obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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I think much more is needed for a team to get both. Everyone over pays at deadline. - KINGS67
Not with proven core pieces signed for 6 years they don't |
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bruinzfan77
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Location: MB Joined: 07.19.2012
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like hell it isn't - Alexzanki
That’s a Great deal IF he extends. It might be worth it for CBJ to make push and advance beyond round 1 for once. If they feel they can’t extend Panarin or Bob then either go for it OR sell at the deadline.
Personally I’d go for it and see what happens. |
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bruinzfan77
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Location: MB Joined: 07.19.2012
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Why would Ottawa move him somewhere they know he can’t extend........it kills his value. - sensarmy_11
Might still be a better deal. AND I’d like to see the Jets win the Cup or at least make the SCF. It’s a hockey town. Dirty one but still.
That’s if my teams do not play them. |
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Bartacus
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 01.08.2019
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Lol. I don’t think he lowers it to a degree where a team gets both Stone and Duchene.
That’s just me though. I don’t watch too many Sens games, I didn’t think Ceci was that bad. Wasn’t he a top prospect a few years ago? He just fell off the grid? - KINGS67
Apparently the Sens turned down a Ceci for Taylor Hall way back when, so then the Larsson deal went down. Big time miss from the Sens. Ceci's metrics are basically the worst in the league, but Ottawa likes Ottawa people (I think they believe it improves their prospects to get team friendly deals. Massively delusional.) |
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spatso
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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Makes sense for Sens to deal Stone, Duchene and Dzingle. Sens are in full rebuild. I believe new ownership is coming and this is when you do all the dirty work of bottoming out.
I believe Stone lands in Boston.
Duchene will be a great addition for the Islanders.
Dzingle goes to Buffalo.
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Bartacus
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 01.08.2019
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It's not a mystery.
He's available because all RHD on the Canes are available right now. They need to move a guy or two out to make room for Adam Fox, and they're so desperate for forward help that they'll trade whatever defenseman gets them the best forward in return. - BINGO!
...except a player of his caliber shouldn't be shuffled around this much - I get the Canes have RD depth, but Faulk has been the name on the mill most this year. DH is a recent addition to the rumor train, and the Canes JUST traded a pair of great assets for him. It all smells suspect to me. |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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Makes sense for Sens to deal Stone, Duchene and Dzingle. Sens are in full rebuild. I believe new ownership is coming and this is when you do all the dirty work of bottoming out.
I believe Stone lands in Boston.
Duchene will be a great addition for the Islanders.
Dzingle goes to Buffalo. - spatso
Ottawa wont trade any of them within the conference
Stone to Dallas, Duchene to Anaheim and Dzingle to Minnesota |
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KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA Joined: 01.29.2010
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Not with proven core pieces signed for 6 years they don't - obie
I’m sticking with Nylander + Liljegren + brown/johsson + conditional 1st will not land both.
Will it get 1 of those players maybe. Unless a team comes up with a better offer, which I do believe will be the case.
In the end I doubt TOR makes a play for either. They need a Dman |
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spatso
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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Ottawa wont trade any of them within the conference
Stone to Dallas, Duchene to Anaheim and Dzingle to Minnesota - obie
I think that would be true in a different set of circumstances. But, Ottawa will deal with the team that offers best pick opportunity and prospects regardless of conference. They don't want bodies coming back. This is about bottoming out and being active in the 2019 draft. |
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KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA Joined: 01.29.2010
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Apparently the Sens turned down a Ceci for Taylor Hall way back when, so then the Larsson deal went down. Big time miss from the Sens. Ceci's metrics are basically the worst in the league, but Ottawa likes Ottawa people (I think they believe it improves their prospects to get team friendly deals. Massively delusional.) - Bartacus
Seriously?! Wow. Big mistake. But in the end that’s all a prospect is, a prospect that might be good some day |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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I’m sticking with Nylander + Liljegren + brown/johsson + conditional 1st will not land both.
Will it get 1 of those players maybe. Unless a team comes up with a better offer, which I do believe will be the case.
In the end I doubt TOR makes a play for either. They need a Dman - KINGS67
If you think a better offer than Nylander, Liljergen and a 1st for a rental is coming, you'll be waiting all the way to July when they leave for a smile and a handshake |
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KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA Joined: 01.29.2010
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Ottawa wont trade any of them within the conference
Stone to Dallas, Duchene to Anaheim and Dzingle to Minnesota - obie
God I hope Duchene doesn’t go to ANA |
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KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA Joined: 01.29.2010
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If you think a better offer than Nylander, Liljergen and a 1st for a rental is coming, you'll be waiting all the way to July when they leave for a smile and a handshake - obie
Good thing I’m not s Sens fan. |
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Bartacus
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 01.08.2019
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I’m sticking with Nylander + Liljegren + brown/johsson + conditional 1st will not land both.
Will it get 1 of those players maybe. Unless a team comes up with a better offer, which I do believe will be the case.
In the end I doubt TOR makes a play for either. They need a Dman - KINGS67
Agreed Leafs need D, though Dubas seems in a different paradigm on that. Unless Nylander de-Zaitsevs himself and starts PPGing ASAP, nobody will want him before the deadline, especially Ottawa. |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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I think that would be true in a different set of circumstances. But, Ottawa will deal with the team that offers best pick opportunity and prospects regardless of conference. They don't want bodies coming back. This is about bottoming out and being active in the 2019 draft. - spatso
They dealt Hoffman to SJ for a lesser return the Sharks got half hour later just so they didn't deal within the conference, dont underestimate stupid |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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Good thing I’m not s Sens fan. - KINGS67
Not the point |
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Bartacus
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 01.08.2019
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God I hope Duchene doesn’t go to ANA - KINGS67
Can't see this happening - Anaheim is like Ottawa, with a restrictive internal cap. They'd be scared to pay anybody over 7AV, which Duchene will definitely want. |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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God I hope Duchene doesn’t go to ANA - KINGS67
Why? Kings aren't really going anywhere right now anyway and Duchene will be gone next season
It would be a good thing for Kings' fans, Ducks would waste assets on a rental |
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KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA Joined: 01.29.2010
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Why? Kings aren't really going anywhere right now anyway and Duchene will be gone next season
It would be a good thing for Kings' fans, Ducks would waste assets on a rental - obie
I’m sure Ducks will find some way to sign him |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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Can't see this happening - Anaheim is like Ottawa, with a restrictive internal cap. They'd be scared to pay anybody over 7AV, which Duchene will definitely want. - Bartacus
He's a rental |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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I’m sure Ducks will find some way to sign him - KINGS67
Doubt it but who knows |
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KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA Joined: 01.29.2010
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Doubt it but who knows - obie
Then in that case I’m always for that franchise to waste picks and prospects for players that will leave them and not getting a Stanley Cup out of it |
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RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN Joined: 04.16.2016
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Doubt it but who knows - obie
Fatmarsh and eichief’s ex-wife know. |
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RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN Joined: 04.16.2016
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Then in that case I’m always for that franchise to waste picks and prospects for players that will leave them and not getting a Stanley Cup out of it - KINGS67
Who isn’t? (frank) the Ducks and their fan base. |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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Then in that case I’m always for that franchise to waste picks and prospects for players that will leave them and not getting a Stanley Cup out of it - KINGS67
And if they did sign him, they would overpay and handcuff themselves financially and again, a win for LA |
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