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IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Sep 18 @ 10:07 AM ET
Ian Esplen: Luongo at the top of Toews list Luongo at the top of Toews list
dshiddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canucks blogger in disguise., BC
Joined: 06.23.2008

Sep 18 @ 10:17 AM ET
Luongo has been the best goalie the past 10 years, now he's only top 10.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Sep 18 @ 10:18 AM ET
So this brings about the question, does Toews know hockey


You forgot part of the question:

"better than the other ten players who voted for someone else and 29 GM's who weren't willing to trade much for Luongo?"


And the answer is no. One good player throwing out Luongo's name for a random interview question (while shrugging his shoulder's as if saying "I guess") doesn't make the answer true.

Luongo is a good goalie. He had some time as one of the tops in the league. But after a couple years of Canucks fans whining about him getting starts over the superior Schneider; this backtracking and suggesting Luongo is one of the best in the game is just humorous.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 18 @ 10:20 AM ET
Wayne Gretzky said Ron Hextall was the best goalie he ever played against. So, by the logic here, Ron Hextall is one of the greatest goalies of all time...in fact, since Gretzky holds the record for career goals and points, that would make Hextall the greatest goalie of all time. I doubt most people would agree to that though.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 18 @ 10:21 AM ET
Wayne Gretzky said Ron Hextall was the best goalie he ever played against. So, by the logic here, Ron Hextall is one of the greatest goalies of all time. I doubt most people would agree to that though.
- jmatchett383


Back in his playing days, I wouldnt dare to tell that to Hextalls face, he has ways to persaude you
ky678468
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax , NS
Joined: 09.20.2011

Sep 18 @ 10:23 AM ET
To me Lundqvist is a clear head above everyone right now, he's the best and he's been there for a long time. In the new NHL the team in front of the goalie makes a bigger difference than in the late 90's where a team could play the trap in front of a top goalie and win 1-0.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 18 @ 10:23 AM ET
Back in his playing days, I wouldnt dare to tell that to Hextalls face, he has ways to persaude you
- DDM-Coga


haha, he certainly did.
Popcorn Kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.21.2008

Sep 18 @ 10:23 AM ET
King Henrik
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Sep 18 @ 10:23 AM ET
Oh, but since you bring up espn's rankings; how about Bieksa and Edler being tied with JBo for 27th best D in the league?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 18 @ 10:25 AM ET
I have to say. I am a little surprised Reimer did not make the list
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 18 @ 10:25 AM ET
Oh, but since you bring up espn's rankings; how about Bieksa and Edler being tied with JBo for 27th best D in the league?

- Antilles



jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 18 @ 10:26 AM ET
I have to say. I am a little surprised Reimer did not make the list
- VANTEL


I'm surprised Crosby didn't say his buddy Flower.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Sep 18 @ 10:27 AM ET
Oh, but since you bring up espn's rankings; how about Bieksa and Edler being tied with JBo for 27th best D in the league?

- Antilles


ummm, I may be wrong on this one, but I don't think Toews does those rankings.

this was Toews' list, not ESPN's.

And yes, I put a heck of a lot more stock in what Toews has to say over the idiots at ESPN
dshiddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canucks blogger in disguise., BC
Joined: 06.23.2008

Sep 18 @ 10:27 AM ET
To me Lundqvist is a clear head above everyone right now, he's the best and he's been there for a long time. In the new NHL the team in front of the goalie makes a bigger difference than in the late 90's where a team could play the trap in front of a top goalie and win 1-0.
- ky678468


Lundqvist is the sexy choice, but he's overrated. The guy has never taken the Rangers anywhere. I'd take 3 guys over him.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Sep 18 @ 10:28 AM ET
Lundqvist is the sexy choice, but he's overrated. The guy has never taken the Rangers anywhere. I'd take 3 guys over him.
- dshiddy


Isn't Lundqvist 3...or maybe 6 guys?

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 18 @ 10:29 AM ET
Lundqvist is the sexy choice, but he's overrated. The guy has never taken the Rangers anywhere. I'd take 3 guys over him.
- dshiddy


No he hasn't, but he won Sweden a gold medal in the Olympics. I'd say he and Quick are a tight top 2, and then there's guys like Rinne and Luongo after him.
dshiddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canucks blogger in disguise., BC
Joined: 06.23.2008

Sep 18 @ 10:31 AM ET
Isn't Lundqvist 3...or maybe 6 guys?
- IanEsplen


He said he was number one.

Luongo, Lack and Cannata are better.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Sep 18 @ 10:31 AM ET
No he hasn't, but he won Sweden a gold medal in the Olympics.
- jmatchett383


So the Sedins are winners too?
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Sep 18 @ 10:31 AM ET
Oh, but since you bring up espn's rankings; how about Bieksa and Edler being tied with JBo for 27th best D in the league?

- Antilles


That was a pretty lousy list. There are several in the 9-26 range that I'd place all three ahead of.

Their goalie list was garbage as well.

IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Sep 18 @ 10:31 AM ET
He said he was number one.

Luongo, Lack and Cannata are better.

- dshiddy


snubbing JE?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Sep 18 @ 10:31 AM ET
You forgot part of the question:

"better than the other ten players who voted for someone else and 29 GM's who weren't willing to trade much for Luongo?"


And the answer is no. One good player throwing out Luongo's name for a random interview question doesn't make the answer true.

Luongo is a good goalie. He had some time as one of the tops in the league. But after a couple years of Canucks fans whining about him getting starts over the superior Schneider; this backtracking and suggesting Luongo is one of the best in the game is just humorous.

- Antilles


This is nothing more than toews giving his choice for Canada's starting goalie .... Little surprised the captain of a team would not say his own goalie but to be fair anyone with any hockey knowledge should see that the starter job for Sochi is loungos to lose

As for best goalie in the nhl .... Lu doesn't crack the top 5 let alone top 10 right now ... But give him a full season as a starter behind torts system and he just may surprise a few Canuck haters/Lu doubters


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 18 @ 10:31 AM ET
So the Sedins are winners too?
- IanEsplen


Yes, on the international level they are Gold Medal champions.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Sep 18 @ 10:32 AM ET
That was a pretty lousy list. There are several in the 9-26 range that I'd place all three ahead of.

Their goalie list was garbage as well.

- Fosco



shhh..don't let the Blues fans know ESPN isn't a real source for hockey.
dshiddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canucks blogger in disguise., BC
Joined: 06.23.2008

Sep 18 @ 10:32 AM ET
snubbing JE?
- IanEsplen


He's number 5.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Sep 18 @ 10:33 AM ET
ummm, I may be wrong on this one, but I don't think Toews does those rankings.

this was Toews' list, not ESPN's.

And yes, I put a heck of a lot more stock in what Toews has to say over the idiots at ESPN

- IanEsplen


Again, you put more stock in what Toews has to say than all the other players they asked; and all the GM's who didn't think Luongo was worth giving much up for? Toews just threw a random name out with a shrug of his shoulders.
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