Colin Dambrauskas: Calgary Flames "willing to move" Mikael Backlund?

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Interesting discussion over in the Tampa thread about a possible Connolly for Cammalleri trade. Is there any truth to that? and would Calgary do that deal?

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Interesting discussion over in the Tampa thread about a possible Connolly for Cammalleri trade. Is there any truth to that? and would Calgary do that deal?
- fudd1689

Some of it had to do with this blog I wrote, I think...

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...y-Stars--Flames/171/55677

Project for project?

Luke Adam and mid pick (3rd?) for Backlund

Adam has been doing great in the AHL as a winger....played center most of his career.

Showed some flashes two seasons ago and came out guns blazing on our top line but had some consistency/attitude issues. Hes back up with us and is playing fine but hes not going to show on the stat sheet as our team is probably worse than our minor league team he was called up from....

would you move Wotherspoon or Rampage?
What if the deal is added to, Cammalleri and a D propsect, for Connolly and a conditional draft pick (2nd to 3rd?) if he resigns

Helps soften the risks of trading for UFA and for colnnolly who knows if he is over his hip issues.

Some of it had to do with this blog I wrote, I think...

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...y-Stars--Flames/171/55677
- Colin Dambrauskas

I think Connolly would be a great addition to the Flames. Cammalleri is on an expiring contract, and if he could net a young player like Connolly I would do it.

Project for project?

Luke Adam and mid pick (3rd?) for Backlund


- SiloCity

That's actually an interesting one, because the Flames tried to get Adam before (Regehr deal maybe?) but it fell through.

I find this Backlund talk distressing. I just don't think its the right time as he is 1 of our few actual NHL centerman. Hartley is destroying any confidence he had but be still impacts the game when not scoring.

That said, he still has promise and a decent cap hit for 2seasons so if he helps get us a good return, ill be ok with it. If it becomes simply giving up on a young player and the brass feels they need to recover anything they can get, ill be pissed!

would you move Wotherspoon or Rampage?
What if the deal is added to, Cammalleri and a D propsect, for Connolly and a conditional draft pick (2nd to 3rd?) if he resigns

Helps soften the risks of trading for UFA and for colnnolly who knows if he is over his hip issues.
- DDM-Coga

I would like Connolly in CGY but I wouldn't give up a sniper and a solid prospect like Wotherspoon for him. Hes not even playing in the NHL right now. Plus questons of attitude and innuries.... Cammi for Connolly straight up I would do but I wouldnt give up more.

I find this Backlund talk distressing. I just don't think its the right time as he is 1 of our few actual NHL centerman. Hartley is destroying any confidence he had but be still impacts the game when not scoring.

That said, he still has promise and a decent cap hit for 2seasons so if he helps get us a good return, ill be ok with it. If it becomes simply giving up on a young player and the brass feels they need to recover anything they can get, ill be pissed!
- TandA4Flames

It wont be...its not like they need cap space or anything...

would you move Wotherspoon or Rampage?
What if the deal is added to, Cammalleri and a D propsect, for Connolly and a conditional draft pick (2nd to 3rd?) if he resigns

Helps soften the risks of trading for UFA and for colnnolly who knows if he is over his hip issues.
- DDM-Coga

That definitely would be a concern for sure.

I would like Connolly in CGY but I wouldn't give up a sniper and a solid prospect like Wotherspoon for him. Hes not even playing in the NHL right now. Plus questons of attitude and innuries.... Cammi for Connolly straight up I would do but I wouldnt give up more.
- TandA4Flames

The rumor has nothing to it. Yzerman has no reason to move him. He is young and has ALOT of potential.

Remember when Hartley let Backlund play with Cammy and Hudler for half a game and they had 6 points combined. Next game right back to the fourth line. Only other wingers he's really played with are Galiardi, who also has been dissapointing offensively and Stempniak or Jones when they were a: Slumping or b: returning from injury or c: all of the above.

I like the way Colborne is playing and agree that he also shouldn't be on the fourth line but maybe there's another center we have that's a little bit older with a little more value?

Toss Cammy to Washington, I think since Erat has publicalyl said he wants out you could hose them on a deal

Cammy, and retain 2m of his salary to make the cap works for Erat and a solid prospect, like Dmitri Orlov.

I don't think Stajan will be around next year as his contract expires. Rather than trade Backlund I think it will be smarter moving Stajan at or before the deadline. The advanced stats guys love Backlund and his possession numbers, and along with his great defensive numbers I think we need to keep him!

I find this Backlund talk distressing. I just don't think its the right time as he is 1 of our few actual NHL centerman. Hartley is destroying any confidence he had but be still impacts the game when not scoring.

That said, he still has promise and a decent cap hit for 2seasons so if he helps get us a good return, ill be ok with it. If it becomes simply giving up on a young player and the brass feels they need to recover anything they can get, ill be pissed!
- TandA4Flames

I don't think it's the right time either. I cant remember who but some gentleman pointed out that when Backs played wing with Berglund during the lockout he killed it. Why not try that before trading him. If we are going to trade him at least pump up his value & give him decent circumstances.

ON the other hand if Backs isn't quite a top 6 centreman & many of us feel he's on the cusp but just seems to falter or get injured when he's just about there, I guess you move him if the return is decent enough. Backs on the 3rd line is really that much better than what maybe Knight or Reinhart or Colbourne brings to this team for 3rd line centre? If he's part of a bigger package that can get us a more important piece, then I would be a little disappointed but not devastated if they decided to pull the trigger on a trade.

Toss Cammy to Washington, I think since Erat has publicalyl said he wants out you could hose them on a deal

Cammy, and retain 2m of his salary to make the cap works for Erat and a solid prospect, like Dmitri Orlov.
- DDM-Coga

Haven't heard much about Orlov but to take on a 32 year old in Erat he better be good.

