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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Sep 13 @ 11:50 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: NHL Rule Will Slow Down Daniel Sprong's Development NHL Rule Will Slow Down Daniel Sprong's Development
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 13 @ 12:16 PM ET
fist
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 13 @ 12:25 PM ET
That rule will never change..It's there to protect the CHL teams who invest in developing the players..It protects teams from having talent poached way too early..Everyone plays with the same rules..Dont like it, dont draft players from that league...



Players from European leagues can play in the AHL without restriction.



Draft them.. fixed...
dps0610
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 03.04.2014

Sep 13 @ 12:39 PM ET
It's a business. All it would take is for the NHL to sponsor the CHl, and make it a youth development league. Bottom line, If enough clubs female dog, it will change.
gdsmack267
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.02.2009

Sep 13 @ 12:43 PM ET
Toronto media is literally the worst in sports. Why any player would want to play there is beyond me
Bradlee3
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tanev hit was clean.
Joined: 06.30.2012

Sep 13 @ 12:56 PM ET
All I can say to Kap is , welcome to the Toronto Media frenzy.
GOODPLAYA20
New York Rangers
Location: "Are you gonna bark all day, l
Joined: 01.30.2012

Sep 13 @ 1:01 PM ET
Toronto media is literally the worst in sports. Why any player would want to play there is beyond me
- gdsmack267


Something something Original Six. Something something history.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Sep 13 @ 1:03 PM ET
That rule will never change..It's there to protect the CHL teams who invest in developing the players..It protects teams from having talent poached way too early..Everyone plays with the same rules..Dont like it, dont draft players from that league...



Players from European leagues can play in the AHL without restriction.



Draft them.. fixed...

- Fruitcakenipple


Agreed. The rule is also in place to protect young kids from being used as hitting dummes/punching bags in the rougher AHL.

That and it's not like Sprong totally dominated the league. 88 points in the QMJHL isn't that impressive. In fact, he was 14th in the league in points, 30+ points behind the league leader. He's got room to improve there.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Sep 13 @ 1:51 PM ET
For once Ryan we are in agreement.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Sep 13 @ 1:56 PM ET
Agreed. The rule is also in place to protect young kids from being used as hitting dummes/punching bags in the rougher AHL.

That and it's not like Sprong totally dominated the league. 88 points in the QMJHL isn't that impressive. In fact, he was 14th in the league in points, 30+ points behind the league leader. He's got room to improve there.

- hardnosed


I'd understand the argument in some cases, but for Sprong, like you said it's isn't as if he is destroying the league. He clearly can improve while staying in the Q.
Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Sep 13 @ 1:57 PM ET
Not saying this is going to happen, but the Pens could keep him up for 9 games to start the season and then return him to juniors... Maatta and Pouliot both came very close to making the team year one.... If Sprong is a "top 15 pick" that fell because of attitude issues then that places him in the middle of where Pouliot and Maatta were drafted..... Might be good for the kid to be up even if he does not play

They just can't pull a "Grigerenko" like Buffalo and play him 8 minutes on the 4th line.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Sep 13 @ 2:04 PM ET
Not saying this is going to happen, but the Pens could keep him up for 9 games to start the season and then return him to juniors... Maatta and Pouliot both came very close to making the team year one.... If Sprong is a "top 15 pick" that fell because of attitude issues then that places him in the middle of where Pouliot and Maatta were drafted..... Might be good for the kid to be up even if he does not play
- Brianandr1


At least he'll be playing big minutes in juniors. Sitting and watching is of less benefit than playing regardless of the competition level.
Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Sep 13 @ 2:10 PM ET
At least he'll be playing big minutes in juniors. Sitting and watching is of less benefit than playing regardless of the competition level.
- madmike71

This is 100 percent correct.. but if the kid has "attitude" or "maturity" issues then practicing/ possibly playing a few games with Crosby, Malkin, Letang et... could be beneficial to his development...
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Sep 13 @ 2:19 PM ET
This is 100 percent correct.. but if the kid has "attitude" or "maturity" issues then practicing/ possibly playing a few games with Crosby, Malkin, Letang et... could be beneficial to his development...
- Brianandr1


From what I've read, he's not ready for the NHL. Judging by Ruth's assessment of Brittle Beau's handling, I'm sure they'll be patient.....which they should be. There's no room for him on the big club. It feels strange to say that.
Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Sep 13 @ 2:24 PM ET
From what I've read, he's not ready for the NHL. Judging by Ruth's assessment of Brittle Beau's handling, I'm sure they'll be patient.....which they should be. There's no room for him on the big club. It feels strange to say that.
- madmike71

I tend to agree, lets see what the kid shows in training camp
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Sep 13 @ 2:25 PM ET
As more and more AHL teams are being owned by their parent NHL franchises, it will be interesting if that affects the CHL agreement.

