Peter Tessier: A Fan Put In the Crosshairs because of The Globe and Mail A fan gets a coffee break of a lifetime but ends up fighting for his credibility after the Globe and Mail uses him.

Wow...that's a lot of personal info for Noel to put out there! He should be let go

Wow...that's a lot of personal info for Noel to put out there! He should be let go
- LeftCoaster

I'd fire him. This is no way to start back up in Wpg.


"Noel also ‘thinks the fans in Winnipeg are amazing and that the players were overwhelmed by it.”

Really? The fans were too into it? Is that possible, sure, if they are booing or being sarcastic as they are in Montreal and Toronto at times, but the Winnipeg crowds were very positive. Buffalo, I think suffered because the crowds were totally flat. Ridiculous offseason expectations mixed with sub par play and the place was like a library. It definitely adversely affected the team.

You lost me at 'Peter'. Also, I would never read an article from the globe and fail.

I'd fire him. This is no way to start back up in Wpg.


"Noel also ‘thinks the fans in Winnipeg are amazing and that the players were overwhelmed by it.”

Really? The fans were too into it? Is that possible, sure, if they are booing or being sarcastic as they are in Montreal and Toronto at times, but the Winnipeg crowds were very positive. Buffalo, I think suffered because the crowds were totally flat. Ridiculous offseason expectations mixed with sub par play and the place was like a library. It definitely adversely affected the team.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Maybe he meant overwhelmed in terms of playing in front of a loud/excited packed house compared to playing in front of a couple thousand fans in Atlanta....

Maybe he meant overwhelmed in terms of playing in front of a loud/excited packed house compared to playing in front of a couple thousand fans in Atlanta....
- Fruitcakenipple

Overwhelmed in this context ^

You lost me at 'Peter'. Also, I would never read an article from the globe and fail.
- bdavis6247

Seems to me it's a story about nothing.....What exactly did he say that was really bad???

Seems to me it's a story about nothing.....What exactly did he say that was really bad???
- Fruitcakenipple

Yeah none of it seems that bad. Except maybe the comment about Jaffery.

That fan should lose his tickets if the team could survive the fallout from that after one season.

Overwhelmed in this context ^
- Bowkes

It doesn't justify. They had a great home record.

That fan should lose his tickets if the team could survive the fallout from that after one season.
- gomer300

x2

Seems to me it's a story about nothing.....What exactly did he say that was really bad???
- Fruitcakenipple

Imagine you were given an exit interview from your job and then the person doing the exit interview accidentally published their remarks and observations in a company website for all to read.

It's not that what was allegedly said was bad it's how it all came to light and is that more damaging that what was said?

I agree with the comments about Antropov. More than a few smart hockey folks have said Burmistrov would ahve benefited from more time in Junior.

Jaffrey has never stuck with any team. If the GST is a 4th line, use them as one.

If Pavelec was worn down why did you keep playing him?

Many of these thoughts are/were on many people's minds but should the inner beliefs of coach and team be available?

I don't think so and the way they were obtained and then published reflect poorly on the paper. However, one team owner owns that paper too. Go figure.

I'd fire him. This is no way to start back up in Wpg.


"Noel also ‘thinks the fans in Winnipeg are amazing and that the players were overwhelmed by it.”

Really? The fans were too into it? Is that possible, sure, if they are booing or being sarcastic as they are in Montreal and Toronto at times, but the Winnipeg crowds were very positive. Buffalo, I think suffered because the crowds were totally flat. Ridiculous offseason expectations mixed with sub par play and the place was like a library. It definitely adversely affected the team.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Pretty sure you might want to re read this portion.

Let me explain if you didn't.

He feels the fans in Winnipeg are AMAZING. The fact the players where overwhelmed might be an understatement. I don't think any player would have expected the support those players received in Winnipeg.

To Sum up.

Not a bad thing to say about the fans at all.

Seems to me it's a story about nothing.....What exactly did he say that was really bad???
- Fruitcakenipple

agreed, most of these thing were already known across the league.
-Antropov is on his third and a half team for reason.
-Ondrej Pavelec did play way too many games
-Burmistrov was rushed last year to the NHL
-“The GST line [Tanner Glass, Jim Slater and Chris Thorburn] should be a fourth line, not third.” on a contending team these guy would be the fourth line.
-Noel “felt overwhelmed the last time playing Pittsburgh...didn’t know how to match up against all of the Penguins talent.” as a rookie coach it would be overwhelming.
-* Noel also ‘thinks the fans in Winnipeg are amazing and that the players were overwhelmed by it.” that isn't an insult to the players but after playing in Atlanta ir would be overwhelming to play in front of hockey starved fans.
-Did Noel think he was doing an interview? Other than saying one player was too slow for the NHL there is nothing personal there and IMO Noel was candid and forthcoming. quite refreashing but then again he hs been that way all season.

