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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Oct 30 @ 10:01 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Know Thy Enemy: Los Angeles Kings Know Thy Enemy: Los Angeles Kings
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Oct 30 @ 10:04 AM ET
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Oct 30 @ 10:06 AM ET
Toffoli is ON FIRE!

Won't be able to watch the game tonight but LETS GO PENS!

4-2 Penguins!
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Oct 30 @ 10:23 AM ET
Should be a fun game also a good test for our team. I'll miss most of it.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Oct 30 @ 10:25 AM ET
So far in the Capitals...

44 D BROOKS ORPIK 9GP 0G 3A 3P -2 14PM

2 D MATT NISKANEN 9GP 0G 3A 3P 1 2PM

Flames...

29 D DERYK ENGELLAND 8GP 0G 0A 0P -1 13PM

Panthers...

36 L JUSSI JOKINEN 7GP 0G 3A 3P 2 6PM

Predators...

18 L JAMES NEAL 9GP 5G 0A 5P 0 6PM

Coyotes...

14 C JOE VITALE 8GP 0G 2A 2P -4 7PM

Rangers...

15 L TANNER GLASS 9GP 0G 0A 0P -5 9PM
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Oct 30 @ 10:33 AM ET
So far in the Capitals...

44 D BROOKS ORPIK 9GP 0G 3A 3P -2 14PM

2 D MATT NISKANEN 9GP 0G 3A 3P 1 2PM

Flames...

29 D DERYK ENGELLAND 8GP 0G 0A 0P -1 13PM

Panthers...

36 L JUSSI JOKINEN 7GP 0G 3A 3P 2 6PM

Predators...

18 L JAMES NEAL 9GP 5G 0A 5P 0 6PM

Coyotes...

14 C JOE VITALE 8GP 0G 2A 2P -4 7PM

Rangers...

15 L TANNER GLASS 9GP 0G 0A 0P -5 9PM

- Barnaby36



Vitale has 2 assists!
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Oct 30 @ 10:36 AM ET
Vitale has 2 assists!
- usethe1-2-2

True. I like how Engelland is holding the fort. He's pretty good so far considering he's a D playing in Calgary.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Oct 30 @ 10:39 AM ET
Would you trade Martin (if he wanted to spend a few days in the sun) to Florida for a signed Jokinen for the next 4 years @ $4M?

Fleischmann, T. » $4,500,000 UFA
Jokinen, Jussi » $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000
Kopecky, Tomas » $3,000,000 UFA
Bergenheim, Sean » $2,750,000 UFA
Boyes, Brad » $2,625,000 $2,625,000

I like Fleischmann, Bergenheim and Kopecky too...
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Oct 30 @ 10:40 AM ET
Comeau has really impressed this year but should he really be in the top 6? Is the plan to keep him there when Bennett gets back since Johnston wants him with Sutter?

YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Oct 30 @ 10:42 AM ET
Saw an article about Jimmy Deals and when he makes his moves. Historically, GMJR made a lot of trades around November - January time period. As a financial investment representative, I know past results do not indicate the future ....but food for thought.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Oct 30 @ 10:42 AM ET
Comeau has really impressed this year but should he really be in the top 6? Is the plan to keep him there when Bennett gets back since Johnston wants him with Sutter?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

He's showing nothing but good/physical play so far. He's got some talent and is not a liability on the ice. No reason we can't keep him there...of course we'd like to see more of Bennett as a top 6.

Remember Dupuis was nothing more than a 3rd liner......can't see why Comeau can't elevate his game, as he already has done so far.
QuicksEnnormous
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Villa Park, CA
Joined: 02.14.2014

Oct 30 @ 10:44 AM ET
Good read. You are way off base on Quick though. As a Kings fan I have seen a lot of mediocre to terrible goaltending. I know you can make a case with stats to make a point that Quick is a beneficiary of the teams defense and style of play. Ask any reporter who covers this team for a full season. Ask any die hard fan. No one will agree with your assertion that Quick is not elite. Team USA management will not agree with your assertion that Quick is not elite. He should have won the Vezina in 2012 and is having a terrific start to this season with 2 shutouts both of the 40 save variety.

He recently became the franchise leader in shutouts with 33 career. He is also the Franchise leader in wins.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Oct 30 @ 10:45 AM ET
Would you trade Martin (if he wanted to spend a few days in the sun) to Florida for a signed Jokinen for the next 4 years @ $4M?

Fleischmann, T. » $4,500,000 UFA
Jokinen, Jussi » $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000
Kopecky, Tomas » $3,000,000 UFA
Bergenheim, Sean » $2,750,000 UFA
Boyes, Brad » $2,625,000 $2,625,000

I like Fleischmann, Bergenheim and Kopecky too...

- Barnaby36


Really don't think Martin will go to FLA....but even so, I wouldnt trade him for Jokinen. I think nostalgia can be your worst enemy and I think its too long of term and too much money (will be 35 at the end of contract). He was very serviceable in his time here....but he is streaky and we should look for better options, imo.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Oct 30 @ 10:47 AM ET
He's showing nothing but good/physical play so far. He's got some talent and is not a liability on the ice. No reason we can't keep him there...of course we'd like to see more of Bennett as a top 6.

Remember Dupuis was nothing more than a 3rd liner......can't see why Comeau can't elevate his game, as he already has done so far.

- Barnaby36


I see your point and I agree about his play so far. But "not a liability" is a poor way to evaluate linemates for one of the best players in the world, imo.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Oct 30 @ 10:49 AM ET
Megnatron has been recalled.

edit -- hopefully takes Sill's place.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Oct 30 @ 10:55 AM ET
Comeau has really impressed this year but should he really be in the top 6? Is the plan to keep him there when Bennett gets back since Johnston wants him with Sutter?
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Bennett should be there IMO. You should put your best combo's together and a Dupuis/Geno/Beau line is just better.

