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Kamal Panesar
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Oct 16 @ 3:16 PM ET
Kamal Panesar: NHL CBA Negotiations: NHL offers 50/50 Split to NHLPA
dawgzhouse
Location: Ottawa
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM ET
Kamal Panesar: NHL CBA Negotiations: NHL offers 50/50 Split to NHLPA
- Kamal Panesar


If the NHLPA returns to reject the entire offer the NHL will not negotiate against itself in the future. We could be looking at a two-year lockout.
Kamal Panesar
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Oct 16 @ 3:30 PM ET
If the NHLPA returns to reject the entire offer the NHL will not negotiate against itself in the future. We could be looking at a two-year lockout.
- dawgzhouse


I agree.

Again, barring anything completely ludicrous that comes out of the PA's examination of the proposal, IF they reject it this thing will go a long time...and I think everyone on both sides knows that.

IMO, this is a starting point and the PA will treat it as such.
willey101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i
Joined: 10.06.2005

Oct 16 @ 3:55 PM ET
With that said my money is on the NHLPA rejecting the offer
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Oct 16 @ 4:20 PM ET
No more bettman photos!
Chip McCleary
St Louis Blues
Location: Madison, WI
Joined: 06.28.2008

Oct 16 @ 4:36 PM ET
The NHLPA isn't going to get anything better than 50/50 from the owners at this point. Their best bet is to take that and fight in other areas: 5-year limits on contracts, 4-year ELC's, and such. Moving UFA to 28 isn't the worst thing in the world, they may want to put up a token fight there to get the other stuff.

If they try to fight the 50/50 split, it's not unthinkable that the owners pull the latest offer entirely and tell the players "when you're dead broke and really, really need the money, let us know - we'll tell you what you'll get at that point."
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Oct 16 @ 5:32 PM ET
Like him or not, Bettman is no fool. He has played this scenario out long before it happened. The NHL has seemingly made consession after consession while the PA has seemingly stood firm. You say the NHL ownership is buckling, I say they are making a last ditch effort to be the first to go where this negotiation needed be from the beginning. The owners arent buckling, they are seeing if the PA is serious about working something out or if they want to play hardball. If the PA chooses the later, more than the year will be lost..............cause if you want a pissing contest with billionaires, better bring a serious rain suit.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Oct 17 @ 1:20 AM ET
Like him or not, Bettman is no fool. He has played this scenario out long before it happened. The NHL has seemingly made consession after consession while the PA has seemingly stood firm. You say the NHL ownership is buckling, I say they are making a last ditch effort to be the first to go where this negotiation needed be from the beginning. The owners arent buckling, they are seeing if the PA is serious about working something out or if they want to play hardball. If the PA chooses the later, more than the year will be lost..............cause if you want a pissing contest with billionaires, better bring a serious rain suit.
- Bullot


I like your analogy. Thanks.
SenCity.ca
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.14.2012

Oct 17 @ 2:37 AM ET
The NHLPA isn't going to get anything better than 50/50 from the owners at this point. Their best bet is to take that and fight in other areas: 5-year limits on contracts, 4-year ELC's, and such. Moving UFA to 28 isn't the worst thing in the world, they may want to put up a token fight there to get the other stuff.

If they try to fight the 50/50 split, it's not unthinkable that the owners pull the latest offer entirely and tell the players "when you're dead broke and really, really need the money, let us know - we'll tell you what you'll get at that point."

- Irish Blues


The NHLPA wont reject the deal, they know that if they did, they'd look like the biggest idiots...The NHL has really put the screws to them on this one and almost forced them to work with this deal just to save face, because now the onus is 100% on the players.

They will work with the parameters of the deal, but wont accept it until some things are either made clear OR altered. The NHL knows that this isnt there final offer, but its close. The small things like 5 year caps are meant to be negotiated. If the NHL really wanted 5 year caps, they would've started with 4 year caps in the proposal. Instead, they will likely settle on 6 or 7 year caps....other things as well will be negotiated.

The real sticking point is how the players are guaranteed the money they will lose this year...

I've said it all along, there will be hockey this year. The NHL knows the damage will be catastrophic if they miss another season, especially in markets that are already struggling...and when push comes to shove, the players will take the deal because I can guarantee you behind closed doors, there are more guys then you think are chopping at the bit to play.

Puckers
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.06.2011

Oct 19 @ 11:47 AM ET
The NHLPA wont reject the deal, they know that if they did, they'd look like the biggest idiots...The NHL has really put the screws to them on this one and almost forced them to work with this deal just to save face, because now the onus is 100% on the players.

They will work with the parameters of the deal, but wont accept it until some things are either made clear OR altered. The NHL knows that this isnt there final offer, but its close. The small things like 5 year caps are meant to be negotiated. If the NHL really wanted 5 year caps, they would've started with 4 year caps in the proposal. Instead, they will likely settle on 6 or 7 year caps....other things as well will be negotiated.

The real sticking point is how the players are guaranteed the money they will lose this year...

I've said it all along, there will be hockey this year. The NHL knows the damage will be catastrophic if they miss another season, especially in markets that are already struggling...and when push comes to shove, the players will take the deal because I can guarantee you behind closed doors, there are more guys then you think are chopping at the bit to play.

- SenCity.ca



Hmmm.....