AHL hockey is bad hockey to watch, period. And as a result of that, there aren't a lot of AHL teams who have very good attendance. It would be in an NHL team's best interest for the AHL to be more entertaining. And a lot of that goes with young, high draft picks playing instead of 30 year old fringe NHL grinders.

If you can make a few bucks on your AHL team being successful, and get to develop and assess your prospects in your controlled team, that's a win/win.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Sep 13 @ 2:40 PM ET

Can't they compromise at 19? AHL hockey could use an infusion of talent. Boring, beat em' up hockey.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 13 @ 2:43 PM ET
While itd be nice for him to play in the AHL I don't think this is the biggest deal in the world.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Sep 13 @ 2:50 PM ET
Toronto media is literally the worst in sports. Why any player would want to play there is beyond me.


It's the centre of the hockey universe, so it all depends on the personality of the player. If they're an extrovert, it can be absolute heaven. If they're an introvert, it can be the seventh circle of hell.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Sep 13 @ 2:57 PM ET
It's the centre of the hockey universe, so it all depends on the personality of the player. If they're an extrovert, it can be absolute heaven. If they're an introvert, it can be the seventh circle of hell.
- The Shrike


It's the greatest media and fan scrutiny in the world for their professional hockey team too. Obviously it should get better overall once the team is competitive again in a few years, but to outsiders a lot of the Toronto fans and media appear incredibly irrational.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Sep 13 @ 3:43 PM ET
Sprong was a great pick for you guys, especially where you got him. Excellent value. I was really surprised the Leafs picked Dermott over him, but we'll see what the future holds.

I love that quote from Kapanen, too.
Willaged
Joined: 05.14.2014

Sep 13 @ 3:49 PM ET
As stated by a few guys earlier, the transfer agreement is there to protect the CHL and their product. Owners have a lot of money invested and play a crucial role in developing young players, if a kid gets drafted and makes the Nhl at 18-19, GREAT! But if a kid isn't good enough for the NHL, he's still got room to grow and improvements to be made that can be done in the CHL.
To say It is a disservice to Sprong to spend another year in the Q is a joke. The kid is not Connor McDavid. Sprong was a second round pick, is only 18 years old, and from all reports I've read he very much needs to build on his defensive side of the game and back checking. Where better than the CHL where he is playing top minutes against other kids his age, size and strength.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Sep 13 @ 4:49 PM ET
As more and more AHL teams are being owned by their parent NHL franchises, it will be interesting if that affects the CHL agreement.

AHL hockey is bad hockey to watch, period. And as a result of that, there aren't a lot of AHL teams who have very good attendance. It would be in an NHL team's best interest for the AHL to be more entertaining. And a lot of that goes with young, high draft picks playing instead of 30 year old fringe NHL grinders.

If you can make a few bucks on your AHL team being successful, and get to develop and assess your prospects in your controlled team, that's a win/win.

- rival22


I don't think the AHL attendance numbers are that bad. They're about on par with the CHL's numbers, but with smaller, far less hockey crazed markets.

I've been to Utica. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Utica's attendance figures would have a better chance of increasing if they signed Steve MacIntyre and Georges Laraque than they would if they had instant access to CHL guys.

The last part of this is that how do we know that players would want to toil away in Adirondack instead of being demi-gods for the London Knights or Quebec Ramparts?
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Planet of the Leafs, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 13 @ 4:59 PM ET
Toronto media is literally the worst in sports. Why any player would want to play there is beyond me
- gdsmack267


No arguing about the Toronto media, although in particular the hockey media. It's all-or-nothing for players with the Leafs though. The bad side is really bad, but if it ever gets good again, the players will own the city.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 13 @ 5:00 PM ET
I don't think the AHL attendance numbers are that bad. They're about on par with the CHL's numbers, but with smaller, far less hockey crazed markets.

I've been to Utica. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Utica's attendance figures would have a better chance of increasing if they signed Steve MacIntyre and Georges Laraque than they would if they had instant access to CHL guys.

The last part of this is that how do we know that players would want to toil away in Adirondack instead of being demi-gods for the London Knights or Quebec Ramparts?

- hardnosed


That last part I don't agree with. A competitive sportsman's dream is to play at the highest possible level. They'll go to whatever league has the highest competition in order to prepare for the ultimate goal of reaching the NHL. If a player would rather put up 100 points in the CHL than test his metal against a higher level of competition in the AHL, then he probably doesn't have the right attitude to succeed at the NHL level.
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