Comeau though, has been very good for his salary. He should be the third line right wing and push Downie down to the 4th, unless he can play left wing as well then Spaling goes down with Goc.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Oct 30 @ 10:56 AM ET
Megnatron has been recalled.

edit -- hopefully takes Sill's place.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Just saw that. Those WBS guys with speed typically do well for a few games on recall, then fall back to earth.
87_71_11_29
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: In a van down by the river, PA
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 30 @ 11:01 AM ET
Would you trade Martin (if he wanted to spend a few days in the sun) to Florida for a signed Jokinen for the next 4 years @ $4M?

Fleischmann, T. » $4,500,000 UFA
Jokinen, Jussi » $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000
Kopecky, Tomas » $3,000,000 UFA
Bergenheim, Sean » $2,750,000 UFA
Boyes, Brad » $2,625,000 $2,625,000

I like Fleischmann, Bergenheim and Kopecky too...

- Barnaby36

No to all of them
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Oct 30 @ 11:03 AM ET
Would you trade Martin (if he wanted to spend a few days in the sun) to Florida for a signed Jokinen for the next 4 years @ $4M?

Fleischmann, T. » $4,500,000 UFA
Jokinen, Jussi » $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000
Kopecky, Tomas » $3,000,000 UFA
Bergenheim, Sean » $2,750,000 UFA
Boyes, Brad » $2,625,000 $2,625,000

I like Fleischmann, Bergenheim and Kopecky too...

- Barnaby36


I'd take Jussi if he was at 3 mil a year, or consider it at 3 to 2.5 mil on the last 2 years with 4 on the front two.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Oct 30 @ 11:12 AM ET
I'd take Jussi if he was at 3 mil a year, or consider it at 3 to 2.5 mil on the last 2 years with 4 on the front two.
- Guile


Yeah, 4 x $4 mil is too much for Jussi. Surprised that he hasn't scored, but as streaky as he is, he could get 5 in a week.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

Oct 30 @ 11:12 AM ET
Good read. You are way off base on Quick though. As a Kings fan I have seen a lot of mediocre to terrible goaltending. I know you can make a case with stats to make a point that Quick is a beneficiary of the teams defense and style of play. Ask any reporter who covers this team for a full season. Ask any die hard fan. No one will agree with your assertion that Quick is not elite. Team USA management will not agree with your assertion that Quick is not elite. He should have won the Vezina in 2012 and is having a terrific start to this season with 2 shutouts both of the 40 save variety.

He recently became the franchise leader in shutouts with 33 career. He is also the Franchise leader in wins.

- QuicksEnnormous


Yeah, I would have to agree with you here. Also, Quick makes the simple save and makes saves on a nightly basis that turns momentum in the Kings favor. Reach a bit for this comparison.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Oct 30 @ 11:14 AM ET
Yeah, 4 x $4 mil is too much for Jussi. Surprised that he hasn't scored, but as streaky as he is, he could get 5 in a week.
- rival22


Synergy isn't instant on teams, and, he might be in a bit of a slight off playing due to having been with Malkin. Not too many who can set up like he does
s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.03.2008

Oct 30 @ 11:15 AM ET
Megnatron has been recalled.

edit -- hopefully takes Sill's place.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Hmmm. I believe the Pens will have to make a corresponding Cap move to fit him into the roster. Anyone see anything about a player being sent down?

Are Harrington & Ebbett still at the NHL level?

EDIT: W/ out Ebbett and Harrington & Bennet on IR. Is this correct?

CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Chris Kunitz ($3.850m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Patric Hornqvist ($4.250m)
Blake Comeau ($0.700m) / Evgeni Malkin ($9.500m) / Pascal Dupuis ($3.750m)
Nick Spaling ($2.200m) / Brandon Sutter ($3.300m) / Steve Downie ($1.000m)
Jayson Megna ($0.874m) / Marcel Goc ($1.200m) / Craig Adams ($0.700m)
Zach Sill ($0.550m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kris Letang ($7.250m) / Olli Maatta ($0.894m)
Christian Ehrhoff ($4.000m) / Paul Martin ($5.000m)
Simon Despres ($0.900m) / Rob Scuderi ($3.375m)
Robert Bortuzzo ($0.600m) /
GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m)
Thomas Greiss ($1.000m)
LTIR
Beau Bennett ($0.900m)
BONUS OVERAGE
NaN
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15 crunched using simulation date of 2014-10-30)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $427,699
rkrichter2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 30 @ 11:17 AM ET
Would you trade Martin (if he wanted to spend a few days in the sun) to Florida for a signed Jokinen for the next 4 years @ $4M?

Fleischmann, T. » $4,500,000 UFA
Jokinen, Jussi » $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000
Kopecky, Tomas » $3,000,000 UFA
Bergenheim, Sean » $2,750,000 UFA
Boyes, Brad » $2,625,000 $2,625,000

I like Fleischmann, Bergenheim and Kopecky too...

- Barnaby36


Maybe this is a completely hypothetical question on your part, but there is no way Florida is on Martin's 15 team list or whatever it is he has (I believe he has something like this). And even still, no thanks to any of those guys.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Oct 30 @ 11:18 AM ET
Hmmm. I believe the Pens will have to make a corresponding Cap move to fit him into the roster. Anyone see anything about a player being sent down?

Are Harrington & Ebbett still at the NHL level?

- s0rcerer1984


Harrington and Ebbett were sent down before the Nashville game, so they have the room for Megna.

Kind of surprised they recalled him if everyone is healthy... Why not stick with the 21 man roster and save some money until they go on the road trip?
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