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InTheWood
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: collingwood, ON
Joined: 07.01.2015

May 1 @ 10:10 AM ET
I don't either, and if I am the Leafs I don't want even that deal.
- Aetherial


Whoa! If the yotes want to give up Larsson, domi, strome the 7th and more?? We don't take all that? I think we need to at least consider it.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 1 @ 10:10 AM ET
So, something I am thinking this morning: Now that the leafs will have Mathews and íF they are able to sign Stamkos do they trade someone like willy to fill another need like top 4 D I and goalie?
- InTheWood


Absolutely not. Keep Willy, Marner, etc. I'd much rather entertain trading JvR, Kadri etc in this instance
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 1 @ 10:11 AM ET
I do that deal immediately.

And then plan to make the playoffs this year.

Imagine that line up with Stamkos. Could challenge for the conference title.

- Atomic Wedgie

Domi Stamkos Jvr
Nylander Kadri Marner
Strome bozak Komarov
4th line

Rielly oel
gardiner somebody good
3rd pairing

Poop in net

Not a bad lineup. Would need a year or two to ripen, but would be fun to watch.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 1 @ 10:12 AM ET
Whoa! If the yotes want to give up Larsson, domi, strome the 7th and more?? We don't take all that? I think we need to at least consider it.
- InTheWood


Yeah, I guess.

I just think that a chance at a player that Matthews has the potential to become is something that is so rare, I might never see the Leafs have that chance again.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 1 @ 10:13 AM ET
Whoa! If the yotes want to give up Larsson, domi, strome the 7th and more?? We don't take all that? I think we need to at least consider it.
- InTheWood

I said this last night:

As soon as the 'yotes hire a new GM, Lou should call him every franking day until the draft, seeing what he is willing to offer.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 1 @ 10:17 AM ET
I said this last night:

As soon as the 'yotes hire a new GM, Lou should call him every franking day until the draft, seeing what he is willing to offer.

- Atomic Wedgie


That's it Wedgie.

Choose a barn. I will see you there.
alfsly11
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 1 @ 10:18 AM ET
This is an extremely long letter I wrote to Shanahan one night a while a go when I couldn't sleep. Terrible grammar, its pretty much one long sentence and its fairly lame. That is the warning label so please don't bash the snot out of me it's a freaking glorious day in Leafs nation and gave me the nuts to post this.

