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GARTH'S CORNER
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @SabresBuzz
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 30 @ 5:47 PM ET
GARTH'S CORNER: Saad But True
Old Pappy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.06.2006

Jun 30 @ 5:55 PM ET
Yes, he was scared of Tim Murray.....
Code67
Ottawa Senators
Location: Grande Prairie, AB
Joined: 01.23.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:57 PM ET
Yeah Murray is pretty intimidating.....sad no one ever
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 30 @ 6:31 PM ET
Buffalo was offer sheeting Boston and Chicago? Interesting, albeeit just a guess and 90% false. And gmtm will not be offer sheeting stl either as he avoids Russians. In case you didn't notice, he never drafts them and traded away his two.
druryisclutch
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 09.21.2006

Jun 30 @ 7:02 PM ET
Columbus is the second Buffalo Eastern Conference rival to traded away a franchise player restricted free agent in the past three days
- garth


Hold on Skippy!! Isn't Saad the franchise player RFA? And wasn't he dealt FROM Chicago? And isn't Chicago in the Western Conference?

Brilliant Garth, just brilliant!!
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Jun 30 @ 7:21 PM ET
Yes, he was scared of Tim Murray.....
- Old Pappy

Tim Murray looks like a toad
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 30 @ 7:54 PM ET
Tim Murray looks like a toad
- Alexzanki

He has a very punchable face.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 30 @ 8:03 PM ET
The more I study it the more I think Beauchemin my be the best fit/target for the sabres. He'll be cheaper and comparable (maybe better slightly) than Martin and odulya plus just can't see Sekera wanting to come back to Buffalo.
lomez
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.20.2005

Jun 30 @ 8:08 PM ET
OK Garth, let's assume your myopic Sabres-centric theory is correct and these RFAs were dealt due to the intimidation of Tim Murray's impending offers. How has that helped Buffalo in any way? If anything the Blue Jackets and Flames should be sending him a fruit basket right about now. Maybe GMTM should play his cards a little closer to his chest? (apologies for having the gall to question the great and powerful...)
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:10 PM ET
He has a very punchable face.
- Cptmjl



djc1877
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Melbourne, FL
Joined: 02.13.2010

Jun 30 @ 8:14 PM ET
Moulson-O'Reilly-Ennis
Kane-Eichel-Girgensons
McGinn-Larsson-Gionta
Foligno-Legwand-Deslauriers
McCormick
Reinhart plays Center in Rochester
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:17 PM ET
The more I study it the more I think Beauchemin my be the best fit/target for the sabres. He'll be cheaper and comparable (maybe better slightly) than Martin and odulya plus just can't see Sekera wanting to come back to Buffalo.
- turbo044

How hard have you been studying this?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:17 PM ET

- smellmyfinger

Wham
druryisclutch
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 09.21.2006

Jun 30 @ 9:08 PM ET
The more I study it the more I think Beauchemin my be the best fit/target for the sabres. He'll be cheaper and comparable (maybe better slightly) than Martin and odulya plus just can't see Sekera wanting to come back to Buffalo.
- turbo044


Why do people keep saying this? If the money is right he will go anywhere. The coaches/GM from his time here are all gone, so I'm sure that has nothing to do with his decision.
RicoMartin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: whitby, ON
Joined: 01.28.2007

Jun 30 @ 10:18 PM ET
The sabres have some options to consider over the next few days....they can really improve this team by making a few more bold moves and tmgm is the guy to get it done:

Trades:
Option1
St Louis has not done anything and they need to make some changes;
Weber, McCabe and Cantenacci for Bouwmeister and a pick or
Weber, Mcginn and Cantenacci for Oshie
or Weber, McCabe, McGinn and Foligno or Larson for Oshie and Bouwmeister

Option 2
Weber, McGinn and 2nd pick for Marleau and 3rd pick

Option 3
weber and Legwand for Schenn and lecavalier plus Philly holds half of Vinny's salary; Vnny would get 4th line minutes and PP time and an occasional step set of shifts when one of the top six guys goes down.

