Franklin Steele: No News Is Good News for San Jose Sharks No Joe Thornton trade? No Patrick Marleau chatter? No problem for the Sharks.

San Jose is talking to Montreal, Eklund's "sources" said so.

Does Marleau play much center anymore? Ive mostly heard of him on the wing, but i thought i remember him being a center a while back.

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I can't say I'm happy with the defense right now. Sure losing Boyle for Burns wasn't much of a change - increased speed and size. But we gave up Stuart and kept the ever slow Hannan.
San Jose needs to get Del Zotto or make a trade for a another offensive D to run the second PP.

Does Marleau play much center anymore? Ive mostly heard of him on the wing, but i thought i remember him being a center a while back.
- BlazinMike

Patty is a natural center and originally played that for years. Problem is, they have too many centers and he can be effective on the wing with his speed more so than Couture and Pavelski could. And of course no way Jumbo doesn't play center.

My only issue with the quiet summer so far is that we were promised change but what we are getting is the exact same thing as the last few years mostly (minus that one that brought Burns over).

We have a solid team but I keep hearing this repeating in my head, which is why I am a bit concerned:

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it"

That being said....why is October and opening night SO FAR AWAY!

GO SHARKS!

How about Marleau and Nieto for Paul Martin, Rob Scuderi and Philip Samuelson? That would give you a good second pairing and a really good prospect who's lost on the depth chart for defencemen in Pitts.

How about Marleau and Nieto for Paul Martin, Rob Scuderi and Philip Samuelson? That would give you a good second pairing and a really good prospect who's lost on the depth chart for defencemen in Pitts.
- Dcoms

How about Marleau and Nieto for Paul Martin, Rob Scuderi and Philip Samuelson? That would give you a good second pairing and a really good prospect who's lost on the depth chart for defencemen in Pitts.
- Dcoms

I wouldn't trade Marleau alone for that.

Rob Scuderi isn't an NHL defenseman anymore.

How about Marleau and Nieto for Paul Martin, Rob Scuderi and Philip Samuelson? That would give you a good second pairing and a really good prospect who's lost on the depth chart for defencemen in Pitts.
- Dcoms

I wouldn't trade Marleau alone for that.

Rob Scuderi isn't an NHL defenseman anymore.
- BINGO!

Why because he broke his leg last year and came back way too soon? He's still a 2 time cup winner and a good leader. And he will have a bounce back season, it just can't be in Pittsburgh.

Why because he broke his leg last year and came back way too soon? He's still a 2 time cup winner and a good leader. And he will have a bounce back season, it just can't be in Pittsburgh.
- Dcoms

Probably mostly because he's old, slow and bad at hockey.

Probably mostly because he's old, slow and bad at hockey.
- eichiefs9

And yet still better than anyone the islanders have.

So more of the same. For the regular season this isn't a problem, we might have an entertaining season. We won't go deep in the playoffs. To me more of the same is a problem as I'm tired of it. As a fan for these past 20 years when I moved to California I've loved the Sharks, but they never were stale before. Now they are very stale, I didn't renew my season tickets year before last as there wasn't any big change that made me say OH THEY ARE GETTING BETTER.

I would rather see the tear down and have a few down years and see younger players growing over seeing the same old core win up till the playoffs.

And yet still better islanders has.
- Dcoms

1. No you're completely incorrect
2. Your grammar is atrocious
3. Even if that were true it's completely irrelevant. Rob Scuderi is bad at hockey and that has no bearing on the Islanders defenseman whatsoever.
4. Nobody wants him

Why because he broke his leg last year and came back way too soon? He's still a 2 time cup winner and a good leader. And he will have a bounce back season, it just can't be in Pittsburgh.
- Dcoms

No, because he's old, he's slow, he makes terrible decisions with the puck and his numbers show that he has been a negative possession defender for the past 4 seasons (Getting progressively worse) and that his team consistently has a harder time scoring when he's on the ice.