Dear Brendan
I want to start this off with a random “I am proud of you”, lines like that are usually reserved for my kids who are amazing and I truly mean it. It usually comes from above going downward in this case it that could not be more untrue. By no stretch of the imagination am I in a position to judge or loftier on any perch than you. As a fan of the Leafs I truly see you as an employee of the fans as a group but not held accountable to any singular fan ever but I think that accountability should extend to the masses. The fans should be your ultimate driver, more so than shareholders, owners or any other entity and I truly believe this. Current, future and past fans need to be the true focal point and all the other stuff falls into place, profits, share price, bonuses etc. I think you and the group you have assembled gets this across the board. Current- providing transparency and not accepting past attitudes and behaviours that were prevalent before your regime. The hiring of Mike Babcock addresses both the current and the future and regardless of the recent amazing play because of the coach we are going to stay true to the course. Your dedication to the past as well is evident, as events to honour are done respectfully and professionally. The understanding of the foundation that is the most amazing team in any sport was created years and even decades before we were even born. I am proud of you for bringing respectability and pride and hope back to my team. Doing it the right way, I don’t agree with everything you have done or will do and I shouldn’t I’m a fan what do I know. I hope that you yourself actually second guess and regret some of your decisions, it’s a sign of accountability and growth and regardless of position those are keys to future success.
Funny side note I actually personally know you, we went to the same high school while you played for the Knights at Laurier. I’m quite sure you don’t remember me but we actually went out one night and you saved me from getting my teeth kicked in. We went to GT’s with your girlfriend at the time it was either Ingrid or Monique and I forget which one. You and your girlfriend that night actually said I was the funniest person you had ever met (I was pretty funny especially with a little stink eye sauce in me). The reason why I bring this up is because it lends to the fact of who you are and who you were. You were a solid guy, black and white, great sense of humour but a genuine down to earth solid person. I’m sure as we all do you have holes in your game but my personal small sample size and what I see through the media goggles has us in great hands. You were in a position back then to be cocky and arrogant and you never were. Shayne Stevenson now that was a different story (I’m just kidding I actually liked Shayne but he was cocky).
I did not graduate and have what equates to a grade nine education, don’t know if you ever had Mr. Day but he was brutal and if you ever read this you will quickly realize he didn’t forward my letter writing skills. I was watching the game tonight and wanted to throw my crazy two cents in on the analytics game. Please hear out this crazy idea and throw it around in your melon to see if it makes any sense. Can analytics and personal or even personality traits be used in conjunction with each other in hockey. I’ll try to explain this and give an example. Baseball is all about analytics and metrics and has been for far longer than hockey and we see it play out in every pitch now, infield shifts, pitching inside etc. It plays to the variables, we pitch inside and we move our guy two feet over, the trait of the player is to pull so we load that side of the field etc. Now use Bernier as an example who I think is an amazing goalie but goalies are a rare breed that is so much confidence based. If you look at his statistics and what I am proposing is strictly memory based speculation that he sucks when he does not face as many shots. When he faces a ton of shots his save% again I am speculating skyrockets. Analytics can prove these points but I am somewhat confident that is the case, I think that it can even be extended to early shots. The beginning part of the year when it seemed the first goal was on the first shot that first shot was already well into the game and the leafs carried the play early. Extend analytics to look at stuff like this for trends and see if these trends can be played. If any of these trends are real and can be verified then create the infield shift. Allow the opposition an early shot or shots as long as the analytics back up the facts. I know this is crazy thought but I think it might be something to at least have a discussion about.
If you had time to read this I truly appreciate it and because I am a cheeseball if there is any way that I could get something for my son I would be a hero. My son is a pretty special kid, he actually has spina bifida and he was diagnosed with this while in the womb. He was diagnosed to never walk and have a lifetime of complications. My wife who is a true hero had what is called in utero repair, they actually took Gabe out operated on him and put him back in. He still has complications as he cannot control his bladder and bowel but he runs and and has the heart of a lion. He is 13 and tries out for every sport and track event and never gets deterred that he finishes last. He is a blessing and is truly blessed with where he is in his lot in life. The only Leafs jersey he has is Kessels and so he wasn’t doing back flips with the trade, I think he finally gets it now. If I could get anything signed if possible I would be happy to pay for it or donate some money. I feel like a cheesbucket for asking for anything but then I realize the billion dollar corporation can probably afford it.
If you did I truly appreciate you reading this and if there is never any correspondence it doesn’t change one iota the fact that I am absolutely grateful that you are at the helm to lead the most storied franchise in all of sport to its glorious potential.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 1 @ 10:19 AM ET
The bottom fell out of mine a few years ago.

Literally the bottom ceramic piece just came off when I poured coffee in it one morning.

- gravyface

That is classic
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

May 1 @ 10:19 AM ET
Domi Stamkos Jvr
Nylander Kadri Marner
Strome bozak Komarov
4th line

Rielly oel
gardiner somebody good
3rd pairing

Poop in net

Not a bad lineup. Would need a year or two to ripen, but would be fun to watch.

- Atomic Wedgie

I would ask for Dvorak too. Him and marner have some good chemistry
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

May 1 @ 10:20 AM ET
That is classic
- Zezel

I have a feeling it was in February, maybe even january
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

May 1 @ 10:21 AM ET
I do not agree wedgie.

The toughest thing to acquire is an elite #1 C. Matthews has a chance to be that guy. None of the other pieces is that tough to find IMO.

- Aetherial

It's not tough to find one of the best dmen in the league?
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

May 1 @ 10:22 AM ET
pics?