Free Agent signings if no trades can occur
#1: Shawn Matthias...this is a good big center that plays well at equal strength and kills penalties.....he would be excellent on the 3rd line at center with Foligno and Girgenson...big strong scrappy line that would go through the wall for you;

#2: Beachemin ....this is a good stay at home defenseman that gives you hopefully 3 years of service...wont come cheap, but will be a good 5th defenseman by year 3 and will not hurt you....like Jim Patrick years ago;

#3:Bartkowski over Irwin.....just look at the profiles on line.....one reminds of Phil Kessel and the other reminds me of Toews or Gilmour....sometimes you don't need to be tough...just look the part......This would be a very nice 7th defenseman

#4: If McCormick is done, bring in Winnick to play with McGinn and gionta on the 4th line.

#5: Chris Stewart....Murray likes him because he traded for him....and him playing the right side with O'reilly and Kane could be inclredible......

#6: sign another goalie....in order of preference: Neuwirth, Lindmark, Enroth, but no more than 3 years and $8 million for any of them.

What these moves do is making the sabres bigger stronger and tougher than they would have ever been......Imagine the lines:

kane, Oreilly stewart/Oshie
moulson Eichel Ennis
Foligno Matthias Girgensons
Mcginn Winnick/legwand Gionta
Larson and Deslauriers are the spares...ith Reinhart in the minors to start

Beachemin/Bouwmeister Risto
jorges Pysyk
Begosian Brtkowski
Ruhwhedl is the spare or sign Irwin and make him your spare
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 30 @ 11:07 PM ET
The sabres have some options to consider over the next few days....they can really improve this team by making a few more bold moves and tmgm is the guy to get it done:

Trades:
Option1
St Louis has not done anything and they need to make some changes;
Weber, McCabe and Cantenacci for Bouwmeister and a pick or
Weber, Mcginn and Cantenacci for Oshie
or Weber, McCabe, McGinn and Foligno or Larson for Oshie and Bouwmeister

Option 2
Weber, McGinn and 2nd pick for Marleau and 3rd pick

Option 3
weber and Legwand for Schenn and lecavalier plus Philly holds half of Vinny's salary; Vnny would get 4th line minutes and PP time and an occasional step set of shifts when one of the top six guys goes down.

Free Agent signings if no trades can occur
#1: Shawn Matthias...this is a good big center that plays well at equal strength and kills penalties.....he would be excellent on the 3rd line at center with Foligno and Girgenson...big strong scrappy line that would go through the wall for you;

#2: Beachemin ....this is a good stay at home defenseman that gives you hopefully 3 years of service...wont come cheap, but will be a good 5th defenseman by year 3 and will not hurt you....like Jim Patrick years ago;

#3:Bartkowski over Irwin.....just look at the profiles on line.....one reminds of Phil Kessel and the other reminds me of Toews or Gilmour....sometimes you don't need to be tough...just look the part......This would be a very nice 7th defenseman

#4: If McCormick is done, bring in Winnick to play with McGinn and gionta on the 4th line.

#5: Chris Stewart....Murray likes him because he traded for him....and him playing the right side with O'reilly and Kane could be inclredible......

#6: sign another goalie....in order of preference: Neuwirth, Lindmark, Enroth, but no more than 3 years and $8 million for any of them.

