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Trade Panarin.
Reason, likely the biggest return we’d get for anyone from this core. I’d target a big tough “playoff” type player to replace him, even if it’s a 50-55 pt guy but brings the other intangibles with him. Draw your own conclusions as to who I’m referring to |
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aecliptic
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Location: Stacheville Joined: 06.17.2010
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Im trading KAMiller
Trade Panarin.
Reason, likely the biggest return we’d get for anyone from this core. I’d target a big tough “playoff” type player to replace him, even if it’s a 50-55 pt guy but brings the other intangibles with him. Draw your own conclusions as to who I’m referring to - nyrangers9479
In response to this, I would do a trade of..
Schneider, Othmann and a 2nd for Byram and Tuch
Tuch would be that big tough playoff type guy.
Also, signing Dumoulin would be getting a big tough veteran D man who knows Sully. |
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Im trading KAMiller
In response to this, I would do a trade of..
Schneider, Othmann and a 2nd for Byram and Tuch
Tuch would be that big tough playoff type guy.
Also, signing Dumoulin would be getting a big tough veteran D man who knows Sully. - aecliptic
From the blog: "With this also needs to be salient rationale as to why this is the player you have selected and what gap is created by this player's absence"
Please add in this piece. |
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Trade Panarin.
Reason, likely the biggest return we’d get for anyone from this core. I’d target a big tough “playoff” type player to replace him, even if it’s a 50-55 pt guy but brings the other intangibles with him. Draw your own conclusions as to who I’m referring to - nyrangers9479
"With this also needs to be salient rationale as to why this is the player you have selected and what gap is created by this player's absence"
Add in the above in the analysis |
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From the blog: "With this also needs to be salient rationale as to why this is the player you have selected and what gap is created by this player's absence"
Please add in this piece. - airjan23
Reason being, IMO Byram is better than Miller. Miller has potential but its just crazy seeing him make the same mistakes year after year and I dont think he deserves the extension he will likely command. Byram will add elite skating and a secondary source of scoring from the defense. |
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"With this also needs to be salient rationale as to why this is the player you have selected and what gap is created by this player's absence"
Add in the above in the analysis - airjan23
Panarin is a top 20ish player in the league, c but one of the main reasons we have an East West identity. Will we score less goals? Possibly. But not nearly as many as some might think. I think we’d become a better team by adding a different type of player to fill his spot as well as have more cap space to make the roster deeper, especially with Igor’s contract kicking in next season.
A good bottom 6 is just as important as a good top 6, when our 3C options are Carrick and Parsenen, we need to address that. |
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Panarin is a top 20ish player in the league, c but one of the main reasons we have an East West identity. Will we score less goals? Possibly. But not nearly as many as some might think. I think we’d become a better team by adding a different type of player to fill his spot as well as have more cap space to make the roster deeper, especially with Igor’s contract kicking in next season.
A good bottom 6 is just as important as a good top 6, when our 3C options are Carrick and Parsenen, we need to address that. - nyrangers9479
Im curious if Sully runs a 3C setup with Miller, Zib, Trocheck like he had in PIT with Crosby, Malkin, Staal. I feel like, its the right thing to do in terms of making three line depth. |
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My vote is Panarin. Did anyone see the “great 8” last night on Carolina’ game winning goal? Lolly gagged back. No care to play defense. No care to backcheck. Same with Panarin. Scores some tremendous goals, but as soon as the checking gets tight, here comes the coast to the boards and cross ice passes. As much as I want Mika gone, there’s more of a chance of him returning to the 2 way player he was. Panarin, if you can convince him to go, and you can find a trade partner with cap space, gets more in return. |
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BINGO!
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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If i can only move one this year it's Artemi Panarin.
Look, the Rangers are currently in a spot where they have too much money tied up in a group of forwards that is rapidly starting to show it's age. They need young pieces and a lot of them.
Artemi Panarin, with two years left on his contract and still a point per game player, can get you that.
Think about it: You gain a bunch of assets to help long term, you open up space for desperately needed depth help in the short term, and you give the now 24 year old Lafreniere an honest-to-god shot at proving he's something greater than just a solid 2nd line player.
Now you probably aren't signing Boeser with that cap space, but you could sign, say, Kuzmenko and Gavrikov. I'd also move Zib to the wing in this scenario to take some defensive responsibilities off his plate and let him focus on getting the puck to the net.
Think about it:
Lafreniere - Miller - Zibanejad
Cuylle - Trocheck - Kuzmenko
Kreider - Brodzinski - Perrault
Berard - Edstrom - Armia (?)
Gavrikov - Fox
Miller - Borgen
Soucy - Schneider
you aren't winning any trophies with it, but maybe you can bump up the value of some of your vets to the point where you can continue to recoup assets on the fly and build something better quickly.
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If i can only move one this year it's Artemi Panarin.
Look, the Rangers are currently in a spot where they have too much money tied up in a group of forwards that is rapidly starting to show it's age. They need young pieces and a lot of them.
Artemi Panarin, with two years left on his contract and still a point per game player, can get you that.
Think about it: You gain a bunch of assets to help long term, you open up space for desperately needed depth help in the short term, and you give the now 24 year old Lafreniere an honest-to-god shot at proving he's something greater than just a solid 2nd line player.
Now you probably aren't signing Boeser with that cap space, but you could sign, say, Kuzmenko and Gavrikov. I'd also move Zib to the wing in this scenario to take some defensive responsibilities off his plate and let him focus on getting the puck to the net.
