Jeremy Laura: Seider contract discussed, ESPN and Bally update

Great article. Really appreciate the work you do digging through the adrenaline inducing, excitement sparking details of cable negotiations that are to awesome what being the best restaurant in a hospital must feel like. So much appreciate you biting that bullet and deducing things again and again.

Re: Seider, Moritz. If Stevie Y can lock him down at 8yrs/$8.85aav/$70.8M then you do it, 100%.
It sees Seider do right by the union for putting another deal above that Pietrangelo number (UFA vs RFA I know, but water marks are water marks); it holds court for the Front Office for not going over Makar or Fox’s number which realistically, to this point, based on achievement, they have absolutely ZERO reason to do; and it gives Mo a nice round number to work with that should again show him the faith they have in him and the organizational commitment to winning while also encouraging those coming up to not set their own glass ceilings at that of Dylan Larkin: be better and you will get paid, even if it means going over Dylan’s number. This is big as the death of an era is a high risk when guys feel like there isn’t much reason or reward in a world where they’re above a PPG; it’s always easier to fall in line and in order than to go all Federov on the situation and try and outgrow your slot.
Maybe a bad example lol, but ya catch my point I’m sure.

In this new nhl, I would suggest actually a 5 year deal. Max term deals are nice for clubs to lock in lower cap hit as cap goes up. It's going to go up drastically compared to previous years for sure in the next few. But a better arrangement between club and player is 4-5 years.

Let Sieder continue his play. Give him more $ less term. If he meets or exceeds expectations, give him another 4-5 year term at higher value.

Right now, maybe 4-5 years at something McAvoy is getting between 9-9.5. give him a taste of big money. If it's worth it, sign him again. If not, trade him when he is young enough to acquire some assets. Thoughts?

In this new nhl, I would suggest actually a 5 year deal. Max term deals are nice for clubs to lock in lower cap hit as cap goes up. It's going to go up drastically compared to previous years for sure in the next few. But a better arrangement between club and player is 4-5 years.

Let Sieder continue his play. Give him more $ less term. If he meets or exceeds expectations, give him another 4-5 year term at higher value.

Right now, maybe 4-5 years at something McAvoy is getting between 9-9.5. give him a taste of big money. If it's worth it, sign him again. If not, trade him when he is young enough to acquire some assets. Thoughts?
- dothedougie

One quick counterpoint. The cap is signaling stagnation. The 4-5 million boost announced pre season won’t happen. Gary did the same forecast the year before. The cap is going to stay flat until significant new $ comes in. Winnipeg wasn’t expected to have their issues, AZ still doesn’t have clearance on a new building so they max at 5k. They’re losing Bally (already lost 20% of that deal before the season). If they can get max term I would go for it. Seider just tied Lidstrom as 2nd fastest Dman to 90 points in Wings history. If players are paying 20% escrow now, they will have to pay more for a cap increase without an influx of revenue the exceeds inflationary trends. They voted that down.

If it is a flat cap again the big clubs will whine until they get a luxury tax so they can spend over the limit. You just wait and see!

Max contract term for Seider for sure. Locking him up for all his prime years is much better than having to give him big money until he will be out of his prime later on or lose him.

Raymond you go bridge deal because you don't really know if he will ever be a star player and someone that can make other players better or drive a line.

One quick counterpoint. The cap is signaling stagnation. The 4-5 million boost announced pre season won’t happen. Gary did the same forecast the year before. The cap is going to stay flat until significant new $ comes in. Winnipeg wasn’t expected to have their issues, AZ still doesn’t have clearance on a new building so they max at 5k. They’re losing Bally (already lost 20% of that deal before the season). If they can get max term I would go for it. Seider just tied Lidstrom as 2nd fastest Dman to 90 points in Wings history. If players are paying 20% escrow now, they will have to pay more for a cap increase without an influx of revenue the exceeds inflationary trends. They voted that down.
- Jeremy Laura

Ahh I gotcha. Thanks for the info. Definitely didnt know the cap was going to be less than announced. I suppose though I haven't really been paying attention to it either.

Jake Sanderson kind of screwed Detroit on the Seider market.

If it is a flat cap again the big clubs will whine until they get a luxury tax so they can spend over the limit. You just wait and see!
- HenryHockey

I’m for a caveat - if you want to spend over the cap, you can spend x amount (say 6-8 million) but your club is not qualified to receive escrow from players. Remove any teams losses from the calculations (but keep any gains if applicable) and then see how many teams step up. That escrow cushion emboldens GMs to spend beyond their production, we can then see if any would take it on the chin to keep the band together

I’m for a caveat - if you want to spend over the cap, you can spend x amount (say 6-8 million) but your club is not qualified to receive escrow from players. Remove any teams losses from the calculations (but keep any gains if applicable) and then see how many teams step up. That escrow cushion emboldens GMs to spend beyond their production, we can then see if any would take it on the chin to keep the band together
- Jeremy Laura

I could see several teams agreeing to that. For every $1M over you forfeit 20% of that escrow payment and only be able to go $5M over(beyond LTIR) . I imagine that would be rater costly!