What these moves do is making the sabres bigger stronger and tougher than they would have ever been......Imagine the lines:

kane, Oreilly stewart/Oshie
moulson Eichel Ennis
Foligno Matthias Girgensons
Mcginn Winnick/legwand Gionta
Larson and Deslauriers are the spares...ith Reinhart in the minors to start

Beachemin/Bouwmeister Risto
jorges Pysyk
Begosian Brtkowski
Ruhwhedl is the spare or sign Irwin and make him your spare

- RicoMartin

Christ, not again. You haven't been right yet.
Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: New Haven, CT
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:34 AM ET
I'd actually be open to moving Reinhart or Girgensons. IF it brought back a young (24 or younger) left handed future or current top pairing defenseman. The way I look at it, Eichel, oreilly, Kane, Ennis, moulson aren't going anywhere. I love 28 and 23 but there's only one top pairing guy on this team (55) and there's no prospects coming to take that spot. Am I crazy to be open to trading 28 or 23? Would have to be a star or star in the making.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:11 AM ET
The sabres have some options to consider over the next few days....they can really improve this team by making a few more bold moves and tmgm is the guy to get it done:

Trades:
Option1
St Louis has not done anything and they need to make some changes;
Weber, McCabe and Cantenacci for Bouwmeister and a pick or
Weber, Mcginn and Cantenacci for Oshie
or Weber, McCabe, McGinn and Foligno or Larson for Oshie and Bouwmeister

Option 2
Weber, McGinn and 2nd pick for Marleau and 3rd pick

Option 3
weber and Legwand for Schenn and lecavalier plus Philly holds half of Vinny's salary; Vnny would get 4th line minutes and PP time and an occasional step set of shifts when one of the top six guys goes down.

Free Agent signings if no trades can occur
#1: Shawn Matthias...this is a good big center that plays well at equal strength and kills penalties.....he would be excellent on the 3rd line at center with Foligno and Girgenson...big strong scrappy line that would go through the wall for you;

#2: Beachemin ....this is a good stay at home defenseman that gives you hopefully 3 years of service...wont come cheap, but will be a good 5th defenseman by year 3 and will not hurt you....like Jim Patrick years ago;

#3:Bartkowski over Irwin.....just look at the profiles on line.....one reminds of Phil Kessel and the other reminds me of Toews or Gilmour....sometimes you don't need to be tough...just look the part......This would be a very nice 7th defenseman

#4: If McCormick is done, bring in Winnick to play with McGinn and gionta on the 4th line.

#5: Chris Stewart....Murray likes him because he traded for him....and him playing the right side with O'reilly and Kane could be inclredible......

#6: sign another goalie....in order of preference: Neuwirth, Lindmark, Enroth, but no more than 3 years and $8 million for any of them.

What these moves do is making the sabres bigger stronger and tougher than they would have ever been......Imagine the lines:

kane, Oreilly stewart/Oshie
moulson Eichel Ennis
Foligno Matthias Girgensons
Mcginn Winnick/legwand Gionta
Larson and Deslauriers are the spares...ith Reinhart in the minors to start

Beachemin/Bouwmeister Risto
jorges Pysyk
Begosian Brtkowski
Ruhwhedl is the spare or sign Irwin and make him your spare

- RicoMartin

turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 1 @ 6:41 AM ET
The sabres have some options to consider over the next few days....they can really improve this team by making a few more bold moves and tmgm is the guy to get it done:

Trades:
Option1
St Louis has not done anything and they need to make some changes;
Weber, McCabe and Cantenacci for Bouwmeister and a pick or
Weber, Mcginn and Cantenacci for Oshie
or Weber, McCabe, McGinn and Foligno or Larson for Oshie and Bouwmeister

Option 2
Weber, McGinn and 2nd pick for Marleau and 3rd pick

Option 3
weber and Legwand for Schenn and lecavalier plus Philly holds half of Vinny's salary; Vnny would get 4th line minutes and PP time and an occasional step set of shifts when one of the top six guys goes down.

Free Agent signings if no trades can occur
#1: Shawn Matthias...this is a good big center that plays well at equal strength and kills penalties.....he would be excellent on the 3rd line at center with Foligno and Girgenson...big strong scrappy line that would go through the wall for you;

#2: Beachemin ....this is a good stay at home defenseman that gives you hopefully 3 years of service...wont come cheap, but will be a good 5th defenseman by year 3 and will not hurt you....like Jim Patrick years ago;

#3:Bartkowski over Irwin.....just look at the profiles on line.....one reminds of Phil Kessel and the other reminds me of Toews or Gilmour....sometimes you don't need to be tough...just look the part......This would be a very nice 7th defenseman

#4: If McCormick is done, bring in Winnick to play with McGinn and gionta on the 4th line.

