Bill Meltzer: Cleanout Day Musings

Silly Season officially opens.

I expect an extensive injury list. I think I may be disappointed otherwise.

Bill,

What are your opinions on Gudas potential deal? I think they are only going to have to QO him at 1.4 million.

Do you think he gets something like 3 years or does he probably get a 1 year deal with guy like Morin probably getting closer.

That Schenn hit warrants a hearing? None of the capital"s cheap shots deserve one?

Do they have to be asked to review a hit from a team, or does the NHL take the "out of the hat" approach to which hit to review?

They should have had a hearing on his cheap shot to the knee. Maybe the capitals hitching paid off?

I expect an extensive injury list. I think I may be disappointed otherwise.
- MBFlyerfan

If I'm gm in releasing an injury list with all of the top line guys on it. Regardless if they are.

If Giroux is fit enough to attend worlds that's a problem

Once the league announces a hearing, a suspension almost always follows (I can only think of a couple times when it did not).

I think one of those times was when they bent over backwards to let Wilson getting away with skating the entire width of the ice to smash Schenn into the boards. A play that was 10 times more dangerous than this nothing hit on Oshie.

I don't know why Gudas wouldn't be in their longer range plan being he is only 25.

I don't know why Gudas wouldn't be in their longer range plan being he is only 25.
- nastyflyergirl

I agree. I feel like they need him. Especially after what I witnessed in this playoff series.

Some say Morin can be that guy, but he isn't yet.

I think one of those times was when they bent over backwards to let Wilson getting away with skating the entire width of the ice to smash Schenn into the boards. A play that was 10 times more dangerous than this nothing hit on Oshie.
- Feanor

Have to protect our Commander in Danglechief

I don't know why Gudas wouldn't be in their longer range plan being he is only 25.
- nastyflyergirl

Not everyone can be in your longterm plans.

They have guys like Provorov, Gostisbehere, Morin, Sanheim, Myers, Hagg.

Gudas is nice but at some point maybe the Flyers want a defenseman with a different skill set the Gudas. Especially if Morin can provide the physical play that Gudas does with maybe a little more offense.

The injury list will be lengthy.

- -davies-

"This is what he does! When he's not scoring goals, this is how he gets himself into the game. This is what he needs to do to be involved. When he's playing like this, he can change the game!"

~Every announcer.

I agree. I feel like they need him. Especially after what I witnessed in this playoff series.

Some say Morin can be that guy, but he isn't yet.
- MBFlyerfan

What I witnessed was a team that had trouble moving puck out of there zone.

Lack of scoring from the defense.

Top line struggled.

Nothing that Gudas was really going to fix.

"This is what he does! When he's not scoring goals, this is how he gets himself into the game. This is what he needs to do to be involved. When he's playing like this, he can change the game!"

~Every announcer.
- Giroux_Is_God

Not sure what is soo bad. Ovechkin never changes his path.

Gostisbehere falls because he tries to jump out of the hit.

its kind of in the process of the hit but his leg comes out and is the only thing that hits Ghost

What I witnessed was a team that had trouble moving puck out of there zone.

Lack of scoring from the defense.

Top line struggled.

Nothing that Gudas was really going to fix.
- J35Bacher

What I witnessed was a team defense getting pounded by a bigger stronger group of forwards who had no fear of getting pounded back. And what I witnessed was that Gudas was probably our best defenseman in the series because of it.

Not sure what is soo bad. Ovechkin never changes his path.

Gostisbehere falls because he tries to jump out of the hit.
- J35Bacher

Yeah, this was more Ghost falling to avoid being crushed than OV going after his knee. He doesn't stick out his leg because he has about 1/4 second between going for the hit and Ghost changing his path.

What I witnessed was a team defense getting pounded by a bigger stronger group of forwards who had no fear of getting pounded back. And what I witnessed was that Gudas was probably our best defenseman in the series because of it.
- MBFlyerfan

So if we had more Hatchers, Grossmanns, Hall gills we would have been fine?

So if we had more Hatchers, Grossmanns, Hall gills we would have been fine?
- J35Bacher

Oh no, don't do that. Listing bigger player who aren't mobile, even though the complaint was about needing bigger bodies, makes you a troll...or something.

Yeah, this was more Ghost falling to avoid being crushed than OV going after his knee. He doesn't stick out his leg because he has about 1/4 second between going for the hit and Ghost changing his path.
- jmatchett383

Not sure if your agreeing or not.

I just don't think his leg moves. I have even tried to slow it down but he doesn't seem to move from his path at all.

Not everyone can be in your longterm plans.

They have guys like Provorov, Gostisbehere, Morin, Sanheim, Myers, Hagg.

Gudas is nice but at some point maybe the Flyers want a defenseman with a different skill set the Gudas. Especially if Morin can provide the physical play that Gudas does with maybe a little more offense.
- J35Bacher

but also you can't expect them to hit on every prospect. having MDZ, Gudas, and Ghost up now, can alleviate the time you have with some of the prospects in order not to rush them. from what i see and read i feel like sanheim may need another year, same with morin, and hagg just hasnt taken his game to that next level yet. provorov i believe is ready to make the jump and ive heard that myers' game has taken incredible leaps. he may need a year or two but ive heard his progression is almost sanheim-esque. its an exciting time, but gudas should definitely be in their plans, at least for the next 2-3 years.

Not sure what is soo bad. Ovechkin never changes his path.

Gostisbehere falls because he tries to jump out of the hit.
- J35Bacher

Ovechkin charges from multiple counties over to deliver 80% of his hits. But he gets a pass, because hypocrisy rules over the stars of the league. That's the point.

Also, this is a knee on knee.