- Aetherial



I strongly second this!
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

May 1 @ 10:22 AM ET
These trade proposals are ridiculous. Just enjoy the lottery win. Enjoy the butt hurt from all the other fan bases..
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 1 @ 10:23 AM ET
It's not tough to find one of the best dmen in the league?
- ClarksonDavid


Not as tough as winning a lottery in a year where there is a potential franchise #1C.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 1 @ 10:24 AM ET
Want a good laugh?

Here's the Leafs' 2015-16 opening day roster.

http://www.thestar.com/sp...r-for-2015-16-season.html
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 1 @ 10:24 AM ET
Shots fired by Glucky!!!

Agreed that Matthews is "certainly not Eichel". Eichel isn't a bad player, but we've already got a few of his caliber, and he's certainly not the kinda guy you're hoping for after finishing dead last.

Though, even if Matthews only tops out as an Eichel-like player, at least we didn't have to watch two historically bad rosters, built entirely for the purpose of getting someone else, to get him.

That would suck.

- Feeling Glucky?



Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 1 @ 10:25 AM ET
This is an extremely long letter I wrote to Shanahan one night a while a go when I couldn't sleep. Terrible grammar, its pretty much one long sentence and its fairly lame. That is the warning label so please don't bash the snot out of me it's a freaking glorious day in Leafs nation and gave me the nuts to post this.

Dear Brendan
I want to start this off with a random “I am proud of you”, lines like that are usually reserved for my kids who are amazing and I truly mean it. It usually comes from above going downward in this case it that could not be more untrue. By no stretch of the imagination am I in a position to judge or loftier on any perch than you. As a fan of the Leafs I truly see you as an employee of the fans as a group but not held accountable to any singular fan ever but I think that accountability should extend to the masses. The fans should be your ultimate driver, more so than shareholders, owners or any other entity and I truly believe this. Current, future and past fans need to be the true focal point and all the other stuff falls into place, profits, share price, bonuses etc. I think you and the group you have assembled gets this across the board. Current- providing transparency and not accepting past attitudes and behaviours that were prevalent before your regime. The hiring of Mike Babcock addresses both the current and the future and regardless of the recent amazing play because of the coach we are going to stay true to the course. Your dedication to the past as well is evident, as events to honour are done respectfully and professionally. The understanding of the foundation that is the most amazing team in any sport was created years and even decades before we were even born. I am proud of you for bringing respectability and pride and hope back to my team. Doing it the right way, I don’t agree with everything you have done or will do and I shouldn’t I’m a fan what do I know. I hope that you yourself actually second guess and regret some of your decisions, it’s a sign of accountability and growth and regardless of position those are keys to future success.
Funny side note I actually personally know you, we went to the same high school while you played for the Knights at Laurier. I’m quite sure you don’t remember me but we actually went out one night and you saved me from getting my teeth kicked in. We went to GT’s with your girlfriend at the time it was either Ingrid or Monique and I forget which one. You and your girlfriend that night actually said I was the funniest person you had ever met (I was pretty funny especially with a little stink eye sauce in me). The reason why I bring this up is because it lends to the fact of who you are and who you were. You were a solid guy, black and white, great sense of humour but a genuine down to earth solid person. I’m sure as we all do you have holes in your game but my personal small sample size and what I see through the media goggles has us in great hands. You were in a position back then to be cocky and arrogant and you never were. Shayne Stevenson now that was a different story (I’m just kidding I actually liked Shayne but he was cocky).
I did not graduate and have what equates to a grade nine education, don’t know if you ever had Mr. Day but he was brutal and if you ever read this you will quickly realize he didn’t forward my letter writing skills. I was watching the game tonight and wanted to throw my crazy two cents in on the analytics game. Please hear out this crazy idea and throw it around in your melon to see if it makes any sense. Can analytics and personal or even personality traits be used in conjunction with each other in hockey. I’ll try to explain this and give an example. Baseball is all about analytics and metrics and has been for far longer than hockey and we see it play out in every pitch now, infield shifts, pitching inside etc. It plays to the variables, we pitch inside and we move our guy two feet over, the trait of the player is to pull so we load that side of the field etc. Now use Bernier as an example who I think is an amazing goalie but goalies are a rare breed that is so much confidence based. If you look at his statistics and what I am proposing is strictly memory based speculation that he sucks when he does not face as many shots. When he faces a ton of shots his save% again I am speculating skyrockets. Analytics can prove these points but I am somewhat confident that is the case, I think that it can even be extended to early shots. The beginning part of the year when it seemed the first goal was on the first shot that first shot was already well into the game and the leafs carried the play early. Extend analytics to look at stuff like this for trends and see if these trends can be played. If any of these trends are real and can be verified then create the infield shift. Allow the opposition an early shot or shots as long as the analytics back up the facts. I know this is crazy thought but I think it might be something to at least have a discussion about.
If you had time to read this I truly appreciate it and because I am a cheeseball if there is any way that I could get something for my son I would be a hero. My son is a pretty special kid, he actually has spina bifida and he was diagnosed with this while in the womb. He was diagnosed to never walk and have a lifetime of complications. My wife who is a true hero had what is called in utero repair, they actually took Gabe out operated on him and put him back in. He still has complications as he cannot control his bladder and bowel but he runs and and has the heart of a lion. He is 13 and tries out for every sport and track event and never gets deterred that he finishes last. He is a blessing and is truly blessed with where he is in his lot in life. The only Leafs jersey he has is Kessels and so he wasn’t doing back flips with the trade, I think he finally gets it now. If I could get anything signed if possible I would be happy to pay for it or donate some money. I feel like a cheesbucket for asking for anything but then I realize the billion dollar corporation can probably afford it.
If you did I truly appreciate you reading this and if there is never any correspondence it doesn’t change one iota the fact that I am absolutely grateful that you are at the helm to lead the most storied franchise in all of sport to its glorious potential.