#5: Chris Stewart....Murray likes him because he traded for him....and him playing the right side with O'reilly and Kane could be inclredible......

#6: sign another goalie....in order of preference: Neuwirth, Lindmark, Enroth, but no more than 3 years and $8 million for any of them.

What these moves do is making the sabres bigger stronger and tougher than they would have ever been......Imagine the lines:

kane, Oreilly stewart/Oshie
moulson Eichel Ennis
Foligno Matthias Girgensons
Mcginn Winnick/legwand Gionta
Larson and Deslauriers are the spares...ith Reinhart in the minors to start

Beachemin/Bouwmeister Risto
jorges Pysyk
Begosian Brtkowski,
Ruhwhedl is the spare or sign Irwin and make him your spare

- RicoMartin


Good thought process but who in the world would want Weber (I don't) and the sabres #1 UFA priority isn't Mathias - the last thing we need is another center - we have around 6 already
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jul 1 @ 9:00 AM ET
The sabres have some options to consider over the next few days....they can really improve this team by making a few more bold moves and tmgm is the guy to get it done:

Trades:
Option1
St Louis has not done anything and they need to make some changes;
Weber, McCabe and Cantenacci for Bouwmeister and a pick or
Weber, Mcginn and Cantenacci for Oshie
or Weber, McCabe, McGinn and Foligno or Larson for Oshie and Bouwmeister

Option 2
Weber, McGinn and 2nd pick for Marleau and 3rd pick

Option 3
weber and Legwand for Schenn and lecavalier plus Philly holds half of Vinny's salary; Vnny would get 4th line minutes and PP time and an occasional step set of shifts when one of the top six guys goes down.

Free Agent signings if no trades can occur
#1: Shawn Matthias...this is a good big center that plays well at equal strength and kills penalties.....he would be excellent on the 3rd line at center with Foligno and Girgenson...big strong scrappy line that would go through the wall for you;

#2: Beachemin ....this is a good stay at home defenseman that gives you hopefully 3 years of service...wont come cheap, but will be a good 5th defenseman by year 3 and will not hurt you....like Jim Patrick years ago;

#3:Bartkowski over Irwin.....just look at the profiles on line.....one reminds of Phil Kessel and the other reminds me of Toews or Gilmour....sometimes you don't need to be tough...just look the part......This would be a very nice 7th defenseman

#4: If McCormick is done, bring in Winnick to play with McGinn and gionta on the 4th line.

#5: Chris Stewart....Murray likes him because he traded for him....and him playing the right side with O'reilly and Kane could be inclredible......

#6: sign another goalie....in order of preference: Neuwirth, Lindmark, Enroth, but no more than 3 years and $8 million for any of them.

What these moves do is making the sabres bigger stronger and tougher than they would have ever been......Imagine the lines:

kane, Oreilly stewart/Oshie
moulson Eichel Ennis
Foligno Matthias Girgensons
Mcginn Winnick/legwand Gionta
Larson and Deslauriers are the spares...ith Reinhart in the minors to start

Beachemin/Bouwmeister Risto
jorges Pysyk
Begosian Brtkowski
Ruhwhedl is the spare or sign Irwin and make him your spare

- RicoMartin

what has given you the impression that anyone would pay significant value for mike effin weber?
dark17
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.23.2011

Jul 1 @ 9:15 AM ET
We need another goalie!
leonwaldo420
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Never In Canada
Joined: 06.30.2008

Jul 1 @ 9:47 AM ET
He has a very punchable face.
- Cptmjl

I'm guessing you do to.