Think about it:
Lafreniere - Miller - Zibanejad
Cuylle - Trocheck - Kuzmenko
Kreider - Brodzinski - Perrault
Berard - Edstrom - Armia (?)
Gavrikov - Fox
Miller - Borgen
Soucy - Schneider
you aren't winning any trophies with it, but maybe you can bump up the value of some of your vets to the point where you can continue to recoup assets on the fly and build something better quickly. - BINGO!
Im not signing Kuzmenko, thats a cheap version of Panarin. Id rather just bump up Perreault. Perreault is not a 3rd line player. |
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Im curious if Sully runs a 3C setup with Miller, Zib, Trocheck like he had in PIT with Crosby, Malkin, Staal. I feel like, its the right thing to do in terms of making three line depth. - aecliptic
Jordan Staal was gone from Pittsburgh three years before Sullivan became the coach there.
Jim Rutherford gave him Phil Kessel. |
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Im not signing Kuzmenko, thats a cheap version of Panarin. Id rather just bump up Perreault. Perreault is not a 3rd line player. - aecliptic
They would flip eventually. The point is to let Perrault get his feet wet before forcing him to lose games while playing 18 minutes a night. |
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They would flip eventually. The point is to let Perrault get his feet wet before forcing him to lose games while playing 18 minutes a night. - BINGO!
Like Perrault is basically in the same spot next year that Jackson Blake was to start this season, and the Canes made Blake spend 3/4's of the year on the 3rd or 4th line. |
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Like Perrault is basically in the same spot next year that Jackson Blake was to start this season, and the Canes made Blake spend 3/4's of the year on the 3rd or 4th line. - BINGO!
Blake seems to have some grit to him though, Im not sure Gabe is that guy. However Berard, definitely is that guy. IMO Id play Gabe with Miller. |
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Location: Stacheville Joined: 06.17.2010
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The lines if i had to realistically do it based on what im thinking is…
Cuylle, Miller, LAF
Panarin, Trocheck, Tuch
Kreider, Zib, Berard
Edstrom, Carrick, Rempe
Dumoulin, Fox
Byram, Kesselring
______, Borgen
PP Lines..
Zib, Kreider, Fox, Panarin, Trocheck
Miller, Cuylle, Byram, Tuch, LAF |
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Jordan Staal was gone from Pittsburgh three years before Sullivan became the coach there.
Jim Rutherford gave him Phil Kessel. - BINGO!
He was? Hah, I feel like he was there a lot longer than he actually was.
But that Hagelin, Bonino, Kessel line was an absolute killer in the playoffs. One of those lines that on paper makes absolutely no sense, but it worked… well. |
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I would say Panarin because of his trade value but he only has next year left and I think he gets moved at the TDL anyway so my answer is Igor.
I’m looking at this question as a “compliance buyout” to a certain degree and I absolutely hate his contract. I’d obviously be looking to get a younger blue chip prospect goalie back in the trade and we also have Garand waiting in the wings too. He’ll be 30 next season when his 8 year contact starts. That’s brutal. |
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Take your pick, so many choices.
But if I’m being realistic it’s K Miller. He’s not a NHL defenseman, terrible reads, awful giveaways in the D zone.
However, if you’re telling me he’s moving to the wing, I would keep him and watch him blossom using his speed and nose for the net. It’s so obvious. |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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Jordan Staal was gone from Pittsburgh three years before Sullivan became the coach there.
Jim Rutherford gave him Phil Kessel. - BINGO!
Right. Phil Kessel played with Bonino on the 3rd line. Rutherford's first few years were magical. Was mostly sideways after that. |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 03.01.2018
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Solely from a hockey perspective it has to be Mika for me. Assuming NMC don’t exist. Is he an $8.5m 3c? Is he a top 6 RW? Hes a luxury (very loosely used here) that we cannot afford. He was so bad and so disinterested for such a large portion of last season in such a frustrating way that he’s just gotta go. I really don’t feel like a gap is even created by getting rid of him. Addition by subtraction. A fraction of his cap hit can be used on a 3c. Sorry if that’s just not enough of a rationale but it’s all I got
But really Panarin should go because of reasons I won’t go back into, again |
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Rangers should sign Deuce McBride. That guy has balls |
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Rangers should sign Deuce McBride. That guy has balls - Slimtj100
They better keep up this effort and cruise to the W. No more grinding it out til the final whistle |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 03.01.2018
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What a big time game for the Knicks |
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My first Puckpedia
Cuylle (4.5 AAV x 2) - Miller - Zib
Panarin - Trocheck - Laf
Othmann - Parssinen - Berard
Edstrom (1M x 2) - Carrick - Rempe (1M x 2)
JBrod
McDonagh - Schneider
Matheson - Fox
Robertson (1M x 2) - Borgen
Vaaks
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I chose Kreider.
Rationale- Unfortunately the end of another era without a cup. He has to be pushed out no matter how you slice it. These kids need his spot in the top 9, wherever he would be. Othmann, Berard and Perrault are the future, and it needs to start now imo
- Get Ryan McDonagh. The next captain of the NYR. Righting a wrong, along with JT Miller, in arguably the worst trade this team has ever made
Kandre Miller and Arthur Kaliyev for Issac Howard and Ryan McDonagh tb need to get younger and Howard isn’t signing. Rangers sign Howard obv, and sent to Hartford
- Matheson for Kreider. Idk I feel like Kreider would love to play in Mtl, or TB for McDonagh
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