I don't think it's the right time either. I cant remember who but some gentleman pointed out that when Backs played wing with Berglund during the lockout he killed it. Why not try that before trading him. If we are going to trade him at least pump up his value & give him decent circumstances.

ON the other hand if Backs isn't quite a top 6 centreman & many of us feel he's on the cusp but just seems to falter or get injured when he's just about there, I guess you move him if the return is decent enough. Backs on the 3rd line is really that much better than what maybe Knight or Reinhart or Colbourne brings to this team for 3rd line centre? If he's part of a bigger package that can get us a more important piece, then I would be a little disappointed but not devastated if they decided to pull the trigger on a trade.
- Kevin R

I've said it in other threads. You can't have the expectation that Backlund will produce offensively when he is constantly playing on a line with Bouma and McGrattan. To ask him to step up that side of his game and give him next to no tools to work with makes no sense.

I honestly believe that he should be put on the wing, and it should be on the wing with Monahan and Baertschi. Then he definitely has offensive tools to work with and can contribute to. And his much developed defensive abilities (to which he is playing great now) will balance out the short comings of the two rookies (as they develop their defensive game). Even have him take over as center in the defensive end, and Monahan handle that position offensively. Two capable centermen to take draws is also a great advantage.

The other lines will work out from there. Put Hudler with Cammi and Colborne, and Stajan with Stempniak and Glencross. They wanted to try Galiardi as a center, then have him center that 4th line. His style of play may contribute to the energy / physical aspect that his needed in a 4th line.

Regardless it is too early to give up on Backlund. Once Stajan is gone for next season (1 has to assume he won't be back next year) then the position isn't such a log jam and Backlunds spot in it becomes much more clear.

I've said it in other threads. You can't have the expectation that Backlund will produce offensively when he is constantly playing on a line with Bouma and McGrattan. To ask him to step up that side of his game and give him next to no tools to work with makes no sense.

I honestly believe that he should be put on the wing, and it should be on the wing with Monahan and Baertschi. Then he definitely has offensive tools to work with and can contribute to. And his much developed defensive abilities (to which he is playing great now) will balance out the short comings of the two rookies (as they develop their defensive game). Even have him take over as center in the defensive end, and Monahan handle that position offensively. Two capable centermen to take draws is also a great advantage.

The other lines will work out from there. Put Hudler with Cammi and Colborne, and Stajan with Stempniak and Glencross. They wanted to try Galiardi as a center, then have him center that 4th line. His style of play may contribute to the energy / physical aspect that his needed in a 4th line.

Regardless it is too early to give up on Backlund. Once Stajan is gone for next season (1 has to assume he won't be back next year) then the position isn't such a log jam and Backlunds spot in it becomes much more clear.
- dal_johnson

This, this, this. Not many players are gonna light it up playing with Bouma and McGrattan.

Haven't heard much about Orlov but to take on a 32 year old in Erat he better be good.
- whipper334

Seems like a solid D man in the making, young, has produced while playing with the caps, but for some reason he is sent down to the AHL this season.

There is always the kuznetsov option, but who knows when that guy will come to North America

I don't think it's the right time either. I cant remember who but some gentleman pointed out that when Backs played wing with Berglund during the lockout he killed it. Why not try that before trading him. If we are going to trade him at least pump up his value & give him decent circumstances.

ON the other hand if Backs isn't quite a top 6 centreman & many of us feel he's on the cusp but just seems to falter or get injured when he's just about there, I guess you move him if the return is decent enough. Backs on the 3rd line is really that much better than what maybe Knight or Reinhart or Colbourne brings to this team for 3rd line centre? If he's part of a bigger package that can get us a more important piece, then I would be a little disappointed but not devastated if they decided to pull the trigger on a trade.
- Kevin R

Yea, not sure if it was me you got this from but I've brought up the Backlund on the wing thing a few times. And I still stand by it. I don't get why Hartley isn't trying to give some favourable situations to ohr young players to get their confidence going. When the lockout ended Backlund came back with a ton of confidence. The hard line appproach just isn't working with him. Something Backs has proven he can do.

Also, looking forward, as other young prospects start trying to cut their teeth in the NHL we will need so.eone to handle the tough minutes so the young guys can be given softer minutes.

I've said it in other threads. You can't have the expectation that Backlund will produce offensively when he is constantly playing on a line with Bouma and McGrattan. To ask him to step up that side of his game and give him next to no tools to work with makes no sense.

I honestly believe that he should be put on the wing, and it should be on the wing with Monahan and Baertschi. Then he definitely has offensive tools to work with and can contribute to. And his much developed defensive abilities (to which he is playing great now) will balance out the short comings of the two rookies (as they develop their defensive game). Even have him take over as center in the defensive end, and Monahan handle that position offensively. Two capable centermen to take draws is also a great advantage.

The other lines will work out from there. Put Hudler with Cammi and Colborne, and Stajan with Stempniak and Glencross. They wanted to try Galiardi as a center, then have him center that 4th line. His style of play may contribute to the energy / physical aspect that his needed in a 4th line.

Regardless it is too early to give up on Backlund. Once Stajan is gone for next season (1 has to assume he won't be back next year) then the position isn't such a log jam and Backlunds spot in it becomes much more clear.
- dal_johnson

Agreed!

Seems like a solid D man in the making, young, has produced while playing with the caps, but for some reason he is sent down to the AHL this season.

There is always the kuznetsov option, but who knows when that guy will come to North America
- DDM-Coga

Yeah that's weird he hasn't come over yet.