No, because he's old, he's slow, he makes terrible decisions with the puck and his numbers show that he has been a negative possession defender for the past 4 seasons (Getting progressively worse) and that his team consistently has a harder time scoring when he's on the ice.
- BINGO!

have to figure the abysmal pens team defense has something to do with that rather than he was solely the reason they were terrible.

1. No you're completely incorrect
2. Your grammar is atrocious
3. Even if that were true it's completely irrelevant. Rob Scuderi is bad at hockey and that has no bearing on the Islanders defenseman whatsoever.
4. Nobody wants him
- eichiefs9

So you cut half the words out of my post and then tell me I have bad grammar? Nice job DB! Scuderi is an improvement over Hannan, Irwin and Braun and Martin even more so. But I'm completely incorrect because you say so, ok then.

So you cut half the words out of my post and then tell me I have bad grammar? Nice job DB! Scuderi is an improvement over Hannan, Irwin and Braun and Martin even more so. But I'm completely incorrect because you say so, ok then.
- Dcoms

I think the answer to your question is a few posts up - he's old slow and a poor possesion player. Regardless of who he's better than - you dont trade marleau adn nieto for Paul Martin and a mostly useless Scuderi.

have to figure the abysmal pens team defense has something to do with that rather than he was solely the reason they were terrible.
- hiway39

Unfortunately unlikely. While it certainly didn't help, his most common teammates this year we're Crosby, Jokinen, Sutter, Niskanen and Letang.

Also, he's been a negative possession player since 2010.

I think the answer to your question is a few posts up - he's old slow and a poor possesion player. Regardless of who he's better than - you dont trade marleau adn nieto for Paul Martin and a mostly useless Scuderi.
- Joel_Eh

I know Marleau for Martin has been discussed between the 2 teams and it stalled somewhere. I actually like the sharks, I watched 75+ of their games last season. And Vlasic and Boyle played most of the game and the biggest reason they let the kings come back in the playoffs is they lost vlasic and had no one else to step up for him. I think most pens fans are trying to unload scuderi, not because it's over for him but because he's in the way of the development of a very talented prospect pool that deserve/ need opportunities this season. Martin is their most consistent defencemen and I would personally hate to lose him but the kids need to play.

I know Marleau for Martin has been discussed between the 2 teams and it stalled somewhere. I actually like the sharks, I watched 75+ of their games last season. And Vlasic and Boyle played most of the game and the biggest reason they let the kings come back in the playoffs is they lost vlasic and had no one else to step up for him. I think most pens fans are trying to unload scuderi, not because it's over for him but because he's in the way of the development of a very talented prospect pool that deserve/ need opportunities this season. Martin is their most consistent defencemen and I would personally hate to lose him but the kids need to play.
- Dcoms

Be that as it may it still doesnt make that deal good for the sharks. Paul Martin is not worth Patrick Marleau.

So you cut half the words out of my post and then tell me I have bad grammar? Nice job DB! Scuderi is an improvement over Hannan, Irwin and Braun and Martin even more so. But I'm completely incorrect because you say so, ok then.
- Dcoms

Yeah I totally took the time to fabricate you being stupid. Man, it's a good thing you can't go back and edit your post or there might be a major hole in your story.

I know Marleau for Martin has been discussed between the 2 teams and it stalled somewhere. I actually like the sharks, I watched 75+ of their games last season. And Vlasic and Boyle played most of the game and the biggest reason they let the kings come back in the playoffs is they lost vlasic and had no one else to step up for him. I think most pens fans are trying to unload scuderi, not because it's over for him but because he's in the way of the development of a very talented prospect pool that deserve/ need opportunities this season. Martin is their most consistent defencemen and I would personally hate to lose him but the kids need to play.
- Dcoms

Source?

Scuderi is an improvement over Hannan, Irwin and Braun.
- Dcoms

Scuderi is not an improvement over Braun. Braun's pretty good.