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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 17 @ 10:37 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Talk is Cheap
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 10:38 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Talk is Cheap
- bmeltzer


time to show up
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 17 @ 10:49 AM ET
good read Bill, good teams find ways to win close games.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 17 @ 10:54 AM ET
TIME TO PANIC
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Feb 17 @ 10:55 AM ET
TIME TO PANIC
- Just5

I'd say so
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Feb 17 @ 10:57 AM ET
good read Bill, good teams find ways to win close games.
- mydoglicks

but the Habs aren't that good of a team.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Feb 17 @ 10:57 AM ET
A painful read. Reality sux.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 17 @ 10:57 AM ET
I think Lavy is an excellent coach but the team is putting forth a half ass effort on a regular basis. That being said, the coach has to find a way to push their buttons. Often times a coaches job transcends X's and O's. between the shortcomings of the personnel and the lousy efforts. It's a recipe for disaster which in turn will force upper management's hand.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 17 @ 10:57 AM ET
I'd say so
- griouxmvp2012


Cooter and a 2nd for jaybo
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Feb 17 @ 10:58 AM ET
At least they picked a good year to suck lol
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 17 @ 10:58 AM ET
One of the things I have been wondering is if Hartnell is really the heart of this team.
His personality, fairly consistent performance over the past few years, willingness to go to the dirty areas..everything he brings.. How much is the team missing that?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 17 @ 10:59 AM ET
Cooter and a 2nd for jaybo
- Just5


Let me get this straight..they wouldnt move Cooter for a Weber but they would for Bowmeester?

Im really not opposed to trading Couturier either but it has to be a stud coming back that is young /.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Feb 17 @ 11:00 AM ET
Cooter and a 2nd for jaybo
- Just5

Umm no lol maybe for oreilly
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 17 @ 11:01 AM ET
A painful read. Reality sux.
- FlyersFirst

Not really, the potential of the youth is still there.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 17 @ 11:02 AM ET
The team needs a big shot in the arm. Im not sure if changing the coach does it. Im not sure getting Hartnell back does it. Im not sure a trade does it. But if things continue like this there are going to be some big changes come the offseason.

Don't take this as me placing blame on one guy but if this continues I don't know how you can address these issues in the offseason without buying out some big contracts. I'm talking about Briere mainly. I know, Mr Playoffs. But what about the regular season numbers in comparison to cap hit? You need legit game in game out game changer for that money. Also, the fact we keep drafting Centers. We have Giroux Coots Schenn Laughton Read and Cousins whom all should be capable, making it that much harder to justify.

Im not all gung ho to buy out Briere but if things don't start to turn around for this team I think the hand starts to be forced.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Feb 17 @ 11:03 AM ET
The season is slipping away ... if it hasn't already slipped.

They certainly can't go much longer without making some significant moves to change the makeup of this roster.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Feb 17 @ 11:04 AM ET
The season is slipping away ... if it hasn't already slipped.

They certainly can't go much longer without making some significant moves to change the makeup of this roster.

- FlyerGuy

Fire sale??
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Feb 17 @ 11:04 AM ET
but the Habs aren't that good of a team.
- Symba007


everyone told me the habs would be in 15th... still could happen i guess
wbon22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.21.2008

Feb 17 @ 11:04 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Talk is Cheap
- bmeltzer

Bill,

When does someone come out and say that in order for the team as it is made up is not good enough. Even with Hartnell and Mez, the blue line is too thin, there is not enough consistent board work by the wings and frankly...there is too little desire to go into the dirty places.

It is just beyond frustrating...the more you look, the more glaring issues become and the harder to see a way out.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 17 @ 11:05 AM ET
Cooter and a 2nd for jaybo
- Just5

Wanna start some fireworks? Here you go:

Shoulda gave Kimo the "C" not the 6 mil... Have at it
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 17 @ 11:07 AM ET
The team needs a big shot in the arm. Im not sure if changing the coach does it. Im not sure getting Hartnell back does it. Im not sure a trade does it. But if things continue like this there are going to be some big changes come the offseason.

Don't take this as me placing blame on one guy but if this continues I don't know how you can address these issues in the offseason without buying out some big contracts. I'm talking about Briere mainly. I know, Mr Playoffs. But what about the regular season numbers in comparison to cap hit? You need legit game in game out game changer for that money. Also, the fact we keep drafting Centers. We have Giroux Coots Schenn Laughton Read and Cousins whom all should be capable, making it that much harder to justify.

Im not all gung ho to buy out Briere but if things don't start to turn around for this team I think the hand starts to be forced.

- hereticpride


I mentioned this last season, your hands are going to get sore arguing; you've been warned
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Feb 17 @ 11:08 AM ET
Fire sale??
- griouxmvp2012


send us couturier and well send you eller and a 2nd or eller and a prospect.
puckhead7
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.13.2007

Feb 17 @ 11:08 AM ET
The team needs a big shot in the arm. Im not sure if changing the coach does it. Im not sure getting Hartnell back does it. Im not sure a trade does it. But if things continue like this there are going to be some big changes come the offseason.

Don't take this as me placing blame on one guy but if this continues I don't know how you can address these issues in the offseason without buying out some big contracts. I'm talking about Briere mainly. I know, Mr Playoffs. But what about the regular season numbers in comparison to cap hit? You need legit game in game out game changer for that money. Also, the fact we keep drafting Centers. We have Giroux Coots Schenn Laughton Read and Cousins whom all should be capable, making it that much harder to justify.

Im not all gung ho to buy out Briere but if things don't start to turn around for this team I think the hand starts to be forced.

- hereticpride


I agree that this move might be forthcoming in the not to distant future. But the Flyers depth right now is pitiful. A line with Knuble, Briere, Fedotenko? Cmon....
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 17 @ 11:08 AM ET
Wanna start some fireworks? Here you go:

Shoulda gave Kimo the "C" not the 6 mil... Have at it

- JoeRussomanno



I dont think that would have made any difference.
The Flyers do not have enough A level talent right now.
With Kimo as captain you still have that problem.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 17 @ 11:09 AM ET
fire lavi dump the vets let terry murray teach the kids how to play defense
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