Pretty sure you might want to re read this portion.

Let me explain if you didn't.

He feels the fans in Winnipeg are AMAZING. The fact the players where overwhelmed might be an understatement. I don't think any player would have expected the support those players received in Winnipeg.

To Sum up.

Not a bad thing to say about the fans at all.
- marty11

Pretty sure I read that clearly. Pretty sure he said something that makes absolutely no sense at all.

Noel was telling the truth.

Everything he said was dead on the problem is that he may have lost the trust of some of his players now.

Somethings stay in the room I cant see burmistrov being upset that this got out.

Not to mention the GST line who 2/3 is up for free agency

Personally, this 'fan' should have kept what he heard to himself, the fact that he'd take it to a reporter regardless of what media it is makes me question his motivation more than his credibility. For those who don't know, most "unnamed sources" that reporters use to quote are generally insiders like players, front office staff and assistant coaches and generally the teams use them to get a certain message out via the media. Generally you won't get newspaper reporters or columnists to be able to get a direct quote of this nature from a named source because if they do, that person would never work/play in the NHL again. The fact that this season ticket holder decided to do so makes me question his character and whether he values fame and money rather than the team itself. There was no reason for him to repeat this and no reason for the Globe to print it.

All I can say of Waldie's article is 'bushleague'. I'm an editor for an amateur student newspaper at Queen's, and even I know you don't use someone's 'word' as a source.

And using Duboff's statement of "I’d stake my life on every word" as a beacon of truth and credibility makes Waldie's article even more ridiculous. That's something kids say on the playground, not something a journalist uses as evidence for a column.

What a joke this is.

Personally, this 'fan' should have kept what he heard to himself, the fact that he'd take it to a reporter regardless of what media it is makes me question his motivation more than his credibility. For those who don't know, most "unnamed sources" that reporters use to quote are generally insiders like players, front office staff and assistant coaches and generally the teams use them to get a certain message out via the media. Generally you won't get newspaper reporters or columnists to be able to get a direct quote of this nature from a named source because if they do, that person would never work/play in the NHL again. The fact that this season ticket holder decided to do so makes me question his character and whether he values fame and money rather than the team itself. There was no reason for him to repeat this and no reason for the Globe to print it.
- DariusKnight

The you are jumping the gun here, what if Waldie got the info another way and almost forced the fan to have to participate? It's a tough situation and this is why the Globe erred, this guy cannot defend himself and that's wrong.

Peter Tessier: A Fan Put In the Crosshairs because of The Globe and Mail
A fan gets a coffee break of a lifetime but ends up fighting for his credibility after the Globe and Mail uses him.
- Peter.Tessier

From a journalism point of view, I'm sure there are many "no-no's" with this article. From a dedicated season ticket holder like myself, I love the way Noel will say it like it is. He said NOTHING that a knowlegable hockey person doesn't already know.
Is Jaffray a few steps behind? Yes.
Was Burmi rushed? Absolutely.
If he wants to be our 2nd line centre, he has to be better. Obviously.
Is Antropov frustrating to coach? Without question!
GST line should be a 4th line......Bingo!
Pavs played too much? Sounds like a coach criticizing himself.

I think it was "Ducky" mentioning this might hamper the re-signing of Slater and Glass. I highly doubt it, they were adored by this fanbase and they know they are a traditional fourth line.

I've been trying to read between the lines on the Burmi comment because it was also mentioned by Munz and Lawless about a possible start in St.John's next season. Are they thinking that Schieffle is a better 2nd line centre option the ways things look right now?

Something's up, I just can't quite figure it out.

The you are jumping the gun here, what if Waldie got the info another way and almost forced the fan to have to participate? It's a tough situation and this is why the Globe erred, this guy cannot defend himself and that's wrong.
- Peter.Tessier

Why would he Pete? Why else would he write down a private conversation if not to sell what he heard to someone? I'm not saying Waldie wasn't wrong for printing it as this type of stuff should said in a proper interview with both parties understanding what can and can't be quoted directly. Usually these types of quotes are heard when the coach or team is trying to get a message out to the players, media and fans, it's call PR, or spin control. This was a conversation between Noel and a season ticket holder, in a social setting, where Noel was recognized and decided to chat with a fellow hockey buff. The fact is, you have to question the motivation of Dudoff for writing down what he heard and then somehow being quoted in a major publication. Was this for money or for the fame?