ET
Panarin got booed at home when they announced him in the starting lineup Tuesday night
- eichiefs9

That article said it was more of a disappointing boo not a vicious boo
is there a difference either way its not positive
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:33 PM ET
Panarin got booed at home when they announced him in the starting lineup Tuesday night
- eichiefs9

Yeah it makes you think there’s some internal stuff there and you couldn’t really blame the team it’s a tough situation. Not saying we’re getting him by any means but you have to think there’s a very real possibility he’s on his way out at or before the trade deadline.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: You're exactly the problem with trying to have a conversation on here. - Tanner
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jan 31 @ 2:33 PM ET
I don't know what Panarin's biggest motivators are, but he's got a Cup already. He's 27, will be 28 at the start of next season. My guess is he's looking to cash in on a big deal. I don't even know how interested the Rangers would be. He'll be entering the end of his prime around the time they figure to start being more competitive, but in the next few years they're going to start having serious questions in goal.

Hank is a legend but he's gonna be 37 in a month and he's already starting to decline. Shesterkin, as far as I'm aware, still hasn't really indicated his willingness to come to NA. If he doesn't come they're gonna be in a tough spot.

Rangers will always be competitive because they're a big-market Original-Six team that plays in a desirable location for young, rich athletes. But they have some major holes down the middle and, sooner than later, in goal.

- eichiefs9


Actually Georgy has been pretty damn good in goal. I would have no issue to see how he would take over the starting spot
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 31 @ 2:33 PM ET
That article said it was more of a disappointing boo not a vicious boo
is there a difference either way its not positive

- Upstate_isles

Yeah, can't wait to hear all that disappointment rain down on Tavares in 28 days
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 31 @ 2:34 PM ET
I know we’re playing well and Eberle has picked up his game a bit lately but if he starts to stumble again I’d like to see him and Bailey switch spots. Bailey has been a defensive nightmare to behold out there.
- Cptmjl

very fair

he has made some ghastly turnovers
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 31 @ 2:35 PM ET
Yeah it makes you think there’s some internal stuff there and you couldn’t really blame the team it’s a tough situation. Not saying we’re getting him by any means but you have to think there’s a very real possibility he’s on his way out at or before the trade deadline.
- Cptmjl

For sure, I think what Columbus does over the next 2-3 weeks is really going to dictate what Jarmo does. If they fall out of the playoff race, he'd be dumb for not taking the best offer for Panarin. But if they're still in the thick of things, I'd totally understand setting the price high and not budging until someone either met it or didn't.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:35 PM ET
That article said it was more of a disappointing boo not a vicious boo
is there a difference either way its not positive

- Upstate_isles

It won’t hold a candle to the boo on Feb 28. What’s the next level after vicious?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 31 @ 2:36 PM ET
Actually Georgy has been pretty damn good in goal. I would have no issue to see how he would take over the starting spot
- mdw7413

Yeah but I feel like this happens a lot. Back-up does well in limited action and then someone gives them a starting job and they totally blow. He's got a career-high of 17 NHL games in a season. Asking him to deal with the rigors of starting 50-60 is a massive leap.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 31 @ 2:37 PM ET
It won’t hold a candle to the boo on Feb 28. What’s the next level after vicious?
- Cptmjl

Murderous? Threatening physical harm-erous?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:37 PM ET
very fair

he has made some ghastly turnovers

- Upstate_isles

I’m hoping this break did him well and he comes back with some more effort. It was getting hard to watch him half arsing it out there.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: You're exactly the problem with trying to have a conversation on here. - Tanner
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jan 31 @ 2:39 PM ET
Yeah but I feel like this happens a lot. Back-up does well in limited action and then someone gives them a starting job and they totally blow. He's got a career-high of 17 NHL games in a season. Asking him to deal with the rigors of starting 50-60 is a massive leap.
- eichiefs9


Well when you think about it, where would the Isles honestly be if Lehner wasn't having the amazing season he is having. I'm glad he is, its a great story, and he had a lot of demons, but can you hang all your hopes on Lehner continuing to play the way he has?
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