Ryan Wilson: Potential Under the Radar Bottom 6 Option For Penguins Potential Under the Radar Bottom 6 Option

Ryan Wilson: Potential Under the Radar Bottom 6 Option For Penguins
Potential Under the Radar Bottom 6 Option
- Ryan_Wilson

greening

he's good, i swear

greening

he's good, i swear
- sensarmy_11

Haha, I read Travis' work on a regular basis, good try.

Haha, I read Travis' work on a regular basis, good try.
- Ryan_Wilson

travis is crazy, don't listen to him

Raymond could be a cheaper replacement for Jussi. Give him a chance to play on Geno's line, but ultimately have him on the 3rd line.

Raymond is the missing link to the Pens success..



Get rid of Fleury.

I was so going to have first post... had a coworker not came in wanting to discuss the Pirates, World Cup, ESP(Lebro)N and then the World Cup again ~_~

More on point... If the Pens can take on this player, or one similar in replace of Glass and or Pyatt, bring em on. It's not a one stop fix, but cut off the weakest links is the best way to start. But we may not go that crazy in free agency due to the multiple injuries that are going to hinder the start of the season until players come back.

Ryan Wilson: Potential Under the Radar Bottom 6 Option For Penguins
Potential Under the Radar Bottom 6 Option
- Ryan_Wilson

Raymond had a decent year, he'll be looking for a raise and longer contract, could that fit?? Scoring 19g would probably net him close to a $2.5-3.3M dollar a year contract. I just don't see him taking another low contract especially the year he just had...

I really know nothing of him or any other potential bottom 6 players outside the Pens, just don't have the time to follow. But I looked up his stats, not too bad. I noticed he is 6' 185 lbs, a bit on the slim side. Does he have the ability to drop bodies down low?

from yesterdays blog...cuz i didn't type all this for nothing.

Does it bother anyone else that Hynes is interviewing?? Wasn't he taught by DB and follow the same coaching techniques?

Reverend- you watch wbs a lot. Do you see the same things going on in wbs that u did with pens? Ie line juggling, use of players wrong, sticking with a goalie you shouldnt??

I tried to follow them this season and in playoffs and I feel they fell apart like the big pens..

I would think with a new gm they want a coach from out of the org.. like John Stevens or tocchett or ulf or whoever..
- nh4442


Hynes was the US Developmental coach prior to coming to WBS. He knows how to deal with the young ins and how to develop them. He does command and earn respect from behind the bench. Even from his looks he is a no non-sense head coach.

What I like about him is that at every home came as he leaves the ice after warm ups he looks up at me and says hello every game as I am a STH and my seat is the front row on top of the WBS tunnel and so does Naz and Guerin. I say this because he has obviously set a standard that staff as well as players should not play in a bubble and are aware of their surroundings and take notice...that goes along way with me because it proves that he is a "Big Picture" coach rather than a "Living in the Zone" Coach. I think this is one of the reasons players like playing for him.

As far as coaching goes...Hynes is NOT afraid to mix things up in the second or third period if he spots a trend, proven by the fact that very rarely is the team blown out in a game. If defeated its usually not more than a goal or two and many occasions its a empty netter.

He has had to deal with injuries and call ups due to Pitt ongoings so he is able to adapt in that regard as well. WBS lost a lot of players last off season and he had to rely on incoming rookies and prospects a lot and still made it to the Eastern Conf. Championship.

I won't say they fell apart at all, they broke down due to injury and were beaten by a very good St. Johns Ice Caps team (Winnipeg's Farm) in 6 games. Also, understand that due to Sheros drafting style, he had little offense especially skilled here until Kobasew, Ebbett, and Gibbons were sent down which I also think says a lot. He can get a lot out of his players with little to work with. I think that being that he had a bunch of his players sent up and they were able to for the most part hold their own in Pitt for a few games says a lot.

With all that nonsense being said, my concern is...does he have his own system? I don't know. He's been in a developmental atmosphere his entire coaching career and had to play Byslmas system in WBS as well so I am not sure what he will do. My hunch is he will play a defensive style system with a lot of grinding...very working class that would allow Pitts stars to shine if he has the right players on the bench. Probably similar to Coach T. in Montreal without outward self control and anger issues. So if I am right, prepare to see a team very similar to the Habs but with more scary offense.

Is he ready for the HC spot? I am not sure. The safe bet would be as an asst, but I wouldn't be upset if they took a chance on him...otherwise, Id like to see Ulf over Tocchet.