- alfsly11


OMFG This is epic.

Someone has to save this.

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 1 @ 10:25 AM ET
Would you trade for #2 pick? What would you want/expect to be able to get?
- Canada Cup



I image it'd cost way too much. I could see them moving up with the pitts pick to maybe mid round. As Burke said last night the reason he was able to make the sedin deals was cause ther werent in love with that draft. There seems to be a lot of fluidity in the middle of this draft. Maybe someone is really in love with a player still available and moves up with a team that still has several guys on their list and are willing to move down.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

May 1 @ 10:26 AM ET
Shots fired by Glucky!!!





- lumlums



Get his man a glass of water on the rocks. My treat, for his winning of the Internet.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 1 @ 10:28 AM ET
I can't believe we won the draft lottery!

Imo the silly-ass trade the pick for half of Arizona's team just because the dude is from AZ talk is noise. Just take the first overall big C and run. It's not complicated.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

May 1 @ 10:28 AM ET
Anybody remember when the Leafs would win a series or 2 during the playoffs? Remember that feeling when lying in bed while trying to sleep knowing you were gonna have a good sleep because the Leafs have moved on? That's what last night was
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 1 @ 10:29 AM ET
Get his man a glass of water on the rocks. My treat, for his winning of the Internet.
- Steven_Seagull

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 1 @ 10:29 AM ET
Shots fired by Glucky!!!





- lumlums


Boom!

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 1 @ 10:30 AM ET
Shots fired by Glucky!!!





- lumlums

Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 1 @ 10:31 AM ET
Anybody remember when the Leafs would win a series or 2 during the playoffs? Remember that feeling when lying in bed while trying to sleep knowing you were gonna have a good sleep because the Leafs have moved on? That's what last night was
- weirdoh


That was the first Leafs satisfaction since...when did they win a playoff round, last time they beat the Sens or some poop? Even making the playoffs last time wasn't it, because you had no hope going into the playoffs. Then we all know what happened. This was the first significant win that can lead to something more since forever.
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