Also...Hynes never coached under Byslma...he was brought in from outside the org after disco brought up Reirdan from WBS who was the HC.

Raymond definitely fills the speed quota of Mario's "Speed and Grit" comment.

^^^^^^^ Not gonna quote for the text blockness... but thanks for the info Reverend

Raymond definitely fills the speed quota of Mario's "Speed and Grit" comment.
- Ben37

The only grit Raymond has, must be hiding.. Pretty damn soft player.

Reverend, what is his personality and demeanor on the bench like?

One of my faults with Bylsma is his lack of emotion. That can work if you have a really strong team/lockerroom )see LA Kings). But, if there is a void of leadership and players policing themselves like the Pens have been at times, I think you need a strong leader on the bench.

Thanks Rev. That's exactly the write up I was hoping. Now we will wait and see what JR will do..

No on Raymond. Injury history, doesn't hit, doesn't block shots. We've got a few of those already. Goc is more versatile and would cost the equivalent or less.

Reverend, what is his personality and demeanor on the bench like?

One of my faults with Bylsma is his lack of emotion. That can work if you have a really strong team/lockerroom )see LA Kings). But, if there is a void of leadership and players policing themselves like the Pens have been at times, I think you need a strong leader on the bench.
- rival22

Very professional. He doesn't flip out like Coach T. but he and his team is very disciplined. He doesn't stand there like a totem pole either. He will communicate his issues with the refs and also lets his asst coaches do their jobs as well. He approaches coaching as a team with his staff and it seems he allows them to coach. Don't get me wrong he is the HC. You will rarely see him get red in the face but he isn't completely unemotional either. Trust me you can tell when going into the locker room if his team is going to catch some poop during intermission. He is very focused though but doesn't get lost either, he would remind you of a Special Ops soldier in many ways. Focused, confident, no nonsense, hard work ethic, fair to his team, gives, commands, and earns respect. I haven't hear one gripe about the guy from any player interactions or interviews.

Didn't Raymond have some bad injury troubles though?

I wouldn't mind the signing, but you figure he would have to get in the area of 2.0-2.4 AAV on term of 3 years after last season. He could be a good third liner to go along with Sutter.

If they have someone like Jacques as head coach then I would assume Babcock gets chased next year. If Hynes is brought up it would eliminate the Babcock talk with a good year. Everything in management is a bridge-situation, coaching might be the same deal.

No on Raymond. Injury history, doesn't hit, doesn't block shots. We've got a few of those already. Goc is more versatile and would cost the equivalent or less.
- Topshelf Mountain

I echo these viewpoints on MR. Plus, he'll likely contract for more than we can afford.

Agree on Goc as well.

Good post..

Did Raymond score more goals then our entire 3rd line?

I would only go after Raymond if he could be had for cheap... But that's prolly not an option... I'd rather bring in kulemin to play alongside Malkin... I'd try to re-sign Goc to Center the fourth line.. Provided that it's around 1-1.5 mil

I would only go after Raymond if he could be had for cheap... But that's prolly not an option... I'd rather bring in kulemin to play alongside Malkin... I'd try to re-sign Goc to Center the fourth line.. Provided that it's around 1-1.5 mil
- Kunit

This is where its going to get really interesting.

Do they keep trying to fill the 4th line with $1 mill per year veteran ham-and-eggers (i.e. Glass, Pyatt, etc..). Do they trust some of the young guys to fill these spots. Or, do they move other expensive players in an attempt to better balance the roster.

This is where its going to get really interesting.

Do they keep trying to fill the 4th line with $1 mill per year veteran ham-and-eggers (i.e. Glass, Pyatt, etc..). Do they trust some of the young guys to fill these spots. Or, do they move other expensive players in an attempt to better balance the roster.
- 87_71_11_29

Zolnierczyk-Goc-Sill/Gibbons/Vitale

Relatively cheap 4th line options right there. Any injury up top would allow Goc to move up and Sill or Vitale could file in at center.

All of this is in house. Not so hard.

This is where its going to get really interesting.

Do they keep trying to fill the 4th line with $1 mill per year veteran ham-and-eggers (i.e. Glass, Pyatt, etc..). Do they trust some of the young guys to fill these spots. Or, do they move other expensive players in an attempt to better balance the roster.
- 87_71_11_29

Preferably, the 4th and even 3rd lines would be better fit to have a somewhat veteran (at least non rookie) as their centers with the young gun wingers on each of those lines for this team. Makes it the most doable with the top heavy cap hit, and is not a bad choice vs what the Pens were